[Skywalk]

I agree with you. I will not dance on his grave, but the man and his ideas were made to look foolish when the ACTUAL successes of Creighton Abrams were witnessed after Westmoreland's command was finished.

If Abrams and JP Vann were in charge from the beginning, there would be a second "South Korea" in Asia right now.

[wingman1]

"...If Abrams and JP Vann were in charge from the beginning..."

Interesting. I often think of Vann whenever I hear anyone complain that we do not have enough troops in Iraq.

[wtc911]

I agree with you. I will not dance on his grave, but the man and his ideas were made to look foolish when the ACTUAL successes of Creighton Abrams were witnessed after Westmoreland's command was finished.

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Same here...respect for his service but a realistic view of what happened under his command, primarily the "body count" farce and TET. Tet proved a victory in that it effectively destroyed the VC's capabilities but two things need to be remembered...the very fact that the VC and NVA were able to stage and launch Tet with nearly 70,000 troops right under westy's nose and Westy's reaction, which was a total misread; his view was that Tet was a diversion and that the real push would come at Khe Sanh. The German's failed at Normandy in large part due to the same faulty thinking.