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As always, soliciting FReeper comments, observations, and opinions.
1 posted on 07/17/2005 5:41:24 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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The new DNC talking point is that this is NOW a national security issue.

The reason for this is the Democrat ("gay") Party is seeing and feeling they can use the Rove non issue to say GWBush is weak on security.

Their faux outrage is comical given the carter and clinton years of GUTTING the intelligence services.

Next Hitlary clinton going after Grand Theft Auto will be a national security issue.

Seems to me that Mr. Wilson getting authority to do ANYTHING involving national secuirty is a breach of secuity. Whatever he alegedly did in the past, his creditials are VASTLY over rated.


279 posted on 07/17/2005 7:43:22 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE!)
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Is John Podesta on CRACK or SOMETHING?

He is constantly 'bouncing' up and down as he talks, its VERY annoying.

Summary of him:

1) Usual Dimocrap tactic (accuse opponent of your own 'dirty tricks'), saying "as usual the Republicans are just about attack, attack, attack, and smearing people and trying to undermine their credabitliy (in reference to Joe Wilson). -- Just like sKerry publishing that 'open letter to GWB in September saying they should 'get along' after a week of "he lied" all over the place.

2) Just like RUSH was talking about last week... shifted from "he will be gone becuase he broke the law" to "he should go because he is a political liabilty to the president because of these 'accusations" (of course supported by poll numbers offered by Russert)


341 posted on 07/17/2005 8:12:39 AM PDT by FreedomNeocon (I'm in no Al-Samood for this Sheiite.)
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Good Morning AB, fellow Freepers ... Late of the dime, hadda get chemo this AM. Now, where am I ...
343 posted on 07/17/2005 8:13:38 AM PDT by Right Winged American (No matter how Cynical I get, I just can't keep up!)
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Ken Mehlman just ate Timmy Russert's lunch.
The potato turned totally red.

If he gets in that Plame's boss has said that she was not a covert agent and hadn't been for over five years, it's all over.

363 posted on 07/17/2005 8:23:50 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly evil.)
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Have any new "facts" emerged in today's round of interviews and pontifications?


406 posted on 07/17/2005 8:59:54 AM PDT by bjc (Check the data!!)
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My favorite scene today was Chuck Schumer on FTN.

Schumer said he didn't think that a law had been violated in L'Affaire L'Plame. Yet Schumer prided himself in being the first to ask for a special prosecutor to investigate the matter.

Why did Schumer ask for a prosecuter to investigate a matter when he didn't think a crime was committed? Will the MSM ever ask? And if Schumer has changed his mind regarding whether a crime has been committed, which facts have changed his mind?


421 posted on 07/17/2005 9:12:17 AM PDT by SolidSupplySide
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Could minor Ambassador Joe Wilson himself have been the source in blowing his own Wife's cover?

It is distinctly possible, (though it may be unlikely that Joe Wilson himself directly was NY Times Judith Miller's source), since Joe Wilson himself evidently routinely bragged openly to strangers about her CIA employment, prior to such "cover" being "blown" in the press.

Here's an example of Joe's apparently routine and open bragging about Valerie being a "CIA agent," which became known directly to me over a year ago:

He certainly bragged about it per a famous and highly reliable source's (named below) account of his own face-to-face encounter with Amb. Joe Wilson prior to Valerie Plame's "outing" as a CIA agent/employee.

Based upon a personal conversation (we were in a small group eating; it was NOT an "off the record") I had with eminent historian Victor Davis Hanson (we were at a luncheon table together during a trip to Europe), it appeared entirely possible that Joe Wilson himself was the (or one source, if not the original one) possible source in revealing his own wife's status as a CIA agent or employee.

Victor Davis Hanson (Wilson presumably knew Victor Davis Hanson wrote regularly for NRO (National Review Online), had done OpEds for the Wall street Journal, and other publications, and had his own Website with a widespread following) said he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were both in the same "Green Room" before a televised debate-discussion on Iraq, etc. and Joe first warned the TV make-up person not to get powder on his $14,000 Rolex watch, then he bragged to Victor about several things (possessions and trips to Aspen, etc.), like his expensive car (I think it was a Mercedes), and then bragged about his beautiful wife who, Joe Wilson said (braggingly) was a CIA operative.

I asked Victor Davis Hanson Why he didn't write up this account.(?) He replied that Joe Wilson would probably simply deny it, since only he (VDH) & Joe Wilson were in the Green Room together before the broadcast.

However, it is now easy to surmise that Joe Wilson is a crass, materialistic, self-promoting, vain, egotistical, bragaddocio-opportunist, so this account is perfectly consistent with Valerie Plame's TWO photo shoots in Vanity Fair. (Or was it Vogue? No, probably too crass for Vogue, n'est pas?)


670 posted on 07/17/2005 3:13:50 PM PDT by FReethesheeples (Gonzales appears to be quite WEAK on Property rights!)
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