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They say it was not connected to a backlash against Muslims following the London bombings, which has seen mosques firebombed and Muslims attacked in the street.

Mosques firebombed? Not hearing that here.

1 posted on 07/13/2005 11:59:17 AM PDT by Calamari
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Its the guardian you can't expect any facts or logic.

Since the soviet union fell apart they have been very very sad. Its probably similar to the after election depression the rats are still going through..


2 posted on 07/13/2005 12:03:34 PM PDT by federal
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"Nottinghamshire police described the incident as racially aggravated, not as Islamophobic, angering Muslim groups and surprising some senior officers."

Guess I missed the memo that Islam is now a "race."


3 posted on 07/13/2005 12:05:34 PM PDT by Desecrated (A nickel of every tax dollar should go toward the defense of America)
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Kamal Butt?
4 posted on 07/13/2005 12:08:47 PM PDT by Minnesoootan
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They say it was not connected to a backlash against Muslims following the London bombings

Oh, of course not.(How stupid to they think the public would be. And they wonder why the media and all has lost credibility.) Give me a break.

5 posted on 07/13/2005 12:08:47 PM PDT by oyez (¡Qué viva la revolución de Reagan!)
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Phobia? I think not. An eye for an eye, maybe. Tired of Islamabums getting every stinking benefit of a doubt with regard to violence, hate and intolerance, the very things we are so willing engage in self flagellation for. Political correctness is for total morons and deconstuctionists also.
6 posted on 07/13/2005 12:09:09 PM PDT by Archon of the East ("universal executive power of the law of nature")
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Kamal Raza Butt

Now that's just cruel...

As far as the term "Islamophoia" goes - it's nonsense! Of course people fear those whose sole ideology is to kill all infidels & apostates and take over the world! There is NOTHING "irrational" in fearing that, as the term Islamophobia would suggest.

7 posted on 07/13/2005 12:10:06 PM PDT by blinachka (Vechnaya Pamyat Daddy... xoxo)
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Islamophobic? Is that another way of saying, "observing reality and applying logic to form a rational opinion"?


8 posted on 07/13/2005 12:10:59 PM PDT by ArcadeQuarters
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Doesn't "phobia" mean an irrational fear of something? In my opinion, fearing Islam is completely rational.
9 posted on 07/13/2005 12:11:02 PM PDT by whd23
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...described the incident as racially aggravated, not as Islamophobic...

Used to be that a "phobia" meant an irrational fear of something--heights, spiders, the number 13, etc., and manifested itself as a neurotic need to avoid the object of fear. Now it appears that "phobia" means an aggressive attack on something or someone--IOW, the exact opposite of what it used to mean.

13 posted on 07/13/2005 12:14:07 PM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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It's like a lawyer joke.

What do we call it? A good start.


14 posted on 07/13/2005 12:14:29 PM PDT by garyhope (moules et frites)
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England was the place of Richard the Lion Hearted. Jihadists did spawn the last crusades...


15 posted on 07/13/2005 12:15:41 PM PDT by Nachum
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Islamophobic

Isn't a "phobia" an irrational fear? Well, considering that Islam is a cult of death that has hundreds of millions of adherents, fearing Islamics certainly isn't irrational. ....although the hooligans should've found a more appropriate target for their rage than innocent, poor Mr. Camel Butt. Find some actual Jihadists.

17 posted on 07/13/2005 12:16:19 PM PDT by Mr. Mojo
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Nottinghamshire police described the incident as racially aggravated, not as Islamophobic...

The British physician Theodore Dalrymple has written a devastating book titled "Life at the Bottom". It describes how political correctness and the welfare-state mentality have developed so firm a grip on Great Britain that its police officers often fail to respond to crimes at all. And when they do, they're more likely to take action on crimes against minorities than on crimes against whites. Assuming this is a race crime is unfortunately too typical of British police work today.

18 posted on 07/13/2005 12:16:33 PM PDT by American Quilter
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If England's Islamic leaders have been saying the things their American co-religionists have been saying, it is little wonder that Englishmen are taking things less than calmly, considering recent events.

Those who declare war can expect casualties.

And, as I remember, Islam is not the native religion of England.

Calling for sharia law, and demanding that your host nation accept the egregiously abusive slave status afforded the "dhimmi" under sharia law, is likely to eventually result in either the expulsion/execution of Islam in England OR the forced revision of Islam.

We Americans did the forced revision thingie with the Mormons. It worked.

After their faith was forcibly changed from antithetical to the American culture to congruent with American culture, Mormons proved to be valued citizens.

Given that England's Muslims were motivated enough to emmigrate in the first place, and given that such foreign born have proven productive in America, England can expect their Muslims to also be productive once their faith is changed to make it compatible with Western civilization.

The term "make it compatible" was used deliberately, as history indicates that such religious change must be imposed by force of arms.
19 posted on 07/13/2005 12:16:55 PM PDT by GladesGuru ("In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles)
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Just a comment. No description of the ethnicity of the attackers. In the US that usually means they're black, as if white the headline would identify them as such.


20 posted on 07/13/2005 12:17:25 PM PDT by Restorer (Liberalism: the auto-immune disease of societies.)
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It was not Islamophobic. He was beaten to death by anti-smoking liberals.


21 posted on 07/13/2005 12:17:50 PM PDT by Alouette (Just when I think liberals can't get any more stupid, I'm wrong.)
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This incident, deplorable as it is, fails to get me all exercised. I'm kind of tired of hearing how insecure and fearful the Muslims are over the supposed backlash in the aftermath of their latest attack. It's kind of empty-headed of them not to expect a certain amount of backlash, but no, they demand immunity and protection for themselves. I would be more sympathetic if their first concern was for their British friends, neighbors and host country.
26 posted on 07/13/2005 12:25:59 PM PDT by ArmyTeach (Pray daily for our troops...)
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Attacking some innocent guy will not accomplish anything.


37 posted on 07/13/2005 12:47:40 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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I think we should all adopt the Muslim tactic when hearing of terrorism-backlash incidents. Make a statement condemning it, quickly add we hope this doesn't incite anyone to more Islamic terror, then sit on our asses and not lift a finger to stop it.


38 posted on 07/13/2005 12:48:02 PM PDT by over3Owithabrain
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Islamaphobia
Posted by Fred Nerks to EdReform
On News/Activism 04/30/2005 1:27:36 AM CDT · 21 of 30
Islamophoba is waking up in the morning and remembering the moment you open your eyes that yesterday a suicide bomber or two or three blew up either a convoy and killed a number of brave young soldiers or a line-up of Iraqi men waiting to enlist, or shot a woman at her front door because she belonged to the government or wrote a book in either Iraq or Iran, islamophobia is watching the news every night on television knowing that before it's over there will be a bus or a train or a truck or a pizza parlour or a hotel filled with ordinary people, passengers, customers, guests, women and children blown to pieces by a crazed muslim yelling allah-akbar just before his body disintegrates and his head flies into the air to sometimes land on the fifth floor as happened in Indonesia recently, islamophobia is knowing that beheadings are video taped and the tapes are sold as entertainment in islamic countries where no doubt the obligatory allah-akbar is shouted while the film is rolling, islamophobia is asking oneself how can it be that a cult which has been responsible for the death of countless millions, throughout the middle east, throughout europe, throughout Africa with one massacre after another making up its entire history since the date of its inception by a brigand, a pirate, a mass murderer whose first 'gloriously' recorded act was to assist in the decapitation of 800 Hebrew men at Medina and bury them in a mass grave whereupon he took possession of the village, it's women and chilren and real estate and described it as a gift from allah who wanted him, mohammad and his evil band of murderers to have it all as an 'inheritance' ... that's some of what islamophobia is. It's also knowing that arafat was related to the mufti of Jerusalem whose name was Husseini, who was an officer in the army of the Ottoman empire, who took part in the massacre of one and a half million Armenian Christians and Lord knows how many Greeks at Smyrna, while shouting allah-akbar no doubt, the same Husseini who later recruited the muslim death squads for hitler in the second world war, that Husseini, who became the mufti of Jerusalem, have you got that? Who in between lived in Baghdad and was instrumental in setting up the carbon copy nazi government that expelled hundreds of thousands of Jews and Christians from Iraq without compensation...because well, if it was ok for mohammad to steal someone else's real estate and rape their women it was fine for them to do. That's the same nazi style government that saddam inherited, you remember him, he gave arafat's suicide bombers twenty five thousand dollars a head (sick pun not intended) because after all, they were close, the mufti and Saddam and Arafat, it's a tradition...that's what islamophobia is...I just figured it out while I was writing this for my own entertainment...ISLAMOPHOBIA IS KNOWING HISTORY!


BUMP to Fred Nerks!!


39 posted on 07/13/2005 12:51:14 PM PDT by BayouCoyote (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
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