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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 7
Various News Sources | 7/14/05

Posted on 07/13/2005 11:15:06 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba. AP photo


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; deepakkalpoe; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; satishkalpoe; vandersloot
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To: GarySpFc
What is your problem?

Why would you post some MB students stated a shoving match never happened, when it clearly did?

Because I am able of posting what I have read thus far.

And if that was posted by one or more MB students why do you not want what everyone that was on the trip posted or has said in interviews? Why some and not all? Some MB students state that they saw Natalee get in the car with Joran, others did not see.

Some state that Natalee met Joran on that Sunday, some state she met him a couple of days prior to that Sunday. Out of 140 something students on the trip some saw things that others did not.

Were you there? Are you sure that everything that you have posted happened just the way that you have posted it?

181 posted on 07/14/2005 9:43:13 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: the Deejay

From Caribbean Way:

"Aruba weather varies significantly from its Caribbean counterparts due to its southwestern location. Though tropical, meaning that temperature varies little here between seasons, Aruba weather is also very dry. Its 'rainy' season consists of brief shower bursts that rarely last long or appear for several days in a row. Aruba weather doesn't include the humidity that other islands do either, making it one of the driest locales in the region. This also spares it from the hurricane paths which sometimes swath across the Leeward chain. As a result, Aruba weather is beautiful, though unchanging, throughout the year - an average of 82 degrees prevails almost twelve months of the year. Nighttime Aruba weather is seldom more than 3-5 degrees from that of the day. Aruba weather is so constant, in fact, that local newspapers public weather reports only occasionally, on the odd day when Aruba weather isn't sunny and warm."

That said, the humidity in Aruba today is 89%. Although I found it quite dry when I was there. (Being used to NYC summers.)


182 posted on 07/14/2005 9:44:21 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: NCjim

Oh Jim, sorry to hear that. We will keep you informed. We will save a place just for you.


183 posted on 07/14/2005 9:45:27 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat
What is your problem?

It appears you may be the one with the problem. You were the one last night denying statements clearly made on H&C. You also had a similar problem with another poster. I had several email me backing my version of what transpired. Indeed, if someone wants copies of the interview I will be more than happy to make a copy for the first 5 and send them free of charge.
184 posted on 07/14/2005 9:51:29 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: the Deejay
Especially when it's humid & it's very humid in Aruba.

It was posted that it was in her bag (inhaler). What does in her bag mean? In her suitcase or in her purse?

I'm thinking it means purse. Thoughts?

185 posted on 07/14/2005 9:52:56 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: the Deejay
And didn't Beth find the bag in the hotel room?

Yep.

186 posted on 07/14/2005 9:54:57 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: GarySpFc
I tell you what GarySpFC. Go post to someone else. I do not have time for your rants. Like I said to you last night we can agree to disagree. But at this point since you are on your rag, I do not want to even disagree with you.

This is not about you nor me.

187 posted on 07/14/2005 9:56:56 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: All


188 posted on 07/14/2005 9:59:07 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: spectre

People who use an inhaler usually carry it with them at all times because you will never know when it is needed. My daughter carries one and although she rarely uses it, she tries to remember to always have it available.


189 posted on 07/14/2005 9:59:17 AM PDT by twigs
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To: kcat
"Hey Gary and all you other guys on this thread. Can you imagine seeing a 5'2" girl being hit with a closed fist by a 6'5" man and you not beating the crap out of the guy? What kind of guy would say pick on somebody your own size and take it outside? I just can't imagine this story being true. Maybe it is, but I can't believe it. "

I think there's disinformation mixed in with some truth, here. Typical for aruban LE. I don't believe this happened in C and C's. It happened in the car. Remember the kalpoo mom saying joran and Natalee were going to mess up the car? The truth probably was that joran was getting rough. If any hit happened, it happened in the car.

190 posted on 07/14/2005 9:59:46 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: GarySpFc

Ohhh...thanks for the insight, especially us not knowing the gender of the student who saw the "punch". Girls would probably just leave the situation instead of having a confrontation.


191 posted on 07/14/2005 9:59:49 AM PDT by kcat
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To: Newfy

Her parents, from what I've understood, have been told that she is probably dead. I assume that they were told that for a reason. However, we do not know whether or not she is still alive and we don't know about that cell phone call. Beth does. I also assume that a big reason Beth refuses to give up is that Natalee just could still be alive, needing her help.


192 posted on 07/14/2005 10:02:28 AM PDT by twigs
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To: TexKat

http://www.coffeepotghost.com/Natalee_Holloway_Clues.html Just posted on SM. Interesting looking site.


193 posted on 07/14/2005 10:03:09 AM PDT by monkeywrench (Deut. 27:17 Cursed be he that removeth his neighbor's landmark)
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To: monkeywrench

thanks, monkeywrench. Another interesting thought.


194 posted on 07/14/2005 10:05:50 AM PDT by kcat
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To: kcat
Ohhh...thanks for the insight, especially us not knowing the gender of the student who saw the "punch". Girls would probably just leave the situation instead of having a confrontation.

Supposedly her cousin (Tim?) got into a shoving match with Sloot. I'm not sure if this is a separate instance or not. Then again, some say no shoving match happened. I would think her cousin would be one to keep a clser eye on her than the others, especially if she had rebuffed Sloot earlier.

195 posted on 07/14/2005 10:08:14 AM PDT by Rippersnapper (Personal accountability doesn't begin and stop with the other person.)
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To: monkeywrench

Bump and thanks!!


196 posted on 07/14/2005 10:10:49 AM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Bookmarking


197 posted on 07/14/2005 10:12:41 AM PDT by BunnySlippers (Be a Good Mullah Now ...)
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To: twigs

Yes, if Beth thought she was dead I believe she wouldn't be trying so hard to find her (although I'm sure she would want to know what happened to her) but she and her family, relatives and friends are all very strong Christians and believe in the power of prayer and something (the Holy Spirit) is telling them she is alive and not to give up. I wonder if they've considered hiring a private detective... probably wouldn't cost them any more than what they are trying to do on their own with very little to show for their efforts so far.


198 posted on 07/14/2005 10:19:27 AM PDT by Newfy
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To: monkeywrench
I think there's disinformation mixed in with some truth, here. Typical for aruban LE. I don't believe this happened in C and C's. It happened in the car. Remember the kalpoo mom saying joran and Natalee were going to mess up the car? The truth probably was that joran was getting rough. If any hit happened, it happened in the car.

If it happened in the car, then who was the person who jumped between them, and told Joran to take it outside and pick on someone his own size? It very well may be some truth and disinformation, but putting what transpired in the car doesn't make sense.
199 posted on 07/14/2005 10:20:50 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: MrNatural

One friend said her eyes looked funny, were heavy and half closed. That tipped me off.


200 posted on 07/14/2005 10:20:51 AM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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