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Apple passes Lenovo (IBM) in U.S. computer sales
International Herald Tribune/Bloomberg News ^ | July 19, 2005

Posted on 07/19/2005 10:51:08 AM PDT by HAL9000

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SAN FRANCISCO - Apple Computer moved up a notch to become the No.4 seller of personal computers in the United States in the second quarter as Macintosh sales soared by one-third, according to two reports. Lenovo, the Chinese company that owns the IBM personal computer brand, lost share.

Apple won 4.5 percent of the market to trail Dell, Hewlett-Packard and Gateway, the market research company IDC said Monday in a report. IDC's rival Gartner put Apple's share at 4.3 percent.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; computer; computers; dell; gateway; hp; ibm; lenovo; mac; pc
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To: HAL9000
If you added up the number of worms, viruses and spyware on all of the Macs that Apple has ever sold, it would not come close the the number that have infected one average Windows computer.

Worms, viruses, and spyware are nto written for computers or browsers with insignificant market share.
21 posted on 07/19/2005 12:41:01 PM PDT by adorno (The democrats are the best recruiting tool the terrorists could ever have.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
"Well, considering just how many PC users are having major problems, it would appear that a majority of them are laboring through life with less than half a brain."

Probably true for those individuals, but PCs are still selling to the overwhelming majority of consumers. And that is what is called successful business.

22 posted on 07/19/2005 12:42:59 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: Goldsborough

You can argue "competitive advantage" when you get near the sales percentages of the PC. Right now, superior or not, the Apple just doesn't sell like the PC. Ever wonder why so many more people prefer the PC, foibles and all?


23 posted on 07/19/2005 12:45:34 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: newgeezer
Apple won 4.5 percent of the market

Wow, that's SERIESLY HUGH.

Look out, Windoze. Here comes the mightly Apple juggernaut!!!


Apple's market share may be low now, but with the changeover to Intel brains, won't the market share be going up once people start viewing them as compatiible with other Intel based systems, even if on different OSes?
24 posted on 07/19/2005 12:48:14 PM PDT by adorno (The democrats are the best recruiting tool the terrorists could ever have.)
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To: RS

"and the amount of brain power required to keep a Mac from acquiring spyware is ... ? LOL"

Next to none. And you think that is negative? LOL.


25 posted on 07/19/2005 12:59:03 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: TommyDale

"Ever wonder why so many more people prefer the PC, foibles and all?"

Because, historically speaking, it's been regarded as cheaper at purchase.


26 posted on 07/19/2005 1:00:13 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: RS

"I wonder what the balance sheets would look like without the IPod cash cow ?"

Apple has been sitting on billions in cash for quite some time. The iPod was a nice breakthrough into consumer electronics, and has certainly been a positive. But the business was hardly failing prior to that.


27 posted on 07/19/2005 1:02:49 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: Theo
You guys use what you want, and as a Mac-using software developer, audio/video editor, and website developer, I'll continue having the competitive advantage over you.

Indeed. I'm doing freelance work on a project where I develop the Mac version and another guy does the Windows version. It's amazing the hoops he has to jump through to get functionality that's free or trivial to add on OS X.

28 posted on 07/19/2005 1:09:26 PM PDT by ThinkDifferent (These pretzels are making me thirsty)
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To: ThinkDifferent

" It's amazing the hoops he has to jump through to get functionality that's free or trivial to add on OS X."

What will he do when they go to the Intel platform ? Will the older Mac software run on OS X running on Intel ?


29 posted on 07/19/2005 1:25:08 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: TommyDale
Competitive advantage? LOL!

Not wise to laugh at others. I didn't say not nice, I said not wise.

Look at the pricing structures, the software availability, the parts availability.

Doesn't that say something about the quality and usability? Lot's of people pay more for it. Why? I have never wanted a software package I couldn't find for a Mac. I don't know about parts as I have never had to replace anything. I have no problem finding ram, disks, monitors, printers, etc.

To each his own... and as far as the infecting, no one considers Apple to be a target because there aren't enough to make it worth their effort.

Who cares? Please explain to me how viruses, et al, are "worth someone's effort"? I suppose some excellent stores don't get vandalized either, not worth the effort.

As for keeping a PC clean, anyone with half a brain can prevent that.

Lot's of no brainers begging for help even here of FR.

30 posted on 07/19/2005 1:26:18 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: All

"Apple (Nasdaq: AAPL) has released two security fixes for bugs in its OS X operating system.

The first patch plugs a hole that could be exploited to allow hackers to crash a system by sending a specially crafted data packet."

http://www.macnewsworld.com/story/44651.html


Security problems ?


31 posted on 07/19/2005 1:27:13 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: RS
It only affects the last 10.4 version of OS X and will not harm computers that sit behind a firewall or are otherwise protected through packet filtering, Apple said on its Web site.

Sounds like a pretty minor problem affecting only a few users, if any. Not like the daily security alarms and patches for each MS release of almost anything.

32 posted on 07/19/2005 1:36:06 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: RS

"Security problems ?"

Oooooh... you found one, LOL. Now, would you care to post all the security problems extant within any current OS from Microsoft?


33 posted on 07/19/2005 1:41:47 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: RegulatorCountry

DING! DING! DING! DING! We have a winner! All that nonsense about who is "competitive" is really decided by purchase price.


34 posted on 07/19/2005 1:45:30 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale

Especially when it's written out to correspond with the Chinese characters: Le Ngo Bo - LOL!


35 posted on 07/19/2005 1:46:29 PM PDT by GOP_1900AD (Stomping on "PC," destroying the Left, and smoking out faux "conservatives" - Take Back The GOP!)
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To: Mind-numbed Robot

"Sounds like a pretty minor problem affecting only a few users, if any."

I did get a kick that it dosen't affect computers that are protected by something else ... duh

From the link - The update moves OS X 10.4 to version 10.4.2 and marks the third security update for the operating system since its release in April.

Just surprised that they found any - I believe we were told a while back that there was no way to effect a Mac. Wonder what will happen when they start using Intel chips ?


36 posted on 07/19/2005 1:48:14 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: RS
I believe if you added up the number of machines Apple has EVER sold it does not come close to the figure of PC's sold last quarter alone ...

The same could be said about Lexus or BMW. They don't sell that many cars, but market share isn't really their niche -- quality and luxury are their niche. I think the same can be said about Apple. The specs on their machines (clockspeed, etc) are not impressive, but Apple is widely admired for clean design and good build quality.

37 posted on 07/19/2005 1:50:25 PM PDT by megatherium
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To: Mind-numbed Robot
"I don't know about parts as I have never had to replace anything. I have no problem finding ram, disks, monitors, printers, etc."

Upgrades are a big reason to own a PC. You can keep updating them and stay on top of technology much cheaper than replacing the entire computer, and they are user friendly hardware. Apple has always been somewhat "proprietary" to keep you from servicing your own system.

Regarding parts, I had to replace a CD-ROM Drive in a friend's old Apple and the cost for replacing the SCSI version is extremely high, compared to ATAPI drives.

38 posted on 07/19/2005 2:14:12 PM PDT by TommyDale
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To: TommyDale

"All that nonsense about who is "competitive" is really decided by purchase price."

"Competitive" has a variety of meanings, depending upon context. If you're talking perception of affordability, I'll grant you that. Lowest actual cost of ownership, I'd give the nod to Apple. Ease of use, Apple. Productivity, Apple. Highest frustration level, Microsoft. Worst security problems, Microsoft.


39 posted on 07/19/2005 2:14:49 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: TommyDale
Upgrades are a big reason to own a PC.

I own and use both and with that I will agree. However, the design of the Mac for the last few years has made the inside easily accessible.

40 posted on 07/19/2005 2:24:27 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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