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US animal rights fanatic in Britain vows to break law
The Sunday Telegraph ^ | July 17, 2005 | Daniel Foggo

Posted on 07/16/2005 11:09:12 PM PDT by MadIvan

Animal rights extremists gathered secretly in a Kent field yesterday to hear an American activist declare: "We will break the law and destroy property until we win."

Dr Steven Best, a philosophy professor and exponent of the Animal Liberation Front, told about 200 activists at the International Animal Rights Gathering 2005: "Now communism is dead, we are the new spectre in the world. We are named as the number one terrorist threat in the US and UK. Can you believe it?"

He added: "We are not terrorists, but we are a threat. We are a threat both economically and philosophically. Our power is not in the right to vote but the power to stop production. We will break the law and destroy property until we win."

He compared the animal rights struggle to the fight against slavery. "We are abolitionists. We don't want to reform them [vivisectionist companies], we want to wipe them off the face of the earth. We will fight, and die if necessary, to free the slaves."

Despite the Government's insistence that it is tightening measures to prevent foreign extremists who support criminal and violent acts from entering Britain, Dr Best is being allowed to give such speeches unchallenged.

Dr Best, who describes himself as a "sympathiser" of both the ALF and the Earth Liberation Front, both of which are listed as terrorist groups in the United States, believes that violence is morally right if the cause is "just".

The Government, which announced on Friday that it would seek to introduce laws banning the endorsement of terrorist acts, is also sponsoring a Bill to criminalise the kind of economic sabotage carried out by the ALF.

Yet Dr Best was espousing his views yesterday with the Government's permission. Last August, the academic narrowly avoided being barred from Britain after David Blunkett, the then home secretary, sent him a letter saying he was "minded to exclude" him, drawing attention to Dr Best's history of supporting the ALF.

Dr Best, who teaches at the University of Texas in El Paso, replied that he supported the ALF, but denied that the organisation was violent.

"Because they attack the property of animal exploiters and never the exploiters themselves, I consider the ALF to be a non-violent organisation," he wrote. He was later told he would be allowed into Britain. Three other advocates of extremist action, Dr Jerry Vlasak, Pamelyn Ferdin and Rod Coronado, who all received similar letters, were barred.

A Home Office official said: "We took the view that he wasn't violent and a threat in the same way as the others."

Dr Best wrote about the decision: "I was somewhat embarrassed for not being militant enough to be considered a threat."

The International Animal Rights Gathering 2005 is being held in a private field over the weekend near Tonbridge. Those attending are being given instruction in unarmed combat and counter-surveillance, and told how to take "direct action" in the name of animal liberation.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: activities; animals; animalwhackos; loonies
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I take it you lot won't mind if we throw his sorry arse in prison as soon as he makes an attempt to turn talk into action.

Regards, Ivan


1 posted on 07/16/2005 11:09:13 PM PDT by MadIvan
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Ping!


2 posted on 07/16/2005 11:09:35 PM PDT by MadIvan (You underestimate the power of the Dark Side - http://www.sithorder.com/)
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You might want to send him to Texas - we'd just shoot him, no fuss, no muss, you know.
3 posted on 07/16/2005 11:13:41 PM PDT by decal (Where were YOU when AndyScam broke? Sluthering, perhaps?)
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I take it you lot won't mind if we throw his sorry arse in prison as soon as he makes an attempt to turn talk into action.

That'd be the Best Case Scenario.

4 posted on 07/16/2005 11:16:13 PM PDT by martin_fierro (</pun>)
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To: MadIvan

VIDEO: Animal Liberation Front (ALF) activists vandalize laboratory
http://animalliberationfront.us/ALFront/Actions-USA/communique_2005-07.wmv


5 posted on 07/16/2005 11:21:54 PM PDT by ppaul
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To: MadIvan

This creep's Web site features a quote from Karl Marx and a photo of Che Guevara. Pretty much says it all...


6 posted on 07/16/2005 11:26:39 PM PDT by LibFreeOrDie (L'chaim!)
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To: MadIvan

They all tend to be leather wearing hypcorites anyway. My sister looked after the notorious Swampy's dog once. All he ever fed it was beans on toast and it was covered in fleas.


7 posted on 07/16/2005 11:27:40 PM PDT by kingsurfer
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To: MadIvan
Let me fix your typo:

I take it you lot won't mind if we throw his sorry arse in prison off a cliff as soon as he makes an attempt to turn talk into action.

Perfect.

8 posted on 07/16/2005 11:29:29 PM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Canada is the answer to a question that nobody bothered to ask." --Stand W)
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To: decal; MadIvan
You might want to send him to Texas - we'd just shoot him, no fuss, no muss, you know.

Texans: All hat and no cattle.

9 posted on 07/16/2005 11:32:21 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy (God is a comedian playing to an audience too afraid to laugh. . - Voltaire)
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To: Oztrich Boy

"To live in Australia permanently is rather like going to a party and dancing all night with one's mother."


10 posted on 07/16/2005 11:34:44 PM PDT by decal ("The French should stick to kisses, toast and fries.")
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To: MadIvan

When you toss him in there, lose the key. Please.


11 posted on 07/16/2005 11:50:24 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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It never ceases to amaze me that our public funded universities employ such crap as this idiot.

First time I had ever heard of him.

I suspect that UTEP needs to investigate this nut and then get rid of his sorry A$$.

The PETA, ELF and ALF people are the scum of the earth.

It bothers me greatly that El Peso would have such a left wing radical here in Texas.

This guy is evidently one of the Turds who has floated to the top of the sewer.

I would venture to say that this fruitcake would be the first one to scream if someone infringed on his radical extremists preaching.
12 posted on 07/17/2005 12:02:45 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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It never ceases to amaze me that our public funded universities employ such crap as this idiot.

And the private (non-Christian) ones dont?

13 posted on 07/17/2005 12:06:04 AM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: MadIvan
Ives, it's your country, your rules. Have at him.

Incidentally, Pamelyn Ferdin (if it's the same one I'm thinking of, and with that name, I doubt there's any other) is an actress, probably best known for her prolific work as a child in the Sixties and Seventies. She wasn't literally in every single American movie and TV program back then...it just seemed that way sometimes. I'd heard she was an outspoken animal activist, but not that she'd gotten banned from the UK.

14 posted on 07/17/2005 12:07:58 AM PDT by RichInOC (If God did not mean for us to eat animals, why did He make them out of meat?)
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To: Windsong

Your absolutely right oh wise one.

I wasn't necessarily defending private universities only making a statement about those receiving great amounts of our tax dollars.

However unless your talking about those located in BLUE states.

Private schools on a whole do not employ as many kooks as public funded ones.


15 posted on 07/17/2005 12:20:39 AM PDT by OKIEDOC (LL THE)
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To: MadIvan

"We are named as the number one terrorist threat in the US and UK. Can you believe it?"

Slightly overrating yourself there Stephen....


16 posted on 07/17/2005 1:38:06 AM PDT by Canard
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To: MadIvan

Thank you for your comment. I doubt these remarks will go over well in the current climate.


17 posted on 07/17/2005 2:09:38 AM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: MadIvan
No. Not at all. We've just sent one of his fellow travelers to prison here in CA.
18 posted on 07/17/2005 2:17:56 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: MadIvan
I'm surprised Her Majesty's Government allowed him into the U.K. As far as I'm concerned even incitement to terrorist acts should be treated as a crime. In other words, if you advocate the destruction of property, the murder of innocents, or the disruption of essential services, that should be treated no less seriously than the actual terrorist offense itself. Advocacy of such acts ought to be criminal since it can invite others into committing them. So yes, there should limits on free speech in a civilized society.

(Denny Crane: "Sometimes you can only look for answers from God and failing that... and Fox News".)
19 posted on 07/17/2005 2:54:58 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: MadIvan
This is INSANITY.

Animals have no "rights."

Humans who put animals above all are demented, twisted, sick. How did we become surrounded by lunatics of every stripe??

20 posted on 07/17/2005 5:37:11 AM PDT by veronica
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