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'NY Times' Sunday Preview: Profile of Linguist Who Is Framing Issues for the Democrats
editorandpublisher.com ^ | July 15, 2005 2:30 PM ET | Lesley Messer

Posted on 07/15/2005 2:53:32 PM PDT by bitt

NEW YORK The cover story by Matt Bai in the upcoming Sunday issue of The New York Times Magazine profiles the man some liberals allegedly consider a possible new “messiah” for the Democratic party, George Lakoff. An adviser to the party on “framing” issues, he wrote “Don't Think of an Elephant”-- a book about politics and language based on his own linguistic theories.

“Framing” is the process of choosing the best words to describe individual issues and characterize a debate. Bai hails Lakoff as the father of the concept. His ideas seemed to gain some success recently in putting the Bush social security proposals in peril. Next they will be severely tested in the upcoming fight over Supreme Court nominees.

Lakoff preaches that to understand language on the whole, one must first study how an individual would comprehend that language in terms of personal experience and thought processes. He also says that metaphors allow people to process abstract ideas.

And nobody better used this philosophy before, says Lakoff, than the Republicans. In the 2004 election, George W. Bush labeled John Kerry as a “flip flopper,” and repeated this throughout the duration of the campaign. He even put out an ad that featured Kerry windsurfing, back and forth, which hammered home this idea in a visual manner.

Democrats, on the other hand, tried to pin too many criticisms on Bush, none of which stuck. Thus, as Bai writes, “Bush was attacked. Kerry was framed.”

In the article, Lakoff says that Republicans are also skilled at using loaded language and repetition to create lasting concepts in our unconscious. This is largely in part to the work of Frank Luntz, the Republican pollster renowned for creating euphemism for conservative issues.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
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To: bitt

Lackoff . . . as Rush says, "Rhymes with."


21 posted on 07/15/2005 3:13:23 PM PDT by LS (CNN is the Amtrak of news)
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To: the_Watchman

You either don't know Democrats or don't know communists, to make the statements you did.


22 posted on 07/15/2005 3:13:28 PM PDT by QQQQQ
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To: FBD
"George Lakoff"

Sayyyy that rhymes with whackoff!!

...someone best tell Rush. :o)

23 posted on 07/15/2005 3:14:56 PM PDT by Landru (The bravery of being out of range...)
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To: bitt
Liberals have been trying to reframe the language for years. That's why we now have "undocumented immigrants" instead of "illegal aliens" and "homeless people" instead of "vagrants" or "bums". But, guess what? Unless you change what's being described, people don't fall for it. Nobody wants a "homeless person" sitting next to them on a subway any more than tney wanted a "bum" sitting next to them. Why? Because those two terms still ultimately describe the same thing.
24 posted on 07/15/2005 3:15:38 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: bitt

If it's in the Times, I don't believe it.


25 posted on 07/15/2005 3:16:32 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: bitt

I hope Matt Bai makes plenty of bucks off the suckers not wanting to look inward, or question their own self-regarded smarts.

Just like the person/people who sold the DNC on the idea "talk radio" was behind the lack of gains in 2002, coincidently just after some Democrats were complaining the DNC and McAuliffe were the problems.


26 posted on 07/15/2005 3:17:36 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Rastus

"Chomsky's a linguist, too. What is it with linguistics?"


Lakoff and Chomsky are cunning linguists. ;-)


27 posted on 07/15/2005 3:18:42 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: ken21
“Framing” is the process of choosing the best words to describe individual issues and characterize a debate. Bai hails Lakoff as the father of the concep

Bai is a suckup and Lakoff an intellectual scam artist. The concept of cognitive framing is an old and elementary one. Actually "reframing ' should be the word used, as all ideas have frames to begin with, whether Goerge Lakoff is smart enough to recognize them or not.

Cognitive reframing is a therapeutic psychological technique wellknown to clinicians and at least forty years old, but with a history going back at least to William James.

You could also easily trace it to the ancient Stoic school of philosophy in Greece, which taught, "it is not the event itself but that which I think about the event, which makes all the difference."

As usual, the Slimes feeds recycled dreck to its slobbering readers and "frames" it as cutting edge news!

28 posted on 07/15/2005 3:21:56 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: Rastus
What is it with linguistics?

It goes back to the old thing, "if you tell a lie often enough, it will become the truth."

29 posted on 07/15/2005 3:24:44 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (We did not lose in Vietnam. We left.)
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To: bitt

Language alone is not enough to sell people on bad ideas. Except for really stupid people.


30 posted on 07/15/2005 3:30:41 PM PDT by finnman69 (cum puella incedit minore medio corpore sub quo manifestus globus, inflammare animos)
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To: mware

you mean he is the Dem's Karl Rove????

No he's the dem's Chomsky.


31 posted on 07/15/2005 3:33:18 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Rastus
Chomsky's a linguist, too. What is it with linguistics?

Simply the latest fad for fulfilling Orwell's "1984". Words are symbols for thought or the way we express our thoughts. Therefore, if the words are confused the hope is to confuse our thoughts.

There are three primary ways we learn. Visual - seeing mind pictures of what we are reading or being told. Auditory - more in tune with hearing what we are learning. Feelings - an emotional involvement with what we are learning, normally by relating to past experiences. Obviously, the more senses involved the more we retain. That is what they are talking about when they say "framing the issue", involving as many senses as possible in a personally relevant way.

Conservatives know this naturally. It is the bases for sales and advertising, a key part of free enterprise. Liberals know it, too, as they use it to sell their lies about their intentions. The truth is they have been using these techniques forever.

All this new linguistics bs is another attempt to explain to themselves why they continue to lose. They don't blame it on the message, they blame it on their inability to "get their message out". They are just trying to get another running start to sell their lies, to re-energize their base who have been getting so depressed they are beginning to stray from the reservation.

32 posted on 07/15/2005 3:40:31 PM PDT by Mind-numbed Robot (Not all that needs to be done needs to be done by the government.)
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To: bitt

The NY Times is late on this issue. The SF Chronicle had this story about 6 months ago, Rush talked about it extensively. He is a prof at UC Berkeley.


33 posted on 07/15/2005 3:46:32 PM PDT by Uncle Hal
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To: bitt

Herr Goebels was a cunning linguist too.


34 posted on 07/15/2005 3:50:36 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1 (Lock-n-load!)
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To: bitt

Is he a snake handler? That has to be his main criteria when handling the dims.


35 posted on 07/15/2005 3:54:43 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: LS
Lackoff . . . as Rush says, "Rhymes with."

{{{{snicker}}}}

36 posted on 07/15/2005 3:56:00 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: bitt

He forgot to mention that the Republicans are also skilled supporting issues that the majority of Americans will vote for....

*giggle*


37 posted on 07/15/2005 4:04:50 PM PDT by republican2005
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To: bitt; All
“Framing” is the process of choosing the best words to describe individual issues and characterize a debate. Bai hails Lakoff as the father of the concept.

Oh, really? I thought the ancient Greeks and Romans covered this in their teaching of "rhetoric" and "oratory" thousands of years ago.

38 posted on 07/15/2005 4:07:51 PM PDT by tarheelswamprat (This tagline space for rent - cheap!)
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To: mware
No, this "guru" is not the Democrat's Karl Rove. This guy deals in linguistics and cosmetics. He does not deal in basic facts and genuine social movements. Therefore, this is a man who is offering trivial solutions for fundamental problems.

That makes him a near-perfect guru for the Democrats. It also makes him a distinctly minor threat to Karl Rove and the Republicans. (Frank Luntz was one of my professors. Smart guy, though a bit of a loose cannon.)

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "The Fry Cook Rule for the Supreme Court"

39 posted on 07/15/2005 4:34:27 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Will President Bush appoint a Justice who obeys the Constitution? I give 85-15 odds on yes.)
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To: bitt
Liberals have been "framing issues" for decades. That's why we have "a woman's right to choose" instead of abortion; that's why we have "racism" instead of equality before the law; that's why we have "sexism" instead of an understanding of natural differences between men and women.

A little more Orwellian Doublespeak isn't going to help them. Everyone knows the game they're playing.

40 posted on 07/15/2005 4:51:06 PM PDT by Reactionary
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