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Byron York: There's a lot we don't know yet about the CIA flap
The Hill ^ | 7/13/05 | Byron York

Posted on 07/13/2005 3:28:51 PM PDT by Jean S

Please allow me to share with you some of the things I don’t know. 

I don’t know what Valerie Plame’s status with the CIA was in July 2003 when Robert Novak wrote his column mentioning that she was an “agency operative” and had recommended her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, for a fact-finding trip to Niger. Was Plame a covert agent then? If not, how recently had she been a covert agent?

I don’t know.

I also don’t know what’s going on with The New York Times’ Judith Miller.

Since top presidential adviser Karl Rove and top vice-presidential adviser Lewis Libby signed strongly worded waivers releasing all reporters from any pledges of confidentiality, why hasn’t Miller testified? Does that mean her source was someone else who has not signed a confidentiality waiver?

I don’t know.

I also don’t know why Miller is involved in all this at all, since she never wrote a story about it. Was she some sort of “carrier,” as is now being theorized, and actually helped spread word of Plame’s identity?

I don’t know.

For that matter, I don’t know what Time magazine’s Matthew Cooper was doing either. Rove’s lawyer says Rove signed the waiver about a year and a half ago and has never changed it. Why was that waiver not acceptable to Cooper for 18 months and then, on the brink of going to jail, Cooper agreed to testify?

I don’t know.

I don’t know anything about the role the other journalists caught up in the case — Tim Russert, Walter Pincus and Glenn Kessler — played. Apparently on the basis of waivers signed by sources, they all gave information to special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. What did they say?

I don’t know.

And of course I also don’t know what is happening with Novak. Given Fitzgerald’s aggressiveness in dealing with all figures in this case, Novak must have made some sort of accommodation. Did he testify? Refuse to testify?

I don’t know.

I also don’t know why many in the press, most notably The New York Times, were once so enthusiastic about the Fitzgerald investigation. On Dec. 30, 2003, the Times published an editorial headlined “The Right Thing, At Last,” which said, “After an egregiously long delay, Attorney General John Ashcroft finally did the right thing yesterday when he recused himself from the investigation into who gave the name of a CIA operative to columnist Robert Novak.” Why did the Times do that?

I don’t know.

And then, why did the Times change its position and condemn Fitzgerald who, the paper said, “can’t even say whether a crime has been committed.” Why would the Times say that, when it had once been so sure that a crime had been committed?

I don’t know.

I also don’t know about the actions of Joseph Wilson. For example, in his book, The Politics of Truth, he wrote, “The assertion that Valerie had played any substantive role in the decision to ask me to go to Niger was false on the face of it. ...Valerie could not — and would not if she could — have had anything to do with the CIA decision to ask me to travel to [Niger].” But later, the Senate Intelligence Committee, in its bipartisan report, said that “interviews and documents provided to the committee indicate that [Wilson’s] wife, a CPD employee [a reference to the CIA’s Counterproliferation Division], suggested his name for the trip. The CPD reports officer told committee staff that the former ambassador’s wife ‘offered up his name’ and a memorandum to the deputy chief of the CPD on February 12, 2002, from [Wilson’s] wife says, ‘my husband has good relations with both [Niger’s prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity.’” So why did Wilson say his wife played no “substantive role” in it?

I don’t know.

I also don’t know why Wilson’s defenders accuse the White House of “smearing” him. What was the smear? Was it a smear to say that Wilson got the Niger assignment, at least in part, because his wife recommended him? If so, then the Senate committee “smeared” him, too. If not, what is the smear?

I don’t know.

And finally, I don’t know about Karl Rove’s public statements on the case. Last year on CNN, he said of Plame, “I didn’t know her name and didn’t leak her name.” Even if he hadn’t passed on Plame’s name — just mentioned her as Wilson’s wife — why not just say nothing, especially since the whole thing is under criminal investigation?

I don’t know.

The bottom line is, some of the most critical facts in the whole Wilson/Plame/CIA matter are just not known, at least not known by anyone outside of the Fitzgerald investigation.

But don’t worry. At least we can be sure that we will someday know them, right?

I don’t know.

York is a White House correspondent for National Review. His column appears in The Hill each week.
E-mail:
byork@thehill.com


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1 posted on 07/13/2005 3:28:54 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: JeanS

I don't know ..

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Well, Get crackin', Byron.. ;-)


2 posted on 07/13/2005 3:33:36 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi ... "To remain silent when they should protest makes cowards of men." -- THOMAS JEFFERSON)
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To: JeanS

I don't care.


3 posted on 07/13/2005 3:36:06 PM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: JeanS

Well, I sure as heck don't know. But I would bet real American dollars that Rove will let us know when he is good and ready. Probably right after he is fired.


4 posted on 07/13/2005 3:38:51 PM PDT by Bar-Face
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To: JeanS
I am happy to know that I am not the only one WHO DOES NOT KNOW. :-)
5 posted on 07/13/2005 3:39:34 PM PDT by Spunky ("Everyone has a freedom of choice, but not of consequences.")
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To: JeanS
I don’t know.

Funny how the libs and reporters who are constantly whining about Bush not admitting mistakes never admit to these three simple words (unless in the context of saying the White House is "secretive" and "holding back" facts.)

That bunch of popcorn brains knows nothing, and never, ever admit mistakes. Yet they pump out a nonstop sludge of half-truths, lies, spin and Dem talking points daily and call it news.

6 posted on 07/13/2005 3:40:00 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 ("Familiarity doesn't breed contempt, it IS contempt."--Florence King)
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To: JeanS
"I also don’t know why Wilson’s defenders accuse the White House of “smearing” him. What was the smear? Was it a smear to say that Wilson got the Niger assignment, at least in part, because his wife recommended him? If so, then the Senate committee “smeared” him, too. If not, what is the smear?"

I've been trying to make this point for the last year. How was mentioning that Wilson's wife recommended him for the assignment supposed to discredit him, punish him, or smear him? The whole premise of the Dems' argument is based on a non sequitor. And I certainly don't buy the wacko idea that the White House was trying to jeopardize Plame's safety.
7 posted on 07/13/2005 3:44:33 PM PDT by Steve_Seattle
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To: JeanS

My take on this latest Democrat/MSM story.

I don’t know what Valerie Plame’s status with the CIA was in July 2003 when Robert Novak wrote his column mentioning that she was an “agency operative” and had recommended her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, for a fact-finding trip to Niger. Was Plame a covert agent then? If not, how recently had she been a covert agent?

NO.

I also don’t know what’s going on with The New York Times’ Judith Miller.

Since top presidential adviser Karl Rove and top vice-presidential adviser Lewis Libby signed strongly worded waivers releasing all reporters from any pledges of confidentiality, why hasn’t Miller testified? Does that mean her source was someone else who has not signed a confidentiality waiver?

Yes.

I also don’t know why Miller is involved in all this at all, since she never wrote a story about it. Was she some sort of “carrier,” as is now being theorized, and actually helped spread word of Plame’s identity?

Yes.

For that matter, I don’t know what Time magazine’s Matthew Cooper was doing either. Rove’s lawyer says Rove signed the waiver about a year and a half ago and has never changed it. Why was that waiver not acceptable to Cooper for 18 months and then, on the brink of going to jail, Cooper agreed to testify?

I don’t know.

I don’t know anything about the role the other journalists caught up in the case — Tim Russert, Walter Pincus and Glenn Kessler — played. Apparently on the basis of waivers signed by sources, they all gave information to special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald. What did they say?

I don’t know.

And of course I also don’t know what is happening with Novak. Given Fitzgerald’s aggressiveness in dealing with all figures in this case, Novak must have made some sort of accommodation. Did he testify? Refuse to testify?

I don’t know.

I also don’t know why many in the press, most notably The New York Times, were once so enthusiastic about the Fitzgerald investigation. On Dec. 30, 2003, the Times published an editorial headlined “The Right Thing, At Last,” which said, “After an egregiously long delay, Attorney General John Ashcroft finally did the right thing yesterday when he recused himself from the investigation into who gave the name of a CIA operative to columnist Robert Novak.” Why did the Times do that?

They still thought they could spin it in their favor.

And then, why did the Times change its position and condemn Fitzgerald who, the paper said, “can’t even say whether a crime has been committed.” Why would the Times say that, when it had once been so sure that a crime had been committed?

They found out they couldn't spin it in their favor.

I also don’t know about the actions of Joseph Wilson. For example, in his book, The Politics of Truth, he wrote, “The assertion that Valerie had played any substantive role in the decision to ask me to go to Niger was false on the face of it. ...Valerie could not — and would not if she could — have had anything to do with the CIA decision to ask me to travel to [Niger].” But later, the Senate Intelligence Committee, in its bipartisan report, said that “interviews and documents provided to the committee indicate that [Wilson’s] wife, a CPD employee [a reference to the CIA’s Counterproliferation Division], suggested his name for the trip. The CPD reports officer told committee staff that the former ambassador’s wife ‘offered up his name’ and a memorandum to the deputy chief of the CPD on February 12, 2002, from [Wilson’s] wife says, ‘my husband has good relations with both [Niger’s prime minister] and the former Minister of Mines (not to mention lots of French contacts), both of whom could possibly shed light on this sort of activity.’” So why did Wilson say his wife played no “substantive role” in it?

He lied.

I also don’t know why Wilson’s defenders accuse the White House of “smearing” him. What was the smear? Was it a smear to say that Wilson got the Niger assignment, at least in part, because his wife recommended him? If so, then the Senate committee “smeared” him, too. If not, what is the smear?

Any attempt to correct Democrats lies are branded as VRWC lies.

And finally, I don’t know about Karl Rove’s public statements on the case. Last year on CNN, he said of Plame, “I didn’t know her name and didn’t leak her name.” Even if he hadn’t passed on Plame’s name — just mentioned her as Wilson’s wife — why not just say nothing, especially since the whole thing is under criminal investigation?

I don’t know.

The bottom line is, some of the most critical facts in the whole Wilson/Plame/CIA matter are just not known, at least not known by anyone outside of the Fitzgerald investigation.

But don’t worry. At least we can be sure that we will someday know them, right?

I don’t know.


8 posted on 07/13/2005 3:45:53 PM PDT by rocksblues (I support the war on terror)
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To: JeanS
I don’t know what Valerie Plame’s status with the CIA was in July 2003 when Robert Novak wrote his column mentioning that she was an “agency operative” and had recommended her husband, former ambassador Joseph Wilson, for a fact-finding trip to Niger. Was Plame a covert agent then? If not, how recently had she been a covert agent?

Well, Walter Pincus of the Washington Post claims she was a covert agent as late as 1999. Maybe someone should ask him how he came to 'know' that?

9 posted on 07/13/2005 3:46:31 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude Adjustments Offered Here Free of Charge)
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To: JeanS

Bush and Rove must be privately laughing their asses off.


10 posted on 07/13/2005 3:50:10 PM PDT by blam
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To: JeanS
One thing is certain. The MSM and the White House Press corps have definitely Jumped the Shark. They have gone absolutely bananas, and they are going to regret it? Why? This story is about to turn 90 degrees in direction.

Judith "the Drama Queen" Miller and Matthew "Another Donuts please" Cooper deceived the public by telling everyone that there was a last minute release signed by Rove that allowed them to disclose their source. As we now know, Rove's lawyer has disclosed that Rove signed a release 18 months ago. Byron York was on the Sean Hannity program today and released even more detail about this signed release. In short, the two reporters (and the rest of the MSM) were hoping and praying that the trap on the Bush White House and Rove would close shut before the details and facts were disclosed in full.

This inconvenient fact is going to destroy the reporters credibility (like they had any to begin with) and their story. These reporters (especially Miller) have probably been practicing their acceptance speech for the Pulitzer in front of their bathroom mirrors for months, pretending that their hair brushes are microphones.

The Jump the Shark moment for the MSM has truly arrived.

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Q Scott, you know what, to make a general observation here, in a previous administration, if a press secretary had given the sort of answers you've just given in referring to the fact that everybody who works here enjoys the confidence of the President, Republicans would have hammered them as having a kind of legalistic and sleazy defense. I mean, the reality is that you're parsing words, and you've been doing it for a few days now. So does the President think Karl Rove did something wrong, or doesn't he?

MR. McCLELLAN: No, David, I'm not at all. I told you and the President told you earlier today that we don't want to prejudge the outcome of an ongoing investigation. And I think we've been round and round on this for two days now.

Q Even if it wasn't a crime? You know, there are those who believe that even if Karl Rove was trying to debunk bogus information, as Ken Mehlman suggested yesterday -- perhaps speaking on behalf of the White House -- that when you're dealing with a covert operative, that a senior official of the government should be darn well sure that that person is not undercover, is not covert, before speaking about them in any way, shape, or form. Does the President agree with that or not?

MR. McCLELLAN: Again, we've been round and round on this for a couple of days now. I don't have anything to add to what I've said the previous two days.

Q That's a different question, and it's not round and round --

MR. McCLELLAN: You heard from the President earlier.

Q It has nothing to do with the investigation, Scott, and you know it.

MR. McCLELLAN: You heard from the President earlier today, and the President said he's not --

Q That's a dodge to my question. It has nothing to do with the investigation. Is it appropriate for a senior official to speak about a covert

11 posted on 07/13/2005 3:52:01 PM PDT by SkyPilot (Eliminate, eradicate, and stamp out redundancy!)
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To: piasa

According to this Vanity Fair piece......."In 1997, Plame moved back to the Washington area, partly because (as was recently reported in The New York Times) the C.I.A. suspeccted that her name may have been on a list given to the Russians by the double agent Aldrich Ames in 1994."

http://www.jimgilliam.com/2004/01/vanity_fairs_profile_on_joseph_wilson_and_valerie_plame.php


12 posted on 07/13/2005 3:53:56 PM PDT by blogblogginaway
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To: rocksblues

Good analysis, thanks.


13 posted on 07/13/2005 3:55:23 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: Darkwolf377

I think this is a nice response to all the errant speculation about Rove of recent days.


14 posted on 07/13/2005 3:57:34 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: Bar-Face

"Probably right after he is fired."

I thought Karl was already fired for calling the liberals a bunch of wimps?;^)


15 posted on 07/13/2005 4:02:02 PM PDT by SwinneySwitch (Liberals-beyond your expectations! !)
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To: Shermy; Allan

Ping.


16 posted on 07/13/2005 4:02:53 PM PDT by Mitchell
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To: JeanS

Brit Hume just said that Karl Rove heard about Valerie Plame from "a reporter."

My bet is that Judith Miller was that reporter -- and now Miller is refusing to say WHO told her about Plame.

So we can deduce that whoever told HER hasn't signed a waiver and she's covering up for them.

It's a Democrat.


17 posted on 07/13/2005 4:05:59 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: Bar-Face

He is not going to be fired; there's absolutely no reason to be fired.


18 posted on 07/13/2005 4:06:42 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: piasa
Well, Walter Pincus of the Washington Post claims she was a covert agent as late as 1999.

They brought her "inside" in 1994.

19 posted on 07/13/2005 4:08:46 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: JeanS
Yet the MSM doesn't feel even the vaguest twinge of guilt for trying to blacken the reputation of Karl Rove.

And they wonder why nobody in their right mind trusts anything they say.

20 posted on 07/13/2005 4:09:23 PM PDT by McGavin999
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