Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 7

Various News Sources | 7/14/05

[TexKat]

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba. AP photo

[the Deejay]

The US is the absolute last place
joran will come to.

[presently no screen name]

LOL - thanks I needed that laugh!

The same goes for me, also - it must be the shoda.

[Dark Skies]

Now, you asked for my opinion, and I gave it to you. You don't have to agree with it. You're entitled to a different opinion and that, naturally. won't make you a bad person.

Cheese and crackers, man. My opinion is lonely without others that differ. I am not looking for support...I am looking for originality.

[spectre]

It surprised me too, when I googled it...Don't tell anyone..:)

sw

[TexKat]

So, Miller & Co aren't leaving on Sunday.

The way it sounds the Deejay, some of Equusearch will remain, exactly who I do not know at this time. I will post LK transcript when it comes up, it should be posted some time tonight.

[presently no screen name]

Your right, originality.

Some new ideas ARE needed.

[the Deejay]

but now realize that this murder may never be solved as the real culprits have been let free.

No, it's b/c Aruban LE doesn't know sh!t from shineola about investigating a disappearance & they are so arrogant, they refuse to allow the FBI in on the investigation. The FBI could have worked this out or come close long ago.

[TAquinas]

Don't be ridiculous!

I don't know the guy and never spoken to him.

The fact that I believe he didn't do it makes his lies irrelevant to the case. He was, probably, covering up something he did not want his parents or the community to know. The family, afterall, is an outstanding one and well known in Aruba. I man, how would I know why he mispoke to the police?

Like I mentioned before, I'm not privy to the investigation.

What is the matter with you? Can't someone offer an educated opinion which does not run parallel to yours?

I haven't got time tonight to go into all the details, but tomorrow I'll go read at another site and compile the reasons as to why I think the Dutch kid didn't do it. Like I said, I followed this case in the beginning. Once my mind was made up, I stopped following it.

In the end, history will prove me right just as in the ES's case and Richard Ricci not being the culprit.

OK. Enjoy your discussion. This is a good thread. I like crime cases.

Good night now. Be good.

[spectre]

Actuall, TAQ...we haven't truly explored the vast possibility that Joran could be innocent.

We desperately need some help with that. Make your case.

sw

[Vn_survivor_67-68]

bear in mind that the newspaper is the major paper in the Detriot area that caters to the interests and issues of blacks from a black perspective when you consider this snip:

" According to experts such as Dr. Scott Thornsley, an assistant professor of criminal justice administration at Mansfield University in Pennsylvania, at least two studies show that the percentage of America’s serial killers that are African-American is between 13 and 16 percent, compared to our 12 percent black population. Nothing consoling there."

http://www.metrotimes.com/editorial/story.asp?id=4237

[Dark Skies]

But can we draw him out?

[TexKat]

I'm surprised as well on that one spectre. See I said to you yesterday, one learns something new on FR on a daily basis.

I was of the assumption that most serial murderers were white and northerners.

[presently no screen name]

Good Night. I'll be good.

We'll touch base tomorrow on your reasons. Thanks.

[the Deejay]

I did a Yahoo search & you're right!

But only the Willams guy rang a bell.
Never heard of the others.

[Ditter]

Earlier I was reading something about a barrel in the water, I can't find it now. Has anything else been said about the barrel?

[Dark Skies]

Coward, eh! Hit and run...no courage of conviction! Nothing to offer but steam and tease. Come back when you become a human being...when you are able to enter the fray...and when you are not just a child.

[TAquinas]

"That was my mistake."

Don't feel bad. I've made mistakes myself too.

We're just offering our informed opinions in these threads and it's easy to err, especially when all the facts are not at our disposal. Now, I don't expect the Aruba police and the FBI (they've done an excellent job in Aruba, btw) to disclose pertinent and crucial facts to the public until the case is resolved.

And resolved it will be.

[Rippersnapper]

That thought always comes to my mind BUT the words "no body, no crime" comes to mind. If she was shipped off the island I don't think it would have been said like that. But who knows if that wasn't said deliberately. When dealing w/liars who knows what their words/lies mean.

Out of curiosity, if he had said 'if they can't find her, there's no crime', would you have thought the same thing?

[spectre]

Well, to be on the list, it has to be 3 or more killings. AND to be fair, the list goes as far back as anyone can remember. So the ratio is still small, I would imagine.

sw

[presently no screen name]

white and northerners.



Hey, easy there!! :)