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A little birdie told me what the Rove thing is all about.

Posted on 07/14/2005 1:50:45 PM PDT by Pukin Dog

Don’t ask me, because you know I won’t tell you how I came across this information.

Here is the scoop.

This is all about the Supreme Court.

With the knowledge that Rove was Matthew Cooper’s background source regarding the Plame incident, no matter the fact that no laws were broken, the Democrats leaped upon the matter as a way for Democrats and the MSM to possibly prevent Bush from changing the makeup of the Supreme Court. Under normal circumstances, Democrats cannot stop Bush from reshaping the Supreme Court, and that has Democrats terrified. They cannot sustain a Filibuster without Frist invoking the Nuclear Option on them, so they only have one last option, which is now underway.

The Democrats must demonize Bush to the degree that they can then begin their long-awaited impeachment articles, with the MSM in tow. If Congress can introduce articles of impeachment against Bush, then the MSM will demand that Bush postpone any nominations to the Supreme Court until the matter is decided. It is the only hope they have left of preventing a Conservative Supreme Court from taking hold, and if they do not accomplish this, the flow of money into Democratic coffers will stop instantaneously.

Next week, you will begin to hear Democrats suggesting that if Bush does not fire Karl Rove, then he is guilty of “Obstruction of Justice” and “Lying to the American People” in order to protect a friend. The Media will play along dutifully, because it was there idea in the first place.

Forget about Judith Miller.

Because the Special Prosecutor has asked the White House not to discuss the matter, no one will be able to inform Miller or the NY Times on how Miller should lie to save herself. Without that knowledge, the Times will not let her testify at all. They are paying her to be silent, and it is they who are actually guilty of ‘Obstruction of Justice’ Miller knows who the leaker is, and you all know who I believe that person to be.

What you all are about to see, is the most coordinated, vicious attack ever in the history of Politics against this administration, because those involved have everything at stake. Without control of the Supreme Court, the Liberal agenda is dead for the next 30-40 years. All of their Environmental nonsense, Abortion, Private Property, Affirmative Action and Civil Rights issues go right down the tubes.

The Bush Administration is aware of what is to come, and might be able to prevent it with a little ‘inside baseball’ but the looniest on the left will attempt this no matter what the outcome.

Expect editorials next week, arguing whether or not it is fair for a president who “stole the first election” and won the second election by the “smallest margin of any incumbent President” who is “embroiled in a National Security Scandal” to be deciding on the makeup of the Supreme Court. At the same time, Liberal Senators will begin to suggest that Conformation hearings on anyone Bush selects should be postponed until the investigations are over. Unfortunately for our side, they have an alley in one Arlen Specter. They will be leaning heavily on him to go along with delayed hearings. Specter is already angry with Bush over the Stem-cell research issue.

Will it work? No. Why? Because Bush understands the law, and also understands (with Rove’s help) that no matter how loud and long the Democrats scream, they and the MSM really cant do anything about the Supreme Court, but can effect public opinion. Bush, by telling Republicans to shut up about his choice, has set precedent for when he tells (by his Supreme Court selections) the Democrats the same thing. If he ignores both sides, he can just choose who he wants, and that is exactly what he will do.

So get ready for an ugly, ugly Summer and Fall. Don’t expect to hear much from Bush on Rove, or the Courts after he makes his selections. Republicans in Congress will also be silent (except Specter and Hagel) and will not risk their own re-elections and legacies to side with Democrats this time round.

So there it is, take it or leave it. I wont answer any questions about how or where I got the information, so don’t ask me.

-PD


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KEYWORDS: cialeak; josephwilson; judithmiller; karlrove; liars; liberals; losers; medialeakers; pukindogsdaman; valerieplame
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To: rlmorel
Anything you read in the Onion or Scrappleface can pass the "sniff test".

TRUE...(esp. last sat. S'face :), This so-called "Rove" affair, is a tempest in a teacup. The liberals' play-book is dead/flaccid, LMSM, has been throughly discredited ...it has no real new ideas/only "class warfare/hatred"...hardly a plank to run on in '06/'08.

This is the 'Rats only chance, "the Gang of 14" agreement won't hold, GWB will get 3 of 4 USSC Justices. The 'RATs Congresscritters know this, they're terrified.

341 posted on 07/14/2005 5:17:04 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
I think you are largely correct but some of what you say is overblown - the left's agenda is dead for the next 30-40 years if Bush gets 1 or 2 SC appts? - I don't think so.

Oh? How long has it been since Rowe V. Wade? How long since the first Affirmative Action ruling? The EPA? It will take just as long to revive them as it will have taken to kill them. All Bush need do, is select a couple of folks in their early 50s. That will insure that the court could live through a couple of Democrat presidents if need be.

342 posted on 07/14/2005 5:17:20 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Congressman Billybob
U got M.
343 posted on 07/14/2005 5:18:04 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: PFC
The RATS are calling for firing and resignations on a daily basis so it would be impossible for the country to get back to real national concerns if Rove was removed . If the Pres fired anybody for any reason, the RATS would just ladder up to the next person and keep the circus going. Also, Rove broke no law but I would think Joe Wilson did when he lied in his report about his Niger visit as well as saying that Cheney sent him there, and that his wife was not responsible for him being chosen for the trip when there is proof that she was. I wonder if it will take a citizen's arrest to nail that liar since he seems immune from normal legal procedures.
344 posted on 07/14/2005 5:18:27 PM PDT by mountainfolk (God bless President George Bush)
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To: PFC
You've been on FR this long and still have the comprehension of a DUer?

You imagine that you know MORE than the president and Rove do? NOT ON THIS UNIVERSE.

345 posted on 07/14/2005 5:18:27 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: pbrown
You know, if you wear thongs long enough, they will cut off vital oxygen flow to your brain.

I always light up a Red Auerbach cigar when I start getting replies like this. ;-)

346 posted on 07/14/2005 5:19:49 PM PDT by iconoclast (If you only read ONE book this year, make sure it's Colonel David Hunt's !!!)
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To: BoBToMatoE

I think that there may be a link on the Hugh Hewitt web site. I know that he talked about it. Evidently there were thirty some major newspapers that signed Amicus briefs.


347 posted on 07/14/2005 5:21:54 PM PDT by Eva
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To: skinkinthegrass
GWB will get 3 of 4 USSC Justices. The 'RATs Congresscritters know this, they're terrified.

And a blighted piece of NH property to build a swell new dig for the next Constitutional Convention courtesy of Justice Souter

348 posted on 07/14/2005 5:22:42 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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To: nopardons
You imagine that you know MORE than the president and Rove do?

I'm glad someone finally said that. We should never worry, until THEY DO.

349 posted on 07/14/2005 5:25:15 PM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: coloradan
What do you say about #2 and #3?

I don't even understand #2.

As for #3, I think I'll stick with Occam's razor.

350 posted on 07/14/2005 5:25:28 PM PDT by iconoclast (If you only read ONE book this year, make sure it's Colonel David Hunt's !!!)
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To: hispanarepublicana

mmmm. Football!


351 posted on 07/14/2005 5:26:54 PM PDT by calenel (The Democratic Party is the Socialist Mafia. It is a Criminal Enterprise.)
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To: Congressman Billybob
Five, if Scalia moves up to Chief Justice.

Would you calculate that out for me, Congressman?

352 posted on 07/14/2005 5:28:49 PM PDT by iconoclast (If you only read ONE book this year, make sure it's Colonel David Hunt's !!!)
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To: ravingnutter

I don't understand why, if Plame wasn't a covert operative, and it was not illegal for Karl Rove to tell Matt Cooper that she worked for the CIA, Judith Miller needs to protect herself from the revelation that she revealed this information. That doesn't make sense to me. Help.


353 posted on 07/14/2005 5:29:17 PM PDT by eddie65
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To: Archon of the East
GWB will get 3 of or 4 USSC Justices. The 'RATs Congresscritters know this, they're terrified...And a blighted piece of NH property to build a swell new dig for the next Constitutional Convention courtesy of Justice Souter

HA! ..little did he know! :D

354 posted on 07/14/2005 5:29:51 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you :^)
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To: iconoclast
I only mentioned it out of concern for your health. You are starting to symptoms of asphyxia. You're rambling on and on about a non-issue concerning Bush/Rove. I didn't know you hated them so much.

Rove is innocent.

355 posted on 07/14/2005 5:32:46 PM PDT by processing please hold (Islam and Christianity do not mix ----9-11 taught us that)
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To: nopardons

Please refer to post #346.


356 posted on 07/14/2005 5:33:23 PM PDT by iconoclast (If you only read ONE book this year, make sure it's Colonel David Hunt's !!!)
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To: iconoclast

I think that if you cannot take the heat get out of the kitchen. If you do not pay attention to the truth and just listen to the MSM DNC you deserve to be chastised for your negativity and nastiness brought on by overdosing on leftist propaganda.


357 posted on 07/14/2005 5:33:33 PM PDT by samantha ("Cheer up the grownups are in charge")
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To: iconoclast
He didn't leak.

Rove IS innocent of what he is being accused of doing.

You claim that President Bush isn't very bright. Okay, let's see..................a "not very bright" man graduated from Yale and Harvard, was the Governor of Texas, has twice been elected to be the president of the USA and thus far, has gotten MORE Conservative things done/ passed, than Reagan ever dreamed of, and is winning a two front war on terrorism. Yeah, riiiiiiiiiiiiight, President Bush is really not very brought at all; as opposed to you, you a little nobody nothing, who sits behind his keyboard, posting utter drivel to a web site.

You don't understand politics at all, you don't know how things work in D.C., you are mordantly clueless concerning how Rove and the president should handle the Rove thingy, and you don't even know what 1) the law about covert agents states 2) what Rove did 3) what Wilson and his Dem cohorts are doing.

You aren't worth a bucket of warm spit and your opinions are about as valid and interesting, as those over at DU!

358 posted on 07/14/2005 5:33:33 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: iconoclast

If Rove knew, as a result of his security clearance, Plame's identity, and leaked it, then he's "the source." But, if a reporter talks to some government official and says "I hear that Wilson's wife Plame works at the CIA" and that makes it to Rove, and he tells Cooper this, he (Rove) isn't "the source" - it's whoever told the reporter. That's #2.


360 posted on 07/14/2005 5:34:36 PM PDT by coloradan (Hence, etc.)
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