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VA: Islamic scholar sentenced to Va. prison (Ali al-Timimi gets LIFE sentence!!!)
Bakersfield Californian ^ | 7/13/05 | Matthew Barakat - AP

Posted on 07/13/2005 9:26:52 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) - A prominent U.S.-based Islamic scholar who exhorted his followers after the Sept. 11 attacks to join the Taliban and fight U.S. troops was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison.

Ali al-Timimi of Fairfax was convicted in April of soliciting others to levy war against the United States, inducing others to aid the Taliban, and inducing others to use firearms in violation of federal law. The cleric addressed the court for 10 minutes before his sentencing.

"I will not admit guilt nor seek the court's mercy. I do this simply because I am innocent," al-Timimi said.

Prosecutors said the defendant, a native U.S. citizen who has an international following in some Muslim circles, wielded enormous influence among a group of young Muslim men in northern Virginia who played paintball games in 2000 and 2001. Authorities said they were a "Virginia jihad network" training for holy war around the globe.

Nine members of the group have been convicted and sentenced for their roles in the conspiracy, with prison terms ranging from three years to life.

Al-Timimi's lawyers argued that their client merely suggested that Muslims may want to leave the United States after Sept. 11 because of the potential for a backlash against them.

But he was accused of telling a group of young Muslim men just days after the attack that an apocalyptic battle between Muslims and nonbelievers was at hand and that Muslims were obligated to engage in holy war. He told the group that defense of the Taliban was a requirement and that U.S. troops were a legitimate target, according to court testimony.

Several of the men who heard Al-Timimi's speech traveled days later to Pakistan and began training with a militant Islamic group called Lashkar-e-Taiba, officials said. Some testified that their goal was to obtain training that would allow them to fight alongside the Taliban, though none actually made it to Afghanistan.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; US: Virginia; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alialtimimi; altimimi; fairfaxcounty; gwot; islamic; jihadinamerica; life; prison; scholar; sentenced; terrortrials
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1 posted on 07/13/2005 9:26:55 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: NormsRevenge

One down.....a billion (give or take) to go


2 posted on 07/13/2005 9:28:00 AM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: NormsRevenge

Stick him in the general population.


3 posted on 07/13/2005 9:29:21 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Some testified that their goal was to obtain training that would allow them to fight alongside the Taliban, though none actually made it to Afghanistan.

LOL! They could have made it if they had wanted to. However, they saw how badly their vaunted Taliban was getting their asses kicked and decided that they would sit this one out.

4 posted on 07/13/2005 9:30:13 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: NormsRevenge
Now we sentence "scholars" to life in prison! What is this country coming to? Soon the Terrorist US will be sending more scholars to GITMO. Oh woe unto you when Allah learns about this, you infidels! Long live the press! /sarc
5 posted on 07/13/2005 9:31:33 AM PDT by A.B.Normal (Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
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To: theDentist
Stick him in the general population.

Stick him in solitary. Forever.

6 posted on 07/13/2005 9:32:18 AM PDT by Nachum
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To: theDentist
All you need is a large crew of black Muslims in the gp and it won't matter to him.

Probably a significant chunk of his congregation were former guests of the state of VA.

7 posted on 07/13/2005 9:33:36 AM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave troops and their Commander in Chief)
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To: NormsRevenge

Allahu fubar!


8 posted on 07/13/2005 9:33:57 AM PDT by sheik yerbouty
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To: NormsRevenge

and ward churchill gets off scot free?


9 posted on 07/13/2005 9:35:05 AM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: NormsRevenge
sentenced Wednesday to life in prison.

So what's that really mean? Seven and a half and you're out?

10 posted on 07/13/2005 9:35:17 AM PDT by siunevada
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To: commonasdirt

I don't know about a billion, but we may have tens of millions with whom to deal.


11 posted on 07/13/2005 9:35:45 AM PDT by doug from upland (The Hillary documentary is coming)
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To: A.B.Normal

What does scholar mean in this article? It gives no clue.


12 posted on 07/13/2005 9:37:27 AM PDT by bkepley
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To: NormsRevenge

al-Timimi!

13 posted on 07/13/2005 9:38:08 AM PDT by SlowBoat407 (A living affront to Islam since 1959)
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To: A.B.Normal
Soon the Terrorist US will be sending more scholars to GITMO.

Explain to the world that we have opened a think tank for the study of Islam and these distinguished scholars have been allowed to join the 'staff' at al-Gitmo.

14 posted on 07/13/2005 9:39:43 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: wideawake

Yes, you're likely right. But we can always hope that he'll end up having his butt impacted by some who were pernally touched by a loss on 9-11.


15 posted on 07/13/2005 9:42:32 AM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: NormsRevenge
A couple more facts:

U.S.-Based Islamic Scholar Gets Life for Encouraging Followers to Fight After Sept. 11 Attacks


Published: Jul 13, 2005 ALEXANDRIA, Va. (AP) - A prominent Islamic scholar who exhorted his followers after the Sept. 11 attacks to join the Taliban and fight U.S. troops was sentenced Wednesday to life in prison.

Ali al-Timimi of Fairfax was convicted in April of soliciting others to levy war against the United States, inducing others to aid the Taliban, and inducing others to use firearms in violation of federal law.

The cleric addressed the court for 10 minutes before his sentencing.

"I will not admit guilt nor seek the court's mercy. I do this simply because I am innocent," al-Timimi said.

Assistant U.S. Attorney Gordon Kromberg said al-Timimi "hates the United States" and has called for its destruction.

"He's allowed to do that in this country," Kromberg said. "He's not allowed to solicit treason. He deserves every day he gets."

U.S. District Judge Leonie Brinkema said the evidence supported the mandatory life sentence. The judge had earlier left open the possibility that she would toss out some of the counts.

About 50 supporters were in court for al-Timimi, who waved to his wife as he was escorted from court. She declined to comment.

Prosecutors portrayed al-Timimi, a native U.S. citizen, has having "rock star" status among his followers, who frequently heard his lectures at a small mosque in Falls Church.

In particular, prosecutors said, the defendant wielded enormous influence among a group of young Muslim men in northern Virginia who played paintball games in 2000 and 2001. Authorities said they were a "Virginia jihad network" training for holy war around the globe.

Nine members of the group have been convicted for their roles in the conspiracy, with prison terms ranging from three years to life.

Al-Timimi's lawyers argued that their client merely suggested that Muslims may want to leave the United States after Sept. 11 because of the potential for a backlash against them.

But he was accused of telling a group of young Muslim men just days after the attack that an apocalyptic battle between Muslims and nonbelievers was at hand and that Muslims were obligated to engage in holy war. He told the group that defense of the Taliban was a requirement and that U.S. troops were a legitimate target, according to court testimony.

Several of the men who heard Al-Timimi's speech traveled days later to Pakistan and began training with a militant Islamic group called Lashkar-e-Taiba, officials said. Some testified that their goal was to obtain training that would allow them to fight alongside the Taliban, though none actually made it to Afghanistan.

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16 posted on 07/13/2005 9:42:51 AM PDT by TheOtherOne (I often sacrifice my spelling on the alter of speed™)
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To: theDentist

"Stick him in the general population."

Absolutely. He won't last long, and for the time he'd be there, he'd be miserable... just what he deserves.

In reality, they'll put him somewhere nice, and he'll be paroled in 7 years. I never did figure out how life translated to 7 years.


17 posted on 07/13/2005 9:42:55 AM PDT by brownsfan (Post No Bills)
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To: theDentist

Arayn Brotherhood is going to love this guy (literally)


18 posted on 07/13/2005 9:43:25 AM PDT by Mikey_1962
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To: bkepley
You won't get an argument from me. The article doesn't define "scholar". One usually looks in a dictionary. Then again, have we defined "is"? BTW, my beef is the the MSM calls a TERRORIST a SCHOLAR!.

Ref http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=scholar and http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=scholar and http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=terrorist and http://thesaurus.reference.com/search?q=terrorist

19 posted on 07/13/2005 9:43:56 AM PDT by A.B.Normal (Craziness is doing the same thing and expecting a different result, ask a Liberal.)
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To: A.B.Normal; aculeus; general_re; hellinahandcart; Tijeras_Slim; Constitution Day; Petronski; ...
Now we sentence "scholars" to life in prison!

First they came for the “honor students,” then they came for the “scholars.”

;-)

20 posted on 07/13/2005 9:44:06 AM PDT by dighton
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