Sunday Morning Talk Show Thread 17 July 2005

Various big media television networks ^ | 17 July 2005 | Various Self-Serving Politicians and Big Media Screaming Faces

[Morgan in Denver]

http://www.nndb.com/people/875/000098581/ is a source for the Mandy Grunwald marriage.

http://www.thenation.com/docprint.mhtml?i=20050606&s=sargent search for the word Grunwald to find the reference

Searches using Mandy Grunwald, Hillary Clinton, Matt Cooper will provide numerous hits for information

[YaYa123]

Cooper's first lie came in his opening. He either lied to Rove or he's lying here about why he called Rove. We know that call was supposed to have been about something else entirely, but here's Cooper Sunday version:

""COOPER: ... about Saddam Hussein trying to get uranium in Africa to make nuclear weapons. The White House that week said it may be true, but it was not checked out well enough to merit it being in the State of the Union address. So there was a big controversy on that. And I called Rove with that on my mind.

Matt Drama Queen Cooper's biggest deception might be that pathetic, hound dog victim look he affects for the cameras.

[NathanBookman]

And I saw elsewhere he said he couldnt find anything in his notes about welfare reform, but he was writing an article on it. What?

[NathanBookman]

I hope Fitzgerald wraps this up soon.

[Mo1]

And he did indeed give me a warning, saying don't get too far out on Wilson, which I took to mean don't lionize Wilson, don't believe everything you hear about Wilson.

And Rove was right .. Wilson has been proven by the Senate Intel Committee AND the 9/11 Commision to be a Liar

I suppose it's Rove's fault that Cooper is an idiot not to take the hint huh?

[samantha]

"maybe she wants to keep her CIA job". That is probably part of it,but she is not clean in this at all,and she could be a target herself. What motive did she have for recommending her Foppish Husband for the "yellow cake Deal"? Since he was retired,how much money did the Government pay him to sip tea,and troll for Business partners in Africa. They are both leftist, Bush hating democrats,and they live high on the hog. This is probably getting to be a huge diversion for anything the CIA is trying to do on the Anti Terrorism front. It is a long time until the Grand Jury will be disbanded in late Sept or early October,and the out of control democrats plan on beating this to death until then. They figure that if they spend every waking moment til October pushing their crap that whatever the Prosecutor later says will not be listened to because the MSM/DNC will not cover it.

[snugs]

Just checked back after doing some chores and saw your post

I bet you are glad, as we are, that Cheney's physical went well yesterday... they said today that he has a small case of acid-reflux, but considering the idiots in Washington that he has to put up with, I suppose he is lucky it is only a small case!!!

Yes considering his age and past health problems as I said on another thread with the strenuous medical they must give a Vice President I think the results of the physical was both encouraging and probably the same or better than the average 64 year would be.

[Bahbah]

TO MSM: DO YOUR &%@^$@* JOBS!!!!

I think what I am learning from all of this is that the MSM sees its job as making sure that the RIGHT people are in office and in power. That is why, while there is an element of comedy in this, it is not really funny. The media and the leftist WORK TOGETHER with like minded people at the CIA and at STATE and, in so doing, they damage our government and they damage our war effort. I wish they could be stopped.

[YaYa123]

Surely the special prosecutor and the grand jury will know Matt Cooper engaged in deception with Karl Rove. He lied about why he was calling.

The State of the Union, with those 16 words occured back in the winter. This call took place in June, with only Joe Wilson's ire being the new component. Cooper has to be lying when he acts totally ignorant of Joe Wilson. You have to think those lies willl make Cooper's testimony to the grand jury suspect.

[Mo1]

Cooper's first lie came in his opening. He either lied to Rove or he's lying here about why he called Rove. We know that call was supposed to have been about something else entirely, but here's Cooper Sunday version:

Remember Rove's email to council at the WH in regards to Cooper's call .. he (Rove) didn't take the bait

Here's my guess .. reporters all over DC were making calls in attempt to set up the WH

[NavySEAL F-16]

We need a "Freeper pool" to see what or who the dems are going to accuse of something next?

They've got to stay away from murder, plaigerizing, unlawful gifts, etc. This should be fun -- NOT.

[snugs]

Laurie Dhue just asked him about the British MI-5 letting one of the bomber go last year, that was involved in this... Let us all remember his answer....He said that things like that happen no matter how good intelligence is...that some people just get through... WE have to remember what he said, because IF there is an attack here in the US, and we find out that one of the terrorists had been questioned by the CIA (Bush's CIA) and written off as not involved in terrorism, HE CANNOT come on Fox and blame the Bush CIA...

Very good point and unfortunately true as the CIA, MI5, FBI etc are only made up of people who after all are not infallible.

[prairiebreeze]

I don't know if Miller was the charity tipster, but Fitzgerald does have an issue with her on something prior to this Plame story, IIRC.

[tiredoflaundry]

Here's my guess .. reporters all over DC were making calls in attempt to set up the WH

Naw.... ya think? ;-)

At this point there is so much finger pointing, Someone is gonna knock someones eye out! :-)

[Mo1]

Surely the special prosecutor and the grand jury will know Matt Cooper engaged in deception with Karl Rove. He lied about why he was calling.

Here's the thing .. we really don't know what exactly Cooper said under oath in front of the GJ

What he said to them and what he is saying to the public .. could be 2 different things ... or he could have lied in court

Time will tell

[Mo1]

At this point there is so much finger pointing, Someone is gonna knock someones eye out! :-)

Yep .. LOL

But what counts is what is being asked in that Grand Jury .. and I don't think it's just about who mentioned Plame's name first

Remember .. Miller didn't wrote about the Wilson/Plame story

[rodguy911]

Game, set, match here-- hole in one.

[norwaypinesavage]

I agree. Some have speculated that Judith Miller is sitting in jail to protect discussions with her, rather than talking with Fitzgerald.

[NavySEAL F-16]

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[norwaypinesavage]

"The only reason the reporterette is in jail is because there is another source besides Rove. The question is who??"

Valery Plame??