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Joseph Wilson Calls on Bush to Fire Rove [barf alert]
WashPost ^ | 7-14-05 | AP

Posted on 07/14/2005 5:41:16 AM PDT by OXENinFLA

WASHINGTON -- Former Ambassador Joseph Wilson called on President Bush Thursday to fire deputy chief of staff Karl Rove, saying Bush's top-level aide engaged in an "abuse of power" by discussing Wilson's wife's job with a reporter.

Wilson decried what he called a White House "stonewall" in the wake of revelations that Rove, a longtime Bush confidant, was involved in the leak to the news media that Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, was a CIA officer.

Bush said Wednesday that he would not comment on discussions that blew her cover because it is the subject of an ongoing investigation by special counsel Patrick Fitzgerald. White House press secretary Scott McClellan said, however, the president still has confidence in Rove.

Wilson, in an interview broadcast Thursday on NBC's "Today" show, said he thinks the White House's posture in this controversy represents a continuing "cover-up of the web of lies that underpin the justification for going to war in Iraq."

Wilson was asked about statements by Rove's defenders noting that an e-mail describing Rove's conversation with Time reporter Matthew Cooper indicated that Rove did not specifically mention Valerie Plame by name.

"My wife's name is Mrs. Joseph Wilson," he replied. "It is Mrs. Valerie Wilson. He named her. He identified her," Wilson said. "So that argument doesn't stand the smell test ... What I do know is that Mr. Rove is talking to the press and he is saying things like my wife is fair game. That's an outrage. That's an abuse of power."

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: cialeak; joewilson; plame; wilson
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To: Steve_Seattle
The non sequitor behind this whole "scandal" is the premise that Rove's mentioning that Wilson's wife played a role in getting him the Niger assignment somehow "smears," "threatens," or "punishes" Wilson. How does providing a relatively innocuous piece of true information constitute a "smear"?

Well, as the saying goes, the truth hurts! I agree with you. This whole vendetta theme Joe Wilson is going on, I think, once again comes back to his (Wilson's) ludicrously overinflated sense of importance. Right, Karl Rove was sitting in the White House plotting how to get his archenemy, Joe Wilson. In Wilson's dreams, maybe!

As I've said before, I think the real issue is why someone as unbalanced, untruthful, and narcissistic as Wilson should have access to any sensitive information in the first place. Seems to me that being married to a narcissistic liar is the real danger for an undercover operative.

81 posted on 07/14/2005 7:54:05 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: OXENinFLA

According to Nick Kristof of the NY Times, October 11, 2003 (three months after Wilson's infamous op-ed):

First, the C.I.A. suspected that Aldrich Ames had given Mrs. Wilson's name (along with those of other spies) to the Russians before his espionage arrest in 1994. So her undercover security was undermined at that time, and she was brought back to Washington for safety reasons.

Second, as Mrs. Wilson rose in the agency, she was already in transition away from undercover work to management, and to liaison roles with other intelligence agencies. So this year, even before she was outed, she was moving away from "noc" — which means non-official cover, like pretending to be a business executive. After passing as an energy analyst for Brewster-Jennings & Associates, a C.I.A. front company, she was switching to a new cover as a State Department official, affording her diplomatic protection without having "C.I.A." stamped on her forehead.


82 posted on 07/14/2005 7:56:49 AM PDT by OESY
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To: GraceCoolidge
You'd think somewhere the reporter(s) might mention the fact that Karl Rove in fact was alerting the reporter that Joe Wilson is a liar.

Especially since that is the interpretation (Rove was trying to wave him off a bad story) explicit in Matt Cooper's own email!

83 posted on 07/14/2005 7:57:14 AM PDT by Stultis
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To: OXENinFLA

doesn't stand the smell test ...

Hey, Joe, YOU don't stand the smell test (in more ways than one!) Why did YOU and YOUR WIFE parade yourselves all over the pages of "Vanity Fair" if you wanted to protect her precious reputation, HUH????!!!!


84 posted on 07/14/2005 7:57:57 AM PDT by Polyxene (For where God built a church, there the Devil would also build a chapel - Martin Luther)
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To: MojoWire

I am for charges against the Wilsons and also conspiracy charges against whomever: Matt Cooper, Grunewald, & Hillary.


85 posted on 07/14/2005 7:58:35 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: gaspar

Good points. I had not caught the link between Pflame and Iraqi WMD. So, this becomes part of the larger scenario of Sheuyer et al who screwed up at the CIA and rebelled at civilian policy interferance with their turfs. Were they all Arabists?


86 posted on 07/14/2005 8:04:17 AM PDT by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: nuconvert

I think it's time for the lying Mr. Wilson to shut up. What nerve he has!

He should Be arrested for Sedition.


87 posted on 07/14/2005 8:07:27 AM PDT by LtKerst (Lt Kerst)
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To: Polyxene

Not to mention, that Vanity Fair photograph is utterly juvenile. The convertible, Joe Wilson's chic dangling of his ultra cool sunglasses, his wife's "spy" getup... when I first saw it, I thought it was a spoof of some kind.


88 posted on 07/14/2005 8:07:48 AM PDT by GraceCoolidge
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To: OXENinFLA

I call on WIlson to drop dead.


89 posted on 07/14/2005 8:10:30 AM PDT by RetiredArmy (The U.S. government and courts are stealing your freedom & liberty!)
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To: OXENinFLA

There's no mention in the story about the fact Wilson is a confirmed liar with no credibility whatsoever, as determined by the Senate Intelligence Committee and others.


90 posted on 07/14/2005 8:24:31 AM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Mo1; ravingnutter; kcvl

Confidentiality agreement?

Well, that goes right along with what we said yesterday, that perhaps Joe didn't have his "What I Didn't Find" article vetted by the CIA when he published it.

Speaking of vendettas, just who is it that is on one?


91 posted on 07/14/2005 8:42:17 AM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Mo1; Ceoman; Sea2ShiningSea

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1442412/posts?page=201#201

Sea, read Mo1's post 53!


92 posted on 07/14/2005 8:43:33 AM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Mo1

Did he actually say "liar?"

You know, just from reading this, it sounds like old Joe is in an all out panic; perhaps he's afraid his web of lies is going to be exposed?

And I'll tell you this: if the White House wasn't out to smear him before, they should dump a load on him now. Let them tell it ALL.


93 posted on 07/14/2005 8:45:21 AM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Pukin Dog

Please tell us that Joe Wilson is going down............pretty please........


94 posted on 07/14/2005 8:46:22 AM PDT by MamaLucci (Mutually assured destruction STILL keeps the Clinton administration criminals out of jail.)
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To: Howlin
Did he actually say "liar?"

No .. he didn't said "liar"

Wilson said .. and I quote

"This is a conspiracy and cover up of their web of lies that underpinned the justification of going to war in Iraq"

He also claims that Rove said his wife was fair game

95 posted on 07/14/2005 8:57:50 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: MamaLucci
He already has gone down. He cant get a job in Washington, which is why he lied as a favor to John Kerry. He was hoping for a job in a Kerry Administration. Now, he hopes to generate some income through a book deal based on this current controversy.
96 posted on 07/14/2005 8:58:18 AM PDT by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: Howlin

Here is the video of the interview

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8568266/


97 posted on 07/14/2005 8:58:34 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Howlin
Oh and he won't answer the question of whether he is a dem or not

That he gave money to both Gore and Bush
98 posted on 07/14/2005 9:00:28 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1

Will I want to hurt something after I see it?


99 posted on 07/14/2005 9:00:48 AM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Mo1
He also claims that Rove said his wife was fair game

She IS fair game because she involved herself rather than staying out of it!

100 posted on 07/14/2005 9:02:00 AM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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