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Mysterious Texas Lights Draw Crowds (Marfa Lights)
Yahoo News via AP ^ | Sat Jul 16,11:46 AM ET | By MICHAEL GRACZYK, AP

Posted on 07/17/2005 6:55:52 AM PDT by No Blue States

MARFA, Texas - Nevada has Area 51. New Mexico has Roswell. Texas has the Marfa Lights.

Whatever's out there sparkling or dancing across Mitchell Flat and toward the Chinati Mountains has both befuddled people and attracted them to this remote area east of Marfa for well over a century.

They start converging about dusk on a desolate spot in the West Texas desert with a ridge view and an expanse of some 20 miles of treeless rangeland.

A few bring lawn chairs. Some find a spot on concrete picnic tables. Others lean against a brick wall.

With darkness toward to the east and the remnants of a spectacular sunset to the west, the first cries erupt.

"Look! Look!"

Fingers point. Binoculars get fine tuned. A few cameras click. All the attention focuses on specks of brilliance.

Legend. Myth. Natural phenomenon. UFOs?

"I just want to see for myself, and say I saw them," James Teems, 61, from Hobbs, N.M., said on a recent night.

"I thought we'd come over and look," said his wife, Fern, 59. "Looks like campfires."

That was the description back in the 1800s when cowboys and pioneers first noticed the lights. According to numerous accounts, they speculated they were camp fires or signal fires from Apaches who roamed the wilderness area around Texas' Big Bend. But, as the legend has it, when folks went over for a closer inspection, they found no sign of fires.

And still haven't.

"I'm having a hard time believing no one knows what it is," said Mike Thompson, who with his wife and two daughters made the stop as part of a trip to the region from their home about 300 miles away in San Angelo. "We've heard about this for a long time. We're here to see if we can see anything."

The lights on a recent pair of June evenings appeared to float above the horizon, dip and occasionally flare. At times, there were two or three simultaneously. They generally moved left to right, up and down. Then there were periods of no lights.

"It looks like car lights," one woman said.

Could be.

Highway U.S. 67, the main route between Marfa and Presidio, winds and seesaws 60 miles to the south on the Texas-Mexico border. A car's headlights easily could be detected in the darkness from miles away.

But the lights were here before cars and even before electricity reached the region.

There are numerous theories on what causes the phenomenon. Moonlight on mica veins sparkling off the mountains. Swamp gas. Static electricity. Atmospheric conditions created by warm and cold layers of air bending light rays that only can be seen from afar.

Then there are the ghosts of the Conquistadores looking for gold, or the old Apache explanation of stars dropping to Earth.

"I have seen strange lights that moved oddly and were definitely not on the ground," said Bernie Zelazney, with the Big Bend Astronomical Society.

Some years ago he saw lights that were "bright bluish and red colors and would come together, then one would go away."

"It was unusual," he said.

Zelazney said one explanation he leans toward is called the piezoelectric effect, where voltage is created between moving solid surfaces — in this case, rock containing quartz that contracts and expands as the surface heats and cools.

"There's a lot of quartz in the mountains out there," he said.

The effect was discovered by Pierre Curie in 1883, coincidentally the same year rancher Robert Reed Ellison is credited with the first disclosure of the Marfa Lights.

Joe Duncan, 46, owner of the Paisano Hotel, estimates a third of his customers come to see the Marfa Lights, which are celebrated with a festival each summer. He subscribes to the car-lights-on-the-highway theory.

Sort of.

"It's a hilly road, so it comes and goes and they see that," Duncan said. "But there have been too many people that are too intelligent that say there is something out there, and that if it was just the car lights somebody would have figured it out. They were definitely here before headlights.

"Static electricity," he adds. "That's what old timers here have told me."

Other local folks have stories of lights following them or bearing down on them as they travel lonely U.S. 90 between Alpine and Marfa. About a 10-minute drive east of town, the Texas Department of Transportation has erected a roadside rest stop that serves as the "Marfa Mystery Lights Viewing Area," according to the road sign.

It's where the nightly gathering of the curious assembles, with everything from motorcycles to tractor-trailer rigs filling the free parking area.

"I'd heard about it for years," said Jack Phillips, 52, who was touring the area by motorcycle with his wife and stopped for the show. "You can't beat the price."

"I think it's somebody on the hill," Christi Collier, 54, of Austin, offered while gazing at the lights. "It's a big campfire."

"I don't understand," said her companion, Lane Howard, 49. "They can tell us what happened on the moon a million years ago but they can't explain this?"


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; Philosophy; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: marfalights; mystery; texas
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I have seen the Marfa lights and wonder what other peoples opinions are as to their cause.

If you are wondering, I do not know. They were not that much like car headlights. More like floating balls of electricty. Or at least it appeared that way.

Some sort of optical illusion? Headlights reflecting off the mountains? But there were no cars when they were 1st observed..

If you have not actually seen them, its easier to dismiss as a scam. Its way too much work for someone to do nearly every night for a joke, and would have been found out after all these years.

I am baffled 10 years after looking at them. There are websites that appear to explain them away, but they arent 100% convincing imo.

1 posted on 07/17/2005 6:55:54 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States

We have the Paulding lights here in Michigans UP. They say its due to the earths crust rubbing together


2 posted on 07/17/2005 6:58:47 AM PDT by Luigi Vasellini (60% of Saudis, 58%of Iraqis, 55%of Kuwaitis,50% of Jordanians married 1st or 2nd cousins. LOL!!!)
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To: No Blue States; Tijeras_Slim; anniegetyourgun

That Shaft is one baad marfa...


3 posted on 07/17/2005 7:00:47 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: No Blue States

Sounds like ball lightning.


5 posted on 07/17/2005 7:01:39 AM PDT by mmercier (in what way princes must keep faith)
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To: No Blue States
too much LONE STAR long-necks followed by Tequilla shooters
6 posted on 07/17/2005 7:02:56 AM PDT by pointsal
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To: No Blue States
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7 posted on 07/17/2005 7:03:07 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States

That same phenomenon occurs in a big swamp near the community of Oak Grove, SC (near the border between Marlboro County and Dillon County). People there don't know what it is, either.


8 posted on 07/17/2005 7:04:40 AM PDT by Renfield (If Gene Tracy was the entertainment at your senior prom, YOU might be a redneck...)
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To: martin_fierro

Shut yo mouf.


9 posted on 07/17/2005 7:04:47 AM PDT by cripplecreek (If a democrats lips are moving, they're lying.)
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To: No Blue States

I went to the viewing station last year with my parents and daughter. Dad says he saw them once in the 50's, but we didn see them this go-around. Would like to someday.


10 posted on 07/17/2005 7:05:27 AM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: No Blue States

Fireflies.


11 posted on 07/17/2005 7:05:34 AM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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To: cripplecreek

... but I'm jus' talkin' 'bout Shaft!


12 posted on 07/17/2005 7:06:26 AM PDT by martin_fierro (< |:)~)
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To: bobbdobbs
"How often do they occur? Can you see them every night? Or is it just occasionally?

If I were investigating, the first thing I would do would be to bring a couple of survey transits and triangulate the lights to get their distance."

We were visiting Alpine on a honeymoon and went there one evening. They were very visible then, but we may have got lucky. I heard they do not appear every night.

I wanted to drive over to them for a closer look.
Im not sure if the disappear as you approach one.
13 posted on 07/17/2005 7:06:29 AM PDT by No Blue States
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Someone must have by now attempted to go where the lights seem to be coming from at the time the lights are active. When he gets there, what does he find? If it seems that the lights are always receding from the observer that would be a clue this is some kind of mirage. Do the lights have any relationship with the lunar phases? Perhaps when the moon is bright, the reflected light from the moon reflects again off of shiny quartz rocks sticking out of the hill. Just pondering.


14 posted on 07/17/2005 7:06:39 AM PDT by Jason_b
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To: No Blue States

Kind of like September/October in the cornbelt when you're out there just sitting around a campfire, next to a field that's being left to dry, and you can see the Indians moving around just like they did a thousand years ago.


15 posted on 07/17/2005 7:06:40 AM PDT by muawiyah (/sarcasm and invective)
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To: pointsal
too much LONE STAR long-necks followed by Tequilla shooters

lol that would do it!

16 posted on 07/17/2005 7:07:05 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: Luigi Vasellini

Yooper in the house!! I'm a thumb-body myself, lol... the UP is amazing.


17 posted on 07/17/2005 7:09:59 AM PDT by CollegeRepublicanNU (I can't seem to find human sized 'RAT traps................)
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To: mmercier
Sounds like ball lightning.

Thats what I think they looked like most. They almost appeared to be pulsating and some had a red or blue tint.

18 posted on 07/17/2005 7:10:53 AM PDT by No Blue States
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To: No Blue States
There are many places which have similar types of lights.

I have always thought they are either some sort of electrical anomaly related to the auroras or some sort of light lensing produced by the atmosphere.
19 posted on 07/17/2005 7:11:27 AM PDT by federal
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To: Luigi Vasellini
Have you seen those Paulding lights? If so what did you think?

Sometimes it seems like everything has already been discovered or explained. Its nice to still have a few mysteries left to make one wonder.

20 posted on 07/17/2005 7:12:16 AM PDT by No Blue States
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