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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 7
Various News Sources | 7/14/05

Posted on 07/13/2005 11:15:06 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba. AP photo


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: aruba; deepakkalpoe; missing; natalee; nataleeholloway; satishkalpoe; vandersloot
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To: spectre

Does anyone hold out any hope that the Aruban police actually DO know what they are doing and have quietly been going about gathering evidence for a case? Probably just wishful thinking I know...


1,641 posted on 07/17/2005 7:11:56 PM PDT by helen crump
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68

" my recollection is that the girls returned to the Hotel and Casino between the concert on the beach and going to Carlo's and Charlies......this is where she "met" VDS, and is also the explanation for "she was seen at the hotel THAT NIGHT'. No big mystery here, IMO""

You're probably right. I just keep wondering if Juran was stalking Natalee before the night of the 29th. Early on, we heard Juran had been hanging out and seen by the Mountain High group before the last night.


1,642 posted on 07/17/2005 7:12:17 PM PDT by Pepper777
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To: Dark Skies

I heard that! LOL.


1,643 posted on 07/17/2005 7:13:16 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: helen crump
No, helen. They are truly incompetent and refuse to accept our help. The only thing they know how to do is repeat "we have our own way of doing things here".

At first, they avoided investigating because of Joran's fathers connections. Now, it's too little too late.

sw

1,644 posted on 07/17/2005 7:16:37 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: helen crump
Does anyone hold out any hope that the Aruban police actually DO know what they are doing and have quietly been going about gathering evidence for a case?

Yes, but many on this thread are empirical. They have read the backstory of Aruba and form theories that are informed...instead of just naive.

Of course, you may be correct...but it would be pure coincidence.

Use the into available. Make an inform decision.

1,645 posted on 07/17/2005 7:16:48 PM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: monkeywrench

Quit insulting Baby Huey.


1,646 posted on 07/17/2005 7:17:27 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: spectre

Hope the hair and tape are not a hoax. This reminds me of when that guy found panties and duct tape right after a search location was shown on TV. Too many evil pranksters down there.


1,647 posted on 07/17/2005 7:19:39 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: spectre
DID YOU SEE the latest quick vido of the search at the cave area. The guy is carrying a shredded piece of blue green material that looks like the color in the outfit we saw Natelee wear on the Beach. The picture of her with the girls..remember?

Was that on Fox?

1,648 posted on 07/17/2005 7:19:42 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: rolling_stone; Palladin
YES! It was a new video last hour where they showed a person climbing on the rocky ocean cliffs, clutching a shredded piece of material that looked like the same color as the top she had on at the beach picture in Aruba.

I'm more interested in THAT than the tape!

sw

1,649 posted on 07/17/2005 7:25:08 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife)
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To: Pepper777
MB Student Ruth McVay.

From Greta's Interview: VAN SUSTEREN: Ruth, you were present when Natalee met Joran van der Sloot, is that right?

RUTH MCVAY, NATALEE HOLLOWAY'S FRIEND: That's right.

VAN SUSTEREN: Where were you?

MCVAY: We were in our hotel casino. And that was the first night that she had ever met him. Contrary to other stories that are circulating, she did not know him before that night.

VAN SUSTEREN: All right. And when you say the fist night, was that the night of May 29 into the 30th, when she missed her flight home?

MCVAY: Yes, ma'am.

VAN SUSTEREN: And Ruth, how did you happen to notice him? What was it about him that caught your attention?

MCVAY: He didn't. He was sitting at our blackjack table, and he just seemed like a normal teenager. He wasn't flirting. He wasn't really outgoing at all. And Natalee, just in passing, introduced herself and walked off. And nothing was strange or out of the ordinary about him at all.

some say that the Kalpoes were not in C&C, well it looks like Ruth McVay saw them there. ( texkat)

VAN SUSTEREN: Did there come a time when Natalee made some sort of date — I don't mean a date, I mean, an arrangement — with him, with you, with everybody, to go to Carlos and Charlie's?

MCVAY: Not with him. Absolutely not. With us. She went with all of our friends. He wasn't with us. He didn't go with us.

VAN SUSTEREN: How is it, Ruth, that both Joran and Natalee both ended up at Carlos and Charlie's?

MCVAY: He came with his friends. He had told us that night that Sunday was not a fun night on the island and that no one goes out. So we found it ironic that he showed up. _______________________________________________________

Ruth McVay in NY Post article: On one of their nights out, Holloway met Joran van der Sloot, a tall, smooth-talking gambler son of a prominent local judge-in-waiting and the last person to see Holloway alive.

"Nat met him in the hotel casino called Excelsior," McVay said. "She talked to him for a matter of five minutes when we were playing blackjack."

McVay, who was interrogated by the FBI, said the group of girls with Holloway told van der Sloot they would be at Carlos 'N Charlie's the following night.

"I found it weird because he mentioned earlier that no one went out on Sunday nights, that it was a bad night," McVay recalled.

"And then he showed up at the place," she said.

1,650 posted on 07/17/2005 7:34:23 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: spectre

thanks..will try and check it out I just saw geraldo but didnt see it..


1,651 posted on 07/17/2005 7:37:27 PM PDT by rolling_stone
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To: helen crump

The tape was not found at what is called the temporary grave site.


1,652 posted on 07/17/2005 7:39:03 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: spectre
TexKat..DID YOU SEE the latest quick vido of the search at the cave area. The guy is carrying a shredded piece of blue green material that looks like the color in the outfit we saw Natelee wear on the Beach. The picture of her with the girls..remember?

I missed it spectre. I was busy copying and pasting. I will have to stay up late again tonight, so that I can catch the rerun. Darn!!

1,653 posted on 07/17/2005 7:42:26 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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1,654 posted on 07/17/2005 7:54:42 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: tapatio

Geraldo called that place "Boca Tortuga".


1,655 posted on 07/17/2005 7:55:02 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: spectre
From SM:

Itawamba wrote: Natalee's hair IS bleached.

Yeah, they also said that it was naturally redish (the hair they found), beth's hair is red. So you have naturally red hair, which has been bleeched blonde. I'm about 100% sure it is Natalee's hair, and that she was in that grave before PVDS moved her.

1,656 posted on 07/17/2005 7:57:33 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

This is confusing. On Geraldo, I thought the guy on the telephone being interviewed said the hair was natural blond with red highlights???

Then Geraldo made a comment to Dave Holloway (which I thought was tacky) that "only her hairdresser would know for sure".

My gut tells me this is another hoax.


1,657 posted on 07/17/2005 8:06:46 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: Palladin

BTW, it looks to me like Natalee's natural color is dark brunette. She's not blonde in the photos of her as a little girl at her friend's birthday party.


1,658 posted on 07/17/2005 8:08:12 PM PDT by Palladin (America! America! God shed His grace on Thee.)
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To: TexKat

Wait,,I read it was blonde.

Is Nat's hair all blonde, bleached, or is it heavy highlighting?

Looks highlighted to me.

But who said it was naturally red? And how could they know that? Weird.


1,659 posted on 07/17/2005 8:12:15 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: TexKat
Here's a nice interactive map, though I am not sure what our places of interest are called on it.

http://www.arubavacationhouse.com/images/arubamap.gif

1,660 posted on 07/17/2005 8:13:43 PM PDT by Yaelle
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