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A little birdie told me what the Rove thing is all about.

Posted on 07/14/2005 1:50:45 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

Don’t ask me, because you know I won’t tell you how I came across this information.

Here is the scoop.

This is all about the Supreme Court.

With the knowledge that Rove was Matthew Cooper’s background source regarding the Plame incident, no matter the fact that no laws were broken, the Democrats leaped upon the matter as a way for Democrats and the MSM to possibly prevent Bush from changing the makeup of the Supreme Court. Under normal circumstances, Democrats cannot stop Bush from reshaping the Supreme Court, and that has Democrats terrified. They cannot sustain a Filibuster without Frist invoking the Nuclear Option on them, so they only have one last option, which is now underway.

The Democrats must demonize Bush to the degree that they can then begin their long-awaited impeachment articles, with the MSM in tow. If Congress can introduce articles of impeachment against Bush, then the MSM will demand that Bush postpone any nominations to the Supreme Court until the matter is decided. It is the only hope they have left of preventing a Conservative Supreme Court from taking hold, and if they do not accomplish this, the flow of money into Democratic coffers will stop instantaneously.

Next week, you will begin to hear Democrats suggesting that if Bush does not fire Karl Rove, then he is guilty of “Obstruction of Justice” and “Lying to the American People” in order to protect a friend. The Media will play along dutifully, because it was there idea in the first place.

Forget about Judith Miller.

Because the Special Prosecutor has asked the White House not to discuss the matter, no one will be able to inform Miller or the NY Times on how Miller should lie to save herself. Without that knowledge, the Times will not let her testify at all. They are paying her to be silent, and it is they who are actually guilty of ‘Obstruction of Justice’ Miller knows who the leaker is, and you all know who I believe that person to be.

What you all are about to see, is the most coordinated, vicious attack ever in the history of Politics against this administration, because those involved have everything at stake. Without control of the Supreme Court, the Liberal agenda is dead for the next 30-40 years. All of their Environmental nonsense, Abortion, Private Property, Affirmative Action and Civil Rights issues go right down the tubes.

The Bush Administration is aware of what is to come, and might be able to prevent it with a little ‘inside baseball’ but the looniest on the left will attempt this no matter what the outcome.

Expect editorials next week, arguing whether or not it is fair for a president who “stole the first election” and won the second election by the “smallest margin of any incumbent President” who is “embroiled in a National Security Scandal” to be deciding on the makeup of the Supreme Court. At the same time, Liberal Senators will begin to suggest that Conformation hearings on anyone Bush selects should be postponed until the investigations are over. Unfortunately for our side, they have an alley in one Arlen Specter. They will be leaning heavily on him to go along with delayed hearings. Specter is already angry with Bush over the Stem-cell research issue.

Will it work? No. Why? Because Bush understands the law, and also understands (with Rove’s help) that no matter how loud and long the Democrats scream, they and the MSM really cant do anything about the Supreme Court, but can effect public opinion. Bush, by telling Republicans to shut up about his choice, has set precedent for when he tells (by his Supreme Court selections) the Democrats the same thing. If he ignores both sides, he can just choose who he wants, and that is exactly what he will do.

So get ready for an ugly, ugly Summer and Fall. Don’t expect to hear much from Bush on Rove, or the Courts after he makes his selections. Republicans in Congress will also be silent (except Specter and Hagel) and will not risk their own re-elections and legacies to side with Democrats this time round.

So there it is, take it or leave it. I wont answer any questions about how or where I got the information, so don’t ask me.

-PD


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KEYWORDS: cialeak; josephwilson; judithmiller; karlrove; liars; liberals; losers; medialeakers; pukindogsdaman; valerieplame
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To: Pukin Dog
Unfortunately for our side, they have an alley in one Arlen Specter. They will be leaning heavily on him to go along with delayed hearings.

And the President and Karl Rove only have themselves to blame for McSpecter.............

481 posted on 07/14/2005 8:00:57 PM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: Pukin Dog

If he's Moran, you're Gregory.


482 posted on 07/14/2005 8:01:32 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: federal

Did that...several times.


483 posted on 07/14/2005 8:02:12 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: Gunrunner2

It was intended to, but I don't know if it did or not. The person I wrote that to is a sissy-boy and more or less ignored everything I wrote.


484 posted on 07/14/2005 8:02:42 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: RobFromGa

Thank you Rob. Hear Hear.


486 posted on 07/14/2005 8:03:17 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: valkyry
If I knew how to CCP, your advice would help a lot. LOL

Many thanks for your proffered help, but when it comes to doing this kind of thing, I'm totally at a loss. :-(

487 posted on 07/14/2005 8:05:02 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
You aren't worth a bucket of warm spit and your opinions are about as valid and interesting, as those over at DU!

Three cheers!

488 posted on 07/14/2005 8:05:26 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Pukin Dog
considering the stuff I was told, I think I actually soft-peddled it.

OK so your little birdie was even more out of breath than you were...so what exactly do we do with that piece of information? Since we don't know what make and model your little birdie is, I'd say not a whole lot.

There is no doubt that Bush is going to select Scalia-type judges. None whatsoever.

Bush has said some nice things about AG, the AG. He's not a Scalia type - we'll see who Bush appoints, we'll see. I'm not expecting miracles.

489 posted on 07/14/2005 8:06:02 PM PDT by 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten (Is your problem ignorance or apthy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: nopardons

Some of these people on here, a person would think they were at the DU. It's like rammin' your head a against a brick wall trying to get through to them.


490 posted on 07/14/2005 8:06:30 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: Types_with_Fist

Just a thought.............you neither know nor understand a thing about politics and what's going on .


491 posted on 07/14/2005 8:07:00 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ladyinred

Many thanks! :-)


492 posted on 07/14/2005 8:07:40 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: iconoclast; Pukin Dog; All
He's not "innocent",

Oh yes he is until he is convicted in a court of law, which will never happen and you know it.

You stating that he isn't makes you look stupid.

furthermore he was stupid, furthermore his not-real-bright boss compounded the problem by opening his yap.

Yeah, right."Furthermore," your same old lame Bush bashing crap that you spew at every opportunity.

And this "stupid" guy turned the Democrats into mush in the election, and gained us the House, the Senate, and the White House, all very much to the discomfort of you and your other DU type supporters..

Neither one of these arrogant jerks are worth 2-3 Supremes

The only arrogant jerk around here is you, and you aren't worthy to shine their shoes.

They are waiting for your post over at the DU.

493 posted on 07/14/2005 8:09:16 PM PDT by bill1952 ("All that we do is done with an eye towards something else.")
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To: pbrown
It's like rammin' your head a against a brick wall trying to get through to them.

Or like talking to my kids.

494 posted on 07/14/2005 8:09:27 PM PDT by Protect the Bill of Rights
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To: pbrown
Yes, true, and it's getting worse by the day.

Sometimes it's VERY difficult to tell the difference between DU and FR, when just reading replies.

495 posted on 07/14/2005 8:09:42 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: PFC

If he did, it was because this guy was insidious and called him under false pretenses. Rove trys to cover his behind to tell him not to touch it...Wilson is bad news, Cooper flips, even though he had a waiver for 18 months?
Rove is not the one...trust me. Someone is being heavily protected, someone that perhaps many have been to jail for(or close to it), someone who can make a certain journalist (who may think it's safer in prison), clam up.
Someone who wouldn't hesitate to set up suicides, auto accidents or disappearances.

Who might that be. Some have said Miller herself threw info out...too neat, doesn't make sense.


496 posted on 07/14/2005 8:10:22 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Ignorance is a condition. Stupidity is a strategy.)
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To: pbrown
Yes, but I am trying something new starting now--not responding. Seriously, I have had enough head-bashing just today, I can't take the maroons who when you post information that refutes their dopey points they reply with one-sentence snarky comebacks that only prove they've got nothing with which to argue. If I get anymore of those, I'll just leave the field victorious, even if the loser of the argument pretends he won. Because HE knows the truth.

Some people aren't in it for the intellectual debate; they have empty emotional lives and need to feel some kind of control over others. They can't do it with facts, so they use emotional triggers to get reactions. So, once they drop the facts, I drop out.

497 posted on 07/14/2005 8:10:32 PM PDT by Dr.Hilarious (If Al Qaeda took over the judiciary and mainstream media, would we know the difference?)
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To: eddie65
>>So you're saying that people in the State Dept. and the CIA would leak classified information to the NY Times in order to get Karl Rove?<<

Actually, they would attack Rove to get at the president.

Just some info: Confidential, Secret and Top Secret are the only security clearances. There are "caveats" that allow access to certain info/programs. There are no special super-secret White House clearances/caveats.
498 posted on 07/14/2005 8:10:54 PM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: iconoclast

Let me guess, you aren't a fan of the President?


499 posted on 07/14/2005 8:13:08 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: PFC

Wrong......

President Bush never said that.


500 posted on 07/14/2005 8:13:25 PM PDT by Shortstop7
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