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N.C. illegal immigrant allowed to retrieve buried savings
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Posted on 07/20/2005 10:56:08 PM PDT by Happy2BMe

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To: staytrue

EEEsh, you're right! That, with the indignities our racist society has laid upon him, and the mistrust he endured from our capitalists, has surely earned him a visit from the ACLU.


21 posted on 07/20/2005 11:21:23 PM PDT by digger48
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To: staytrue; Razz Barry
"He (Charles Manson) was doing a job even illegals refused to do."

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Have you any idea how large the prison populations are with illegal aliens in at least seven of the border states with Mexico?

22 posted on 07/20/2005 11:28:47 PM PDT by Happy2BMe (Viva La MIGRA - LONG LIVE THE BORDER PATROL!)
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To: Happy2BMe; PhilDragoo; MeekOneGOP; potlatch; ntnychik; Smartass; Travis McGee; DoughtyOne

$7.25 an hour

X

40 hours

= $290.00

He said "Who will pay me $500 a week in Mexico?"


He did not pay income taxes

Even under taxable minimums - Medicare - & all the many other payroll deductions were not paid as per federal and state stautes

A 16 year old son here?

He had a wife or girl friend working off the books too

If he declared a minimum income - the Earned Income Credit would get him back $4000-$5000 cash from the IRS every year - while he hid the rest of his income

Mexicans have manuals, Mexican groups, churches that tell them all of these tricks

One trick is to declare minimum income under two different names and get two EIC checks fromm the IRS

Just like the Islamic imans in England - one article said they paid him 300 pounds a week + all or his rent on a house for over 17 years - while he made speeches about killing Christians and Jews and taking over England -

The English Parliament seems to be waking up now finally - The Home Secretary has revised the rules for coming into the UK and deporting scumbags




23 posted on 07/20/2005 11:37:40 PM PDT by devolve (------- http://tinypic.com/90w1kw.gif - http://tinypic.com/95tt3l.gif)
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To: staytrue
This is the kind of immigrant we need. Hard working and saving. Why the hell have the native born stopped doing this ?

Illegal alien lawbreakers are not the kind of "immigrants" that we need, whether they're hard working or not. Why do you have a soft spot in your heart for foreign lawbreakers? By the way, the native born haven't stopped doing this. I have no idea where you got that crazy notion.

24 posted on 07/20/2005 11:38:34 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: SwinneySwitch; HiJinx; Happy2BMe
Chavez, 66, has lived in the United States off and on since 1970, when he crossed the Rio Grande River in search of work.

Border ping

25 posted on 07/20/2005 11:40:51 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: judgeandjury
Illegal alien lawbreakers are not the kind of "immigrants" that we need, whether they're hard working or not.

And lawbreaking natives should be gotten rid of, too.

Let's start with you. You have broken the speed limit, right?

Damn lawbreaker.

26 posted on 07/20/2005 11:42:14 PM PDT by mc6809e
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To: staytrue

"So, can the money gained as the result of a crime now be kept by the criminal?"

Sure, if you're a U.S. citizen.

Sorry. What I should have said was, Sure, but not if you're a U.S. citizen.

It's 2:30 am here. When you get to the point you make stupid mistakes like that, it's time to go to bed.


27 posted on 07/20/2005 11:43:08 PM PDT by Razz Barry
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To: staytrue
"This is the kind of immigrant we need. Hard working and saving. Why the hell have the native born stopped doing this ?"

He may be the kind of legal immigrant we need but he doesn't deserve any of that money he made here illegally. I doubt if I went to another country illegally and made money that I would get to keep it once their government found out.

We do need a better legal immigration policy. Right now we let in some of the most worthless people on earth while refusing to let in people who may actually contribute to society instead of taking from it. But I doubt we will reform our immigration policy when we won't even try to solve our illegal immigration policy in an effective way.
28 posted on 07/20/2005 11:43:10 PM PDT by ThermoNuclearWarrior (PRESSURE BUSH TO CLOSE THE BORDERS!!!)
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To: Happy2BMe

I wonder if he was taxed...


29 posted on 07/20/2005 11:47:04 PM PDT by in the Arena (CAPT (USAF) James Wayne Herrick, Jr. (Call Sign: FireFly33). MIA Laos 27 Oct 69)
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To: mc6809e
And lawbreaking natives should be gotten rid of, too.

Let's start with you. You have broken the speed limit, right?

Damn lawbreaker.

LOL! An American citizen can't be deported from the United States, but then you already knew that.

So, do you support illegal immigration or are you opposed to illegal immigration?

30 posted on 07/20/2005 11:54:46 PM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: Happy2BMe
[Chavez, 66, has lived in the United States off and on since 1970, when he crossed the Rio Grande River in search of work. He came to North Carolina seven years ago and got a job with a private construction company after doing farm work and construction in California, Texas, Florida and Kentucky. ...Chavez never earned more than $7.25 an hour but was able to save, thanks to his thriftiness and stamina for long work weeks.]




Perhaps we should CHANGE our immigration laws so that this type of person can walk in the front door and get a job LEGALLY (and pay taxes) and then within a year or two become a citizen and then we wouldn't need to be deporting hard working and self supporting individuals like Mr. Cristobal Chavez Torres.
31 posted on 07/21/2005 12:03:40 AM PDT by spinestein ( "Gentlemen! We've got to do something to save our phoney baloney jobs!" - Gov LePetomaine)
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To: spinestein
Perhaps we should CHANGE our immigration laws so that this type of person can walk in the front door and get a job LEGALLY (and pay taxes) and then within a year or two become a citizen and then we wouldn't need to be deporting hard working and self supporting individuals like Mr. Cristobal Chavez Torres.

We already have immigration laws in place that allow exactly what you described. Millions of foreigners have come to the United States legally over the last 40 years by using these laws. Millions more foreigners around the world have filed their paperwork and are patiently waiting for their turn to come to the United States legally. Unfortunately, Mr. Torres didn't wait for his turn to come here legally and instead made the decision to illegally cross over our border.

32 posted on 07/21/2005 12:14:06 AM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: judgeandjury
[Millions more foreigners around the world have filed their paperwork and are patiently waiting for their turn to come to the United States legally.]



The problem is the bureaucracy that acts as an impediment to legal immigration and legal working status. To say that legal immigrants today are patiently waiting is an understatement of comical extent.

The unhealthy situation now exists where more than a million people per year want to come here and work but less than half of them will be legally accepted for residency because of federal quotas and even fewer than that will be allowed to work also because of restrictive quotas.

I don't pretend that there is an easy fix to this, but the reality is that when there are millions of people living just outside our border with their noses up against the glass looking in and seeing the high standard of living we enjoy while their personal situation is genuine poverty, there is going to be a tidal wave of humanity crossing the border and this is exactly what we have.

The only way to stop it is to violently repress it, and like most Americans, I could never support such action as to harm people who want nothing more than to work to support themselves and their families.

The only alternative is to accommodate it either legally or by looking the other way to illegality, and unfortunately the U.S. has chosen the second option with all the negative consequences of having laws on the books that we expect many people to violate and which we have no will to enforce.
33 posted on 07/21/2005 12:44:14 AM PDT by spinestein ( "Gentlemen! We've got to do something to save our phoney baloney jobs!" - Gov LePetomaine)
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To: spinestein
The unhealthy situation now exists where more than a million people per year want to come here and work but less than half of them will be legally accepted for residency because of federal quotas and even fewer than that will be allowed to work also because of restrictive quotas.

I think the American public would be much more willing to open up the gates for these people if we could shut out the blatant gatecrashers. There's a pesky little thing vital to our integrity called a BORDER, ya know. It means the place where it stops being the US and starts being the rest of the world.

34 posted on 07/21/2005 12:47:55 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: digger48

Tax him? Hell, let's RICO him.


35 posted on 07/21/2005 12:52:45 AM PDT by nygoose
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To: spinestein

Thanks for the comments in your post #33. I pretty much agree with everything that you said. Our current immigration laws and the bureaucracy whose job it is to enforce them are in a state of disarray, but hopefully these laws will be reformed and streamlined sometime in the near future.


36 posted on 07/21/2005 12:56:23 AM PDT by judgeandjury
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To: judgeandjury

Is there any other country in this world whose borders are such a joke?


37 posted on 07/21/2005 12:57:42 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (No wonder the Southern Baptist Church threw Greer out: Only one god per church! [Ann Coulter])
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To: flashbunny

Only if they are in the country illegally!


38 posted on 07/21/2005 1:11:25 AM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: csvset

Nope, no trouble at all.

Our Gov. Org. would just confiscate it all, alleging a "drug nexus" without any other evidence beyond the money's existence.
No trial, no conviction, just "asset forfeiture".

If you don't like it, you have to POST A BOND in order to file an appeal to get your money back!

Fourth amendment? State and Fed. "Law Enforcement" don't need to honor no steenk'in fourth amendment!

It sure seems the smart bet is to be an illegal these days, they get "rights" the rest of us can only dream of.


39 posted on 07/21/2005 1:18:06 AM PDT by Richard-SIA ("The natural progress of things is for government to gain ground and for liberty to yield" JEFFERSON)
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To: staytrue

Well, the story doesn't provide any information as to what services and such that this guy used while he was here, "saving." If you aren't paying a great deal to support yourself, you can "save" a higher percentage of earnings.


40 posted on 07/21/2005 1:29:49 AM PDT by BIRDS
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