"Ugh, aren't you posting on the wrong forum."
No, unless this is an exercise in political cheerleading, rather than discussion amongst free thiking individuals. I tried a liberal forum and they banned me after a week.
"However, the cowardly pacifists anti-American liberals (Democrats) in this country will someday get a lot of Americans needlessly killed."
I think Bush and other interventionists already have. As Pat Buchanon said tonight, they are over here because we are over there. This would not have happened if we weren't pursuing 'empire.'
Many conservatives and independents are anti-interventionist. You may label them as liberals, but that kind of peer pressure doesn't work on independent thinkers. The republican party has gone neo-con, but it doesn't mean traditional conservatives will follow along. Pat said terrorism is like a cancer, and now it has metastisized because of the war in Iraq, which I don't believe had anything to do with terrorism originally. Now you have insurgents you call terrorists because they don't want us there. The line blurs. Anyone who opposes the US running their country is a terrorist or one who sympathizes? Now, many of you don't like Pat anymore, because he doesn't follow the neo-con line and wimp out when under pressure from neo-cons to cave in, but he has more sense than all the neo-cons put together. When someone says something that makes sense, listen, rather than trying to make your theories fit. This is a complicated issue that can't be resolved with one solution.
"Why? Because they want to bury their heads and hope the savage terrorists go away."
Some people pick and choose their battles, and do their best to support policies that don't provoke resentment, such as our constant meddling in other nations' affairs. I support them, regardless of their "party" or "political identity." This American empire building began LONG before terrorism and resistance to American global hegemony. What do we expect when we sent coverts overseas to overthrow people's governments and use any and all means to control other people's resources? People will resist and I don't blame them because I would do the same. They don't trust our government's motives, nor do I.
What you believe, and what the facts are, are two entirely different things. Fact: The first WTC bombing was done with Iraqi government involvement, at the very top. Fact: It was Mohammed Atta and crew who sent the anthrax through our postal system (be advised that I AM a postal worker, and this turning of my workplace into a battleground HAS affected me, personally). Fact: West Nile virus did NOT "just arrive" in the center of New York City (right across the river from the UN building, to be exact), from an inocuous flight from the Middle East, coincidentally at the same time that Saddam Hussein had been identified as having his scientists work on a West Nile Virus bioweapon. The CDC lied its *** off, to protect the bankrupt Clinton administration, as a whole lot of politicized government agencies did during that eight years of gross mismanagement.
The diatribes of one Patrick J. Buchanan, who is a populist, and certainly no conservative, should not influence any "truly independent thinker". I suggest you re-evaluate your position, do some critical analysis of what has happened, when it happened, and you can soon discover the real "why it happened", much as I have done...
the infowarrior
America has never, ever, pursued "empire"...
Pat said terrorism is like a cancer
He's right there, even a blind squirrel finds a nut now and then...and like a cancer, it must be removed...
because of the war in Iraq, which I don't believe had anything to do with terrorism originally
Perhaps you and Pat should read page 62 of the 9/11 Commission report.....
Now you have insurgents you call terrorists because they don't want us there.
Partially true. Most of the insurgents are not Iraqi, and THEY don't want us there, because if WE succeed in bringing democracy to Iraq (which is smack-dab, right in the middle of islamoland), they will soon be come like the dinosaurs, EXTINCT!
3,500 Americans paid with their lives on 9/11, for doing nothing more than showing up for work. I for one don't give a rat's a$$ if the rest of the world likes us or not, I WANT them to FEAR US! No nation on this earth has ever sued for peace from a position of weakness. Whether you like it or not, Bush has one thing right: it's payback time. These radical islamist cannot be bribed, bought, or even reasoned with; they must be destroyed. NO nation will know peace from terrorism until then...