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Nominee May Come From Outside the Judiciary - (I hope President Bush doesn't take this bait!)
CNSNEWS.COM ^ | JULY 12, 2005 | SUSAN JONES, CnsNews Senior Editor

Posted on 07/12/2005 4:57:23 PM PDT by CHARLITE

The four senators who met with President Bush at the White House Tuesday morning discussed a number of potential Supreme Court nominees, but Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said he thinks they've agreed not to name those names.

"We have a long ways to go," Reid (D-Nev.) told reporters after the breakfast meeting at the White House. He said President Bush has hundreds or thousands of names to go through and "he didn't give us any names."

Nevertheless, Reid added, "There were a lot of names discussed at the meeting, of which we're not going to talk about any of those names. I think that's an agreement that we have, and we'll stick by that."

[The names of women and Hispanics did come up, Sen. Patrick Leahy later told Fox News.]

Reid said there's been enough "discussion, debate and contention on judges." He said he hopes to avoid that scenario in the weeks ahead.

Reid said the friendly relationship between the chairman and ranking member of the Senate Judiciary Committee - Sens. Arlen Specter (R-Pa.) and Pat Leahy (D-Vt.) -- have "set an example" of how Reid and Sen. Frist should get along.

"I feel comfortable and good that we are going to be able to have someone who is a consensus candidate. I certainly hope so," Reid concluded.

A consensus candidate is anyone acceptable to Democrats.

Diversity

Sen. Arlen Specter, chairman of the Senate Judiciary Committee, called it a "very productive session," with President Bush listening to the "advice" offered by senators.

Specter said it's possible that the Supreme Court nominee will not come from the traditional circuit courts.

Speaking for himself, Specter said it "would be good to have some diversity" on the Supreme Court, and he mentioned the possibility of having a former senator on the court, as has happened in the past.

"That was one item that the president listened [to]," Specter said. The U.S. Constitution does not require a Supreme Court justice to be an attorney or a judge.

'Uniter'

Sen. Patrick Leahy, the ranking Democrat on the Judiciary Committee, called Tuesday's meeting with Bush a "first step" in the consultation process, and he also seemed to back the idea of selecting someone from outside the "judicial monastery."

Leahy said whoever the nominee is, it must be somebody who would "unite us and not divide us" and somebody who would garner bipartisan support.

"That would be a great thing to do for the integrity of the court, for the comfort level of the country, because after all, the court is there for every one of the 280 million Americans, not there for any special interest group on the right or the left."

Leahy called this an important decision, and he alluded to the possibility that there may be similar decisions ahead -- an oblique reference to the widely discussed possibility that Chief Justice William Rehnquist may also retire soon.

'Dignity'

Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist said senators made it "very clear" to the president that they're ready to engage in a "fair" process that "treats the nominee with dignity and respect and that will be conducted in a timely way."

Specter told reporters, "The word ought to go out that the special interest groups vastly overstate their influence" in the selection process; and that much of what they're doing is "counterproductive, and a lot of the times, insulting."

Frist said there's a general agreement that the goal is to have a nominee on the court by early October.

Sen. Reid told reporters there is no timeline for the president to name someone. "I would hope he would do it in the next couple of weeks," Reid said, adding that it's up to the president.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 109th; bush; judicial; judiciary; negotiations; nominating; nominees; outside; process; scotus; selections; supremecourt
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To: CHARLITE

I'd rather have a non-lawyer who's commitment to upholding the Consitution has not been corrupted by law school and the legal profession.


21 posted on 07/12/2005 5:53:49 PM PDT by Paleo Conservative (Hey! Hey! Ho! Ho! Andrew Heyward's got to go!)
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To: stylin19a

please, please, please, please!!


22 posted on 07/12/2005 5:54:40 PM PDT by TNdandelion
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To: Tax-chick

he's fine on the 2nd, not so fine on abortion. He also was one of the Senator that voted not to impeach Cinton.


23 posted on 07/12/2005 6:16:09 PM PDT by Coldwater Creek ("Over there, Over there, we will be there until it is Over there.")
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To: CHARLITE

I'd love to see a straight-thinking, conservative engineer be appointed.


24 posted on 07/12/2005 6:18:11 PM PDT by MortMan (Mostly Harmless)
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To: CHARLITE

Steve Largent!!!

Oklahoma - Steve Largent - 97 Lifetime Rating


25 posted on 07/12/2005 6:21:04 PM PDT by RightFighter
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To: CHARLITE
Bush will make a fine selection. Conservatives have not yet opposed a single candidate he has named for any judicial position.

There has been a very rare whimper, but he's not disappointed us yet.

26 posted on 07/12/2005 6:23:00 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: CHARLITE
The U.S. Constitution does not require a Supreme Court justice to be an attorney or a judge.

It was this type of thinking that put Earl Warren on the court and lead to the start of the judicial tyranny that is still tearing the Republic apart. (Warren was a lawyer and prosecutor, but had never served as a judge.)

27 posted on 07/12/2005 6:25:30 PM PDT by wagglebee ("We are ready for the greatest achievements in the history of freedom." -- President Bush, 1/20/05)
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To: CHARLITE
Why would we consent to this Democrat idea of "going outside the judiciary" (nominating a Senator!) for new justices?

Because, this is nothing more and nothingless than good cop/bad cop. We're all getting screwed...but to us, it feels better when the pubs do it.

As long as the economy stays the same or grows moderately, we all feel something is really happening, while all the time, our rights are being eroded by those in power, be it pub or dem.

We drilling in anwar yet?

Smoke and mirrors.

FMCDH(BITS)

28 posted on 07/12/2005 6:30:58 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Dog Gone
... but he's not disappointed us yet.

Yeah, he has. McPain/Findgold is a major one. You think that was a "simple mistake"? Do you think any nomination to the Supremes won't go unchallenged by his buddies on the other aisle? Do you think there's a real difference between the parties?

We're the shmucks here. We're gettin' played by both sides.

BTW, have we started drilling in ANWAR yet?

FMCDH(BITS)

29 posted on 07/12/2005 6:44:46 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: nothingnew

When did he nominate either McCain or Feingold to a judicial position?


30 posted on 07/12/2005 6:46:18 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Dog Gone
but Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said he thinks they've agreed not to name those names.

But then he did.

And then he complained that the president just listened, didn't talk -- didn't share HIS choices with them.

And Reid said:

Officials familiar with the meeting said Reid was more blunt in private, telling Bush he didn't want to wind up reading about the president's eventual pick in the newspaper without having had a chance to offer his views beforehand.

Let's take a poll to see how many people think that's going to happen, okay?

Dems Leak Bush's Court Short List

31 posted on 07/12/2005 6:49:57 PM PDT by Howlin (Who is Judith Miller covering up for?)
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To: CHARLITE
A consensus candidate is anyone acceptable to Democrats. "

I can't believe that sentence made it past the editors

32 posted on 07/12/2005 6:51:23 PM PDT by Mr. K
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To: stylin19a
ex-Sen. Fred Thompson

Unlikely. Thompson is the guy that have that'll make sure that nominee isn't Borked and is supposed to see the nominee through the process and around the pitfalls. Hard to do if he's the nominee. (Granted, Cheney interviewed potential VP picks and then became the VP pick, but that was different -- Cheney didn't have to guide himself through anything that anyone else wouldn't have had to do.)

TS

33 posted on 07/12/2005 6:54:07 PM PDT by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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To: stylin19a

Tonight on Dom Giordano's show, Bill Sammon suggested Ann Coulter... I think that would be great...


34 posted on 07/12/2005 6:54:15 PM PDT by abner (Looking for a new tagline- Next outrage please!- Got it! PRIVATE PROPERTY RIGHTS LOST IN THE USA!)
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To: Dog Gone
When did he nominate either McCain or Feingold to a judicial position?

I wasn't talking about "noms", I was talking about "disappointments".

Guess we're not on the same page.

BTW, are we drilling in ANWAR yet?

feh!...pfffft!

FMCDH(BITS)

35 posted on 07/12/2005 6:57:20 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: Howlin
Bush is going to do what he thinks is best. He'll play the political charade for the hell of it, and then he'll do what he wanted to do all along.

His whole political career, he's played the "inclusive card" and then done what he intended all along. When it's not to the liking of the far right wing, they scream sell-out. And the left-wing screams that it was a charade. The moderates and most conservatives think it's great.

It's been a winning strategy and he's been consistently doing it for as long as I've known him.

36 posted on 07/12/2005 7:02:15 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: nothingnew
Well, this thread was about judicial nominations, so I guess you're not even on the right thread, much less the same page.

BTW, drilling will begin in ANWR. There are existing rules about notification of applications for bids to lease, etc. If we're a nation of laws, those have to be observed or repealed and replaced with new ones.

37 posted on 07/12/2005 7:06:17 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: CHARLITE
I hope President Bush doesn't take this bait

Considering the fact that he doesn't have the brains of a big mouthed bass, it's hard to tell what bait he'll take!

38 posted on 07/12/2005 7:16:46 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan..)
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To: Brilliant
I don't have any problem with him selecting someone outside the judiciary. How about Mark Levin or Ann Coulter?

Please, please, please FReepers.

Stop posting these Ann Coulter things without a smiley face.

39 posted on 07/12/2005 7:21:30 PM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan..)
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To: nothingnew

I've looked this up before, and today's composition of the court is unusually weighted toward the professional judge.

I want to say that there have traditionally been 5 career paths to the Supreme Court, all roughly equally used until recently, and I *think* they are:

1. Politics
2. Executive Branch
3. Private attorney (maybe includes law professor)
4. Federal court
5. State court

This was most recent position before confirmation, and many in one path had experience in another.

I'll have to sit down and actually do it again, but a cursory view of the CJ's is:

Executive branch: 4 (Marshall, Taney, Chase, Vinson)
Politics: 3 (Ellsworth, White, Warren)
Fed judge: 3 (Stone, Burger, Rehnquist)
Attorney: 1 (Jay)
State judge: 0
couldn't figure out: 5 (Rutledge, Fuller, Waite, Taft, Hughes)

Possibly all the ones in the last category were private attorneys.
Hughes: associate justice, 1910-16, presidential candidate, 1916, ? 1916-30.
Taft: US President, 1909-13, ? 1913-21

Nowadays it is difficult to appoint a sitting senator; it would require special legislation to lower the pay.

However the Fred Thompson idea is a good one.







40 posted on 07/12/2005 7:34:21 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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