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Galley Girl: Questions for Bernard Goldberg
Time Online Edition ^ | Thursday, Jul. 14, 2005 | Andrea Sachs

Posted on 07/15/2005 1:03:15 PM PDT by texas_mrs

Bernard Goldberg has been on a spirited crusade against the left for three books now —the number one New York Times bestseller Bias, the bestselling Arrogance, and his latest book, 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America. Goldberg, an Emmy-winning journalist, is a former correspondent on the CBS program 48 Hours. Galley Girl spoke by phone to him in Miami.

GG: You used to be a liberal. What happened?

BG: What happened? Liberals happened. I want to make a distinction between your run-of-the-mill liberals and the cultural elite liberals, who really speak for liberalism in America today. Most liberals obviously are decent people. They go to work every day, they care about their families, maybe they give money to charity. Fine. I have no problem whatsoever with anybody in that group. But the people who are speaking for liberals in the world of politics, the chairman of the Democratic Party, Howard Dean; or the cultural liberals, like Michael Moore; the Hollywood elites who confuse intelligence with celebrity—they think because they’re famous, they’re also smart. I listen to them and I say, I don’t want to be part of that group anymore. Even when I agree with them, which is more often than you would think, I no longer want to be seen as being part of that group. It isn’t because of their politics, which I think are misguided; it’s because they come off as snobby and elitest. I think they look down their nose at ordinary Americans.

GG: How did you compile your list?

BG: I really think that there are a lot of people out there, liberals as well as conservatives, Democrats as well as Republicans, who say that this country has just gotten too angry in recent years, too nasty and certainly too vulgar. There’s this tendency to believe that this stuff just happens in societies—societies just evolve; nobody’s to blame. I don’t believe that. I think people are to blame. These aren’t the 100 worst people in America; they’re 100 people who in my view are screwing things up. And some of the names are there for fun. I mean, Courtney Love...

GG: You called her a “ho”! That’s serious.

BG: I called her a “ho.”

GG: What’s a “ho” as opposed to a whore?

BG: There’s a world of difference. You know the stuff that she’s done. I figured one word for Courtney Love ought to take care of it.

GG: Somehow, I’m not amazed that Howard Stern is on your list.

BG: The reason he’s on the list because he’s supposed to be a shock jock. Here’s the bad news: he doesn’t shock anybody anymore. Thanks to Howard...this kind of sludge just washes over us. And that’s the danger. That’s the serious part of the book. I’m not the Church Lady. I don’t care what people say in private; I don’t care what they do in private. But we’re talking about the public arena.

GG: But when you say that we’ve come a long way from “Frankly my dear, I don’t give a damn” causing a big ruckus, that a lot of us miss that America, aren’t you causing the problem, too, with your own ranting at people?

BG: Ranting is your word. I would say this: I don’t call anybody a Nazi. I don’t call anybody a fascist. I don’t drop the F bomb on anybody. But I can give you a list as long as your arm of my friends on the left who do that all the time.

GG: You inveigh against rap music, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton. Don’t you worry about being called a racist?

BG: I’m glad you’re bringing that up. I write about race in this book with a great deal of sadness. When I was in high school and college in the ‘60s, the civil rights movement was the most important movement and the most moral movement of my time, and of the 20th century, for that matter. Martin Luther King, in my opinion, was one of the five most important, decent Americans since our founding as a nation. What happens after Martin Luther King gets assassinated? We get Jesse Jackson, we get Al Sharpton. If the implication is that you can’t write about Jesse Jackson or Al Sharpton without worrying about being called a racist, well, we’ve got a big problem in this country.

GG: What if somebody said to you, are you feigning outrage to sell books?

BG: The answer is no. Anybody who knows me knows that I’m incapable—and I mean, like physically incapable—of writing stuff I don’t believe. My fingers won’t hit the keys.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 100people; bernardgoldberg; bias; booktour; mediabias; screwingupamerica; timemagazine

1 posted on 07/15/2005 1:03:15 PM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: texas_mrs

I haven't read this new book. I thought Bias was a pretty good whistle-blower type book (though nothing we didn't already realize). But this, to me, seems to be pandering to his readers, running down Democrats for the sake of selling some books to people who don't like Democrats. I won't waste my money here.


2 posted on 07/15/2005 1:07:20 PM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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To: SittinYonder

I'm told that he lists from both side of the political spectrum and that's it's funny...


3 posted on 07/15/2005 1:12:06 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: texas_mrs

A delicious book, engagingly written, cheerfully recommended to Freepdom. I'm halfway through, wishing it would go on and on and on.


4 posted on 07/15/2005 1:12:13 PM PDT by T'wit (The main difference between Ted Bundy and other bioethicists is, Bundy knew he was doing evil.)
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To: SittinYonder
I flipped through it at lunch. The Courtney Love one word explanation if really funny when you see it in context. It made me laugh.
5 posted on 07/15/2005 1:12:21 PM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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To: texas_mrs
GG: You inveigh against rap music, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton. Don’t you worry about being called a racist?

Liberals like Galley Girl, even on the rare occasions they do disagree with the likes of Sharpton or Jackson, would never admit it publicly for fear of being labeled a 'racist'.

It's one of their greatest fears.

6 posted on 07/15/2005 1:13:01 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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To: nikos1121
I'm told that he lists from both side of the political spectrum and that's it's funny...

All I know of it is from an interview I saw on FOX News with him the other day and a couple of things (such as this) that I've read. He fumbled answering all the questions about it and appeared very awkward.

I certainly could be wrong about it.

7 posted on 07/15/2005 1:14:18 PM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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To: SittinYonder
You are assuming he only runs down Democrats. That is not so. He's describing anyone who is trashing America, regardless of politics. And that's the way an honest reporter should approach any subject.

Congressman Billybob

Latest column: "The Fry Cook Rule for the Supreme Court"

8 posted on 07/15/2005 1:15:00 PM PDT by Congressman Billybob (Will President Bush appoint a Justice who obeys the Constitution? I give 85-15 odds on yes.)
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To: texas_mrs

I don't know who this guy is but if he is being promoted by the Times, he is probably one of them and they are serving him up to conservatives.


9 posted on 07/15/2005 1:16:26 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: Congressman Billybob
You are assuming he only runs down Democrats.

Yes I am. Everything I've seen and read only mentions Hollywood celebrities and Democrats. As I said, I could be wrong about it, and I said up front I hadn't read it. Still, it won't make my list of books to read.

10 posted on 07/15/2005 1:18:12 PM PDT by SittinYonder (America is the Last Beach)
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To: SittinYonder
> running down Democrats for the sake of selling some books to people who don't like Democrats

I presume he wants to make money. That's the free market. It's why things get done that need doing. I'm working through his list and I find that so far, the author has been right on target every time, and every time he gives you more than your money's worth.

11 posted on 07/15/2005 1:22:00 PM PDT by T'wit (The main difference between Ted Bundy and other bioethicists is, Bundy knew he was doing evil.)
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To: texas_mrs
BG: "I really think that there are a lot of people out there... say that this country has just gotten too angry in recent years, too nasty, and certainly too vulgar."

I fully agree with him here. There is a lot more nastiness and vulgarity in society in general, on the air, on the net, and just in general conversation. I know I'm guilty of it....

12 posted on 07/15/2005 1:23:19 PM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: Jim_Curtis
Copy and Paste from Wikipedia:

Bernard Goldberg was a reporter with CBS for nearly thirty years. He is an multi-Emmy Award winner.

In 2001, CBS had a major falling out with Goldberg as he alleged a pattern of bias in reporting in his book Bias: A CBS Insider Exposes How the Media Distort the News. One of his main targets was Dan Rather. Goldberg followed Bias by the sequel Arrogance: Rescuing America From the Media Elite.

However, Goldberg believes that there is a liberal distortion which is not usually conscious. Rather, he claims that these views are so entrenched into people's thinking in these circles, and they so rarely encounter contrary views among their peers, that they think they are "normal", i.e. are blind to their own biases. Many of his critics argue that this is similar to how neo-conservatives whom he supports often view the world and that therefore he is ignoring certain biases in his own political camp.
13 posted on 07/15/2005 1:27:25 PM PDT by texas_mrs
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To: T'wit
A delicious book, engagingly written, cheerfully recommended to Freepdom

T'wit!!! it's so nice to see your post...haven't read you since d.c... maybe i will read this book..have you read "hollywood, interrupted"? how have you been?

14 posted on 07/15/2005 1:30:19 PM PDT by wildwood
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To: sauropod

mark


15 posted on 07/15/2005 1:31:51 PM PDT by sauropod (Polite political action is about as useful as a miniskirt in a convent -- Claire Wolfe)
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To: texas_mrs

I'm reading this book now, and it's excellent. He nails folks on both sides, but especially elitist liberals and media types. I'm down to #30 - hope to finish it this weekend.


16 posted on 07/15/2005 1:44:37 PM PDT by Virginia8384
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To: texas_mrs

He seems kinda fishy to me but maybe I'm wrong.


17 posted on 07/15/2005 1:57:10 PM PDT by Jim_Curtis
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To: Mr. Mojo

Believe me, a great many of my Republican-hating Dem friends, co-workers, and family members despise Jackson and Sharpton. Make no mistake about that. However there are numerous libs in the media who feel that Jackson and Sharpton are untouchable. I read comments to that effect a while back by some liberal nitwit in a Madison, Wisconsin paper who declared that Rush Limbaugh is a racist because Rush lampoons Jackson at every opportunity. This lib tolerance of scoundrels like Jackson and Sharpton bodes ill for everyone including the people they (Jackson and Sharpton) claim to represent.


18 posted on 07/15/2005 2:04:12 PM PDT by driftless ( For life-long happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: wildwood
Well, hi to you, Wildwood! Good to hear from you! I'm still a frequent Freeper, but who knows where you'll find me in these vast territories of the Free Republic.

No puffery from me on the Goldberg book. I bought BIAS but have not yet read it, so this is my first encounter with Mr. Goldberg -- and I am impressed. He is a smooth, perceptive writer with a quick wit. I'm getting more than my money's worth.

19 posted on 07/15/2005 2:09:12 PM PDT by T'wit (The main difference between Ted Bundy and other bioethicists is, Bundy knew he was doing evil.)
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