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Muslim scholars condemn London attack, but say some suicide bombings are OK
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | July 16, 2005 | Thomas Wagner

Posted on 07/16/2005 9:00:03 PM PDT by neverdem

Associated Press

LONDON -- Muslim leaders and scholars met at London's largest mosque to condemn the July 7 terrorist attacks in the British capital, saying the perpetrators violated the Quran by killing innocent civilians and that no one should consider them martyrs.

But the 22 imams and scholars stopped short of condemning all suicide bombings, saying those that target occupying forces in countries such as Israel and Iraq are sometimes justified.

"There should be a clear distinction between the suicide bombing of those who are trying to defend themselves from occupiers, which is something different from those who kill civilians, which is a big crime," said Sayed Mohammed Musawi, the head of the World Islamic League in London.

"The media in the West are mixing the difference between these two, and the result is that some of our Muslim youth are becoming more frustrated and they think that both are the same, even though Muslim law forbids killing any innocent lives," Musawi said.

He spoke at a news conference that the leaders and scholars held Friday at the London Central Mosque after reading their statement condemning the July 7 attacks, and everyone in the group appeared to agree with Musawi.

In their statement, which quoted the Quran, the imams and scholars said the terrorism in London by a small group of radicals had victimized Muslims around the world by raising "Islamophobia" among the general public.

"We are firmly of the view that these killings had absolutely no sanction in Islam, nor is there any justification whatsoever in our noble religion for such evil actions. It is our understanding that those who carried out the bombings in London should in no sense be regarded as martyrs," the statement said.

It urged all Muslims and non-Muslims to help authorities investigate the crime...

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1 posted on 07/16/2005 9:00:03 PM PDT by neverdem
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To: neverdem
But the 22 imams and scholars stopped short of condemning all suicide bombings, saying those that target occupying forces in countries such as Israel and Iraq are sometimes justified.

Why are these people still in England? Why do we have them in America still?

2 posted on 07/16/2005 9:01:29 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: neverdem

So English Muslems are saying it is OK to kill English troops in Iraq? nice, real nice...



3 posted on 07/16/2005 9:02:32 PM PDT by bnelson44 (Proud parent of a tanker!)
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To: John Filson

Why are these people still in England? Why do we have them in America still?
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Well if the US and the UK are not going to throw them out, why not start bombing their mosques??? Turnabout is fair play and maybe they might start getting the message the PC politcal crowd is really only a small handful of perverted people that put up with their murderous crap --- the citizenry can handle these mutant bottom-feeders nicely!


4 posted on 07/16/2005 9:05:49 PM PDT by EagleUSA
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To: neverdem

The Islamist bastards are NUTS!

There not ready to live in civilized society...
They should be kept isolated in their own Turd World hovels, until they learn what the smallest child must learn in kindergarten about "playing nice" with others..

We're going to have to kill HUGE numbers of the bastards to turn them away from their lunatic goals....

Semper Fi


5 posted on 07/16/2005 9:06:07 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: neverdem

Muslims- masters at moral relativism when it suits their purposes.


6 posted on 07/16/2005 9:07:21 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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To: neverdem

Al "Iced Tea" Gore, Bill "Is Is" Clinton, or John "Nuanced" Kerry ought to be spokesmen for these Muslims.


7 posted on 07/16/2005 9:11:07 PM PDT by dr_who_2
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Why are these people still in England? Why do we have them in America still?

Excellent question. Why don't you ask you Senators and Representatives? I am sure they have a good reason that us little people can't possibly understand.
8 posted on 07/16/2005 9:13:39 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: Wolfhound777

I get form letters back from my senators and representatives.


9 posted on 07/16/2005 9:14:35 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: neverdem

Bullsh*t! One more reason not to trust islam.


10 posted on 07/16/2005 9:15:16 PM PDT by lilylangtree
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To: John Filson

I don't get anything anymore. I quit giving them my money when they beg since they never deliver on any of the promises in their letters.


11 posted on 07/16/2005 9:16:43 PM PDT by Wolfhound777 (It's not our job to forgive them. Only God can do that. Our job is to arrange the meeting)
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To: EagleUSA
Turnabout is fair play and maybe they might start getting the message the PC politcal crowd is really only a small handful of perverted people that put up with their murderous crap --- the citizenry can handle these mutant bottom-feeders nicely!

No, no, no. Our elected leaders are to blame for this, their predacessors, and our judges. We need to clean political house with the upcoming elections.

Both countries, the UK and America, try to pass themselves off as free democratic nations. Let's use that power as it was intended. They can't stop the illegals from entering America, they won't throw out the fanatical Muslims, and they're selling us out to China in the form of a massive trade deficit and a technology drain. This crop of leaders isn't fit to fight.

12 posted on 07/16/2005 9:20:28 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: neverdem

Hmmm, what about the homicide bombing just a few days ago where all of those little children died?

I suppose the Imams are trying to say that doing it to troops occupying your country is justifiable, but so many of them kill innocent civilians.


13 posted on 07/16/2005 9:21:47 PM PDT by Theresawithanh (As long as Dean's the head of the D-N-C, it just looks better for the G-O-P!!)
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To: neverdem

I thought that according to Islam, suicide was one of the worst of sins.


14 posted on 07/16/2005 9:21:57 PM PDT by Taft in '52
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To: bnelson44; neverdem; MadIvan
So English Muslems are saying it is OK to kill English troops in Iraq? nice, real nice...

That is sedition and treason. Both are capital crimes.

15 posted on 07/16/2005 9:23:15 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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I am ashamed and disgusted that you would purposely misinterpret the words of Mohammed, May Peace be Upon Him. But Allah, the All Mericful has inspired me to straighten you out on a few points, infidel dog who shall serve me for all eternity in Paradise. (I'll need some good help, after servicing the 72 Virgins due me, should I choose the recommended suicide route and become a martyr.)

According the to q'uran (note politically correct spelling and not using the "the"), suicide is OK, and in fact is a good thing, if I can take a few or a lot of infidels along, because it will cause the remainder to move toward Allah with greater alacrity. For your own good, really.

Mohammed, May Peace be Upon Him, teaches us that there will be no peace until the world is totally Islam. Also, q'uran teaches us that it is good to appear "moderate" when the faithful are temporarily outnumbered by the infidels. In fact, q'uran tells us us it's OK to lie to infidels, that it is not necessary to keep a peace treaty with them, that their word is no good in court (sharia, of course), and that they have no civil rights.

But lucky for you, us "moderate" Muslims are not so bad. We think it's OK to keep infidels around as long as they have no rights and pay extra taxes, and then, and only then, either convert them, enslave them, or kill them.

So, infidel dog, what's it gonna be?

16 posted on 07/16/2005 9:23:36 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: John Filson
I am ashamed and disgusted that you would purposely misinterpret the words of Mohammed, May Peace be Upon Him. But Allah, the All Mericful has inspired me to straighten you out on a few points, infidel dog who shall serve me for all eternity in Paradise. (I'll need some good help, after servicing the 72 Virgins due me, should I choose the recommended suicide route and become a martyr.)

According the to q'uran (note politically correct spelling and not using the "the"), suicide is OK, and in fact is a good thing, if I can take a few or a lot of infidels along, because it will cause the remainder to move toward Allah with greater alacrity. For your own good, really.

Mohammed, May Peace be Upon Him, teaches us that there will be no peace until the world is totally Islam. Also, q'uran teaches us that it is good to appear "moderate" when the faithful are temporarily outnumbered by the infidels. In fact, q'uran tells us us it's OK to lie to infidels, that it is not necessary to keep a peace treaty with them, that their word is no good in court (sharia, of course), and that they have no civil rights.

But lucky for you, us "moderate" Muslims are not so bad. We think it's OK to keep infidels around as long as they have no rights and pay extra taxes, and then, and only then, either convert them, enslave them, or kill them.

So, infidel dog, what's it gonna be?

17 posted on 07/16/2005 9:24:36 PM PDT by Kenny Bunk
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To: Paleo Conservative

But you can be jailed in the UK, as Nick Griffin may be of the wacky BNP, for making angry talk about Muslims.


18 posted on 07/16/2005 9:26:15 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: neverdem
but say some suicide bombings are OK

So they would be okay if a Christian Martyrtm were to suddenly burst into the shopping area where their children are and blow muslem kids into lots of little pieces?

Oh, I get it ... it's only okay for THEM to kill the infidels.

19 posted on 07/16/2005 9:29:39 PM PDT by softwarecreator (Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
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To: neverdem

They're like a virus, infecting and spreading.


20 posted on 07/16/2005 9:32:06 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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