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Apple passes Lenovo (IBM) in U.S. computer sales
International Herald Tribune/Bloomberg News ^ | July 19, 2005

Posted on 07/19/2005 10:51:08 AM PDT by HAL9000

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SAN FRANCISCO - Apple Computer moved up a notch to become the No.4 seller of personal computers in the United States in the second quarter as Macintosh sales soared by one-third, according to two reports. Lenovo, the Chinese company that owns the IBM personal computer brand, lost share.

Apple won 4.5 percent of the market to trail Dell, Hewlett-Packard and Gateway, the market research company IDC said Monday in a report. IDC's rival Gartner put Apple's share at 4.3 percent.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; Technical
KEYWORDS: apple; computer; computers; dell; gateway; hp; ibm; lenovo; mac; pc
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1 posted on 07/19/2005 10:51:14 AM PDT by HAL9000
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To: HAL9000

Yeah, I just can't get all that excited about a company named Lenovo.


2 posted on 07/19/2005 10:56:23 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: HAL9000

4.5 percent? It doesn't appear that many people are very excited about Apple either!


3 posted on 07/19/2005 10:57:14 AM PDT by TommyDale
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Apple won 4.5 percent of the market

Wow, that's SERIESLY HUGH.

Look out, Windoze. Here comes the mightly Apple juggernaut!!! </sarcasm>

4 posted on 07/19/2005 10:59:25 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary.)
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To: HAL9000

Hmm, I'm not sure that's anything to brag about. I have worked in several large corporate IT environments and I'm not sure I've ever seen an IBM desktop.

Laoptops and servers, however, are all over the place.


5 posted on 07/19/2005 11:00:18 AM PDT by L98Fiero
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To: L98Fiero
I was once a big high thinkpad buyer (personal and corp.) I do not like their line up now though: pricey and not cutting edge enough. Could be that they have not put out their best stuff yet. Do you see any trend here in your workplace.

They make great servers, but that is not a part of the ChiCom deal.

Just curious.

You know I was pricing out the upperend of the "T" series for Thinkpads last niht and I was not all that impressed by the bang for the buck.

6 posted on 07/19/2005 11:06:06 AM PDT by CasearianDaoist
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To: L98Fiero
"I have worked in several large corporate IT environments and I'm not sure I've ever seen an IBM desktop."

I have. It was a 20MB, dual floppy unit. Had an IBM logo on it!

7 posted on 07/19/2005 11:18:55 AM PDT by TommyDale
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To: newgeezer

"Look out, Windoze. Here comes the mightly Apple juggernaut!!! "

I believe if you added up the number of machines Apple has EVER sold it does not come close to the figure of PC's sold last quarter alone ...


8 posted on 07/19/2005 11:32:01 AM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: TommyDale

"I have. It was a 20MB, dual floppy unit. Had an IBM logo on it!"

Had an IBM portable, with a CRT.


9 posted on 07/19/2005 11:33:42 AM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: HAL9000
As a confirmed UNIX goon and user of Intel products for over a decade, I have to admit that the new Mac Minis are quite a nice product. I bought one and have been putting it through the rigors and I not only like its performance, but its silence and compactness.

This little beastie fits right on top of one of my bookends. And, as shown above, it's scarcely larger than a double-CD jewel case.

In spite of that, it holds a 10/100 NIC, 56K modem, DVI/VGA converter, 2 USB-2 slots and 1 firewire slot, plus a CD-RW/DVD-RW, 80 GB HD and 512 MB RAM.

The whole thing only set me back around $500. That makes it pretty competitive with the PC market.

10 posted on 07/19/2005 11:34:47 AM PDT by Prime Choice (Embrace all who seek the truth. Beware all who find it.)
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To: RS
>I believe if you added up the number of machines Apple has EVER sold it does not come close to the figure of PC's sold last quarter alone ...




"You laughing at me?
Hell, I'm laughing all the way
to the bank, sucker!"

11 posted on 07/19/2005 11:35:44 AM PDT by theFIRMbss
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To: RS

If you added up the number of worms, viruses and spyware on all of the Macs that Apple has ever sold, it would not come close the the number that have infected one average Windows computer.


12 posted on 07/19/2005 11:38:37 AM PDT by HAL9000 (Get a Mac - The Ultimate FReeping Machine)
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To: L98Fiero

My company, a major worldwide company has used IBM past 3 years. We will be migrating to Dell later this year, though


13 posted on 07/19/2005 11:42:12 AM PDT by packrat35 (reality is for people who can't face science fiction)
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To: TommyDale; newgeezer; RS

From http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/5933/

"Macintosh software comprises over 18% of all software sold, according to the Software and Information Industry Association. In addition, the Software Publishers Association (SPA) estimates that 16 percent of computer users are on Macs."

In other words, while the actual sales of Macs is pretty low (a bit over 4 percent), those actually using Macs (for a number of reasons) is quite a bit higher.

And that's all I have to say about that. You guys use what you want, and as a Mac-using software developer, audio/video editor, and website developer, I'll continue having the competitive advantage over you.


14 posted on 07/19/2005 11:49:42 AM PDT by Theo
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To: Theo

Competitive advantage? LOL! Look at the pricing structures, the software availability, the parts availability. To each his own... and as far as the infecting, no one considers Apple to be a target because there aren't enough to make it worth their effort. As for keeping a PC clean, anyone with half a brain can prevent that.


15 posted on 07/19/2005 11:57:51 AM PDT by TommyDale
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"As for keeping a PC clean, anyone with half a brain can prevent that."

Well, considering just how many PC users are having major problems, it would appear that a majority of them are laboring through life with less than half a brain.


16 posted on 07/19/2005 12:17:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry (Esse Quam Videre)
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To: TommyDale

I'd say, yep, competitive advantage. Apples rarely break, so spare parts is largely a boogeyman. Most of the difference in "software availability" is for non-productivity software such as games and card making programs and other dreck. No Apple-centric network requires an IT manager as long as no Windoze machines are hooked into it. A Mac remains very useable for up to a decade or more after installation in my own experience.


17 posted on 07/19/2005 12:22:13 PM PDT by Goldsborough (Non Sibi)
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To: Theo

"From h ttp://macdailynews.com..."


LOL
Do you gather your political statistics from DU ?


18 posted on 07/19/2005 12:26:41 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

"Well, considering just how many PC users are having major problems, it would appear that a majority of them are laboring through life with less than half a brain."

... and the amount of brain power required to keep a Mac from acquiring spyware is ... ? LOL


19 posted on 07/19/2005 12:29:03 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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To: theFIRMbss

I wonder what the balance sheets would look like without the IPod cash cow ?


20 posted on 07/19/2005 12:34:44 PM PDT by RS (Just because they are out to get him, it doesn't mean he's not guilty.)
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