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What the Karl Rove Issue Is Really About
Subscriber e-mail from Elizabeth Dole | Monday July 18, 2005 18:16:02 | Elizabeth Dole

Posted on 07/18/2005 4:27:36 PM PDT by fight_truth_decay

Dear Friend,

The attacks from certain members of the Democratic Party against Karl Rove this week have been an absolute disgrace. This is an attempt at personal destruction and political opportunism at its very worst-it is downright shameless.

It has been reported that the liberal extremist group MoveOn.org has been giving the Democratic leadership direction over the last several months. It comes as no surprise that MoveOn.org was the first to call for Karl Rove's resignation this week.

But for members of Congress to take part in this smear campaign, that's an entirely different and truly unfortunate matter altogether. The Democratic leadership even brought the political attack against Mr. Rove to the floor of the United States Senate on Thursday by offering an amendment to the Homeland Security Appropriations bill that would strip his security clearance. Strip his security clearance based on what, hearsay? What an absolute sham!

This excerpt from a statement from Mr. Rove's attorney, Robert Luskin, should help demonstrate why the Democrats are so completely and utterly off base in their political antics:

"Rove has cooperated completely with the special prosecutor, and he has been repeatedly assured he is not a target of the investigation. Rove has done nothing wrong. We're confident that he will not become a target after the special prosecutor has reviewed all evidence."

Majority Leader Bill Frist summed it up quite well in saying, "this is a sad and disappointing afternoon here in the United States Senate."

Based on the information at their disposal, the Democrats have taken reckless partisan attacks to a new level. The Democratic Party leadership is in disarray and they are desperate-attacking has become their modus operandi. They have personally attacked the President's well qualified judicial nominees. They have attacked every single plan that is put forth to address saving Social Security. Howard Dean personally attacked the Republican Party, saying its members have not worked an honest day in their lives. And the Minority Leader Harry Reid personally attacked the President of the United States by calling him a loser and a liar. The Democratic leadership has guided the Party into an abyss-no new ideas, no agenda, just negativity.

Below are some quotes from Senate Democrats that fully acknowledge the points that I am making and should serve as a reminder why it is so important to support the Republican Majority in the United States Senate.

With warmest best wishes,

Elizabeth Dole


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To: fight_truth_decay
Something is going on here that is just not dems in attack mode trying to take down Rove, although it might be a part of their agenda.

Somebody's really in trouble, and they know damn well it's not Rove, but are going to try and bring him down for the hell of it. They might figure they have nothing to lose after all the scandals they've tried to manufacture over the last 5 years have left them looking like the silly prix they really are.

It's important to remember the MSM filed a brief stating there was no criminal activity so our reporter should not have to name sources. Now, they've reversed that stance to a point of an absolute ridiculous fever! I feel there is a deflection going on by the press of biblical perportion. Judith Miller is sitting in a jail cell not because she feels she has to protect a source for ethical reasons, or to protect other reporters, it's much more complicated.

Yesterday, I kept asking was Plame REALLY covert, and got a multitude of rebuke! Everything from her former Boss to J. Wilson stating she wasn't covert at the time her name was revealed. That's not the issue here, and the press knows it, but they keep insisting it. The issue is why is a reporter sitting in jail to protect a source, that her bosses argued to the court, committed no criminal activity because Plame was either already outed, or NOT covert. They have to know Rove is not in any criminal danger and the President has stated ONLY if there was cinimal activity would that person no longer be in his adm.

Who's Miller's source?

21 posted on 07/18/2005 4:58:03 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: T Lady
What the Karl Rove Issue Is Really About:

Democrats/MSM distracting from the real issue surrounding Plame: 1) CIA desk-jockeys who disagree with Bush attempting to undermine his foreign policy. Their job is to interpret and analyze data, not set policy (WTH is Plame doing sending her partisan hack husband on an intel gathering op?) 2) Dems obscuring that their "blood for oil" mantra was based on lies by the weasel lair Joe Wilson.

22 posted on 07/18/2005 4:58:22 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: jveritas

no


23 posted on 07/18/2005 4:58:51 PM PDT by calex59
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To: Fenris6
//edited - preview is your friend ;)

What the Karl Rove Issue Is Really About:

Democrats/MSM distracting from the real issue surrounding Plame:

1) CIA desk-jockeys who disagree with Bush attempting to undermine his foreign policy. Their job is to interpret and analyze data, not set policy (WTH is Plame doing sending her partisan hack husband on an intel gathering op?)

2) Dems obscuring that their "blood for oil" mantra was based on lies by the weasel lair Joe Wilson.

24 posted on 07/18/2005 4:59:54 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: fight_truth_decay
What i don't understand is why it isn't being shouted from the mountain tops that Hillary Clinton gave Matt Cooper's baby a shower and is close friends with Cooper's wife, Demo hack Mady Grunwald.
25 posted on 07/18/2005 5:02:06 PM PDT by FreedomSurge
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To: Fenris6

Exactly.

...The day Dr. Rice was confirmed as Secretary of State, the CIA desk jockeys as you so aptly call them, were more than likely sick to the stomach after she made it clear that she would not coddle any of the rogue nations from the U.N..

They have been gunning for Bush ever since, and quite frankly need to be permanently retired and removed from the intelligence payroll.


26 posted on 07/18/2005 5:03:48 PM PDT by T Lady (The American Left: Useful Idiots for Terrorist Regimes)
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To: fight_truth_decay
Dear Elizabeth,
A sad day? How about going PMS on these SOBs?
One reason support for the party is FALLING is that
YOU are not IN THE FACES OF THE RATS, biting their noses
off, you control the house, the presidency and have a majority in the senate and these socialist dictators
still haven't been chastised YET!
IT's time to take them to the woodshed and give them the
hiding they deserve.
Yours.
t.
27 posted on 07/18/2005 5:04:41 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: fight_truth_decay
I DON'T GIVE A DAMN WHAT IT'S ABOUT ANY LONGER!

The OLD MEDIA and DEMOCRATS are all a bunch of lying scum and I'm sick of them!!!

NONE of them have an ounce of honesty left in their bodies. They think we are all too stupid to figure out what they're doing. I wouldn't vote for a Democrat now even if I agreed with everything they said.

As for the OLD MEDIA, I refuse to watch them any longer. They have proven through this mess that they can't be trusted to tell the entire truth. If they don't agree with something they just make it up!

It doesn't bother them in the least to LIE THEIR *SSES OFF to the "American People".

THEY CAN TAKE THEIR "NEWS" AND SHOVE IT!!!
28 posted on 07/18/2005 5:05:36 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: phoenix0468
The person who should be investigated here, as you obviously agree, is the wife.

I call this scandal --- MommyGate ---.

In an interview Joe Wilson said that it was illogical to think that Val wanted him sent on the mission.

Joe said that his wife, the CIA WMD expert, needed him at home, to help watch the twins.

Maybe Val brainwashed or hypnotized Joe.

29 posted on 07/18/2005 5:07:53 PM PDT by syriacus (To WHICH entity does LIBELLER JOE WILSON pledge is allegiance?)
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To: MamaB

The chair recognizes the woman from Kans....um, North Carolina.


30 posted on 07/18/2005 5:08:07 PM PDT by soupcon
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To: kcvl

"The OLD MEDIA and DEMOCRATS are all a bunch of lying scum and I'm sick of them!!!"

I don't even bother to watch them (ABC/CBS/NBC/CNN) anymore - even for opposition research. People in the know are reading/writing blogs (ala POWERLINE).

Whats great is the number of people calling in to shows mocking the MSM for being lying weasels. The Net has broken the MSM information monopoly and the public is finally starting to "get it".


31 posted on 07/18/2005 5:09:16 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: Firefigher NC

You're so right! The story below made me think of our current Democrats, so determined to viciously attack Bush/Cheney/Rove, et al that they may well end up destroying their own electoral chances (one can hope) for many years to come.....



450 Sheep Jump to Their Deaths in Turkey

The Associated Press
Friday, July 8, 2005; 9:59 PM

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/07/08/AR2005070800553_pf.html

ISTANBUL, Turkey -- First one sheep jumped to its death. Then stunned Turkish shepherds, who had left the herd to graze while they had breakfast, watched as nearly 1,500 others followed, each leaping off the same cliff, Turkish media reported.

In the end, 450 dead animals lay on top of one another in a billowy white pile, the Aksam newspaper said. Those who jumped later were saved as the pile got higher and the fall more cushioned, Aksam reported.


32 posted on 07/18/2005 5:10:14 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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To: sirchtruth

"Judith Miller is sitting in a jail cell not because she feels she has to protect a source for ethical reasons, or to protect other reporters, it's much more complicated."

Judith Miller is the "leak" (via Joe Wilson). She's sitting in jail to protect herself, invoking the 1st when she should be invoking the 5th.


33 posted on 07/18/2005 5:12:11 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: DoughtyOne
"This presents a dilema. What can you offer a nation that recognizes you for what you are, when you're unwilling to change?"

You are right -- it is a long time coming, and the day is almost here. We have been lied to us for many years. Why judges are so important to the Democrats -- they realize they can't win public opinion.
34 posted on 07/18/2005 5:12:39 PM PDT by dhs12345
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To: fight_truth_decay

"It has been reported that the liberal extremist group MoveOn.org has been giving the Democratic leadership direction over the last several months. It comes as no surprise that MoveOn.org was the first to call for Karl Rove's resignation this week."

Transcript of Chat with Ambassador Joe Wilson (Official John Kerry Blog Site)

*** Joe Wilson (Oct 29, 2003 11:39:02 AM)

I had dinner last Friday night with the founders of MoveON.org

they are terrific patriots and citizens

They remind me of what a great nation, what a great people we are

I believe what they are doing is the wave of the future

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1174083/posts


35 posted on 07/18/2005 5:13:50 PM PDT by Sam Hill
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To: Fenris6
Judith Miller is the "leak" (via Joe Wilson). She's sitting in jail to protect herself, invoking the 1st when she should be invoking the 5th.

So are you on the MSM boat that Plame WAS covert?

36 posted on 07/18/2005 5:19:15 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: sirchtruth

"So are you on the MSM boat that Plame WAS covert?"

She was not covert - hence the scare quotes around "leak"


37 posted on 07/18/2005 5:20:16 PM PDT by Fenris6 (3 Purple Hearts in 4 months w/o missing a day of work? He's either John Rambo or a Fraud)
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To: sirchtruth
I have to agree with you again and ask the same question, " who or what is Judith Miller hiding"? I think she is protecting Plame. Because of their common interest in WMDs it probably came out in one of their meetings.
38 posted on 07/18/2005 5:20:44 PM PDT by depenzz
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To: Fenris6
She was not covert - hence the scare quotes around "leak"

If Plame was not covert, there is no crime, there is no reason for Miller to be sitting in jail, there was no reason for Fitzgerald to put her there, for not revealing a source.

39 posted on 07/18/2005 5:23:13 PM PDT by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: T Lady
Don't you know there were some "Covert Meetings" going on after Dr Rice made that statement? :o)

The democrats are truly mob rule now. It's like watching a house burn down.

40 posted on 07/18/2005 5:26:23 PM PDT by daybreakcoming (May God bless those who enter the valley of the shadow of death so that we may see the light of day.)
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