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Lawyer: Cooper “Burned” Karl Rove
NRO ^ | 7/12/05 | Byron York

Posted on 07/12/2005 1:36:26 PM PDT by Steven W.

The lawyer for top White House adviser Karl Rove says that Time reporter Matthew Cooper "burned" Rove after a conversation between the two men concerning former ambassador Joseph Wilson's fact-finding mission to Niger and the role Wilson's wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, played in arranging that trip. Nevertheless, attorney Robert Luskin says Rove long ago gave his permission for all reporters, including Cooper, to tell prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald about their conversations with Rove.

In an interview with National Review Online, Luskin compared the contents of a July 11, 2003, internal Time e-mail written by Cooper with the wording of a story Cooper co-wrote a few days later. "By any definition, he burned Karl Rove," Luskin said of Cooper. "If you read what Karl said to him and read how Cooper characterizes it in the article, he really spins it in a pretty ugly fashion to make it seem like people in the White House were affirmatively reaching out to reporters to try to get them to them to report negative information about Plame."

First the e-mail. According to a report in Newsweek, Cooper's e-mail to Time Washington bureau chief Michael Duffy said, "Spoke to Rove on double super secret background for about two mins before he went on vacation..." Cooper said that Rove had warned him away from getting "too far out on Wilson," and then passed on Rove's statement that neither Vice President Dick Cheney nor CIA Director George Tenet had picked Wilson for the trip; "it was, KR said, wilson's wife, who apparently works at the agency on wmd issues who authorized the trip." Finally — all of this is according to the Newsweek report — Cooper's e-mail said that "not only the genesis of the trip is flawed an[d] suspect but so is the report. he [Rove] implied strongly that there's still plenty to implicate iraqi interest in acquiring uranium fro[m] Niger..."

A few days after sending the e-mail, Cooper co-wrote an article headlined "A War on Wilson?" that appeared on Time's website. The story began, "Has the Bush administration declared war on a former ambassador who conducted a fact-finding mission to probe possible Iraqi interest in African uranium? Perhaps."

The story continued:

Some government officials have noted to Time in interviews (as well as to syndicated columnist Robert Novak) that Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, is a CIA official who monitors the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. These officials have suggested that she was involved in her husband's being dispatched to Niger to investigate reports that Saddam Hussein's government had sought to purchase large quantities of uranium ore, sometimes referred to as yellow cake, which is used to build nuclear devices.

Plame's role in Wilson's assignment was later confirmed by a Senate Intelligence Committee investigation.

Luskin told NRO that the circumstances of Rove's conversation with Cooper undercut Time's suggestion of a White House "war on Wilson." According to Luskin, Cooper originally called Rove — not the other way around — and said he was working on a story on welfare reform. After some conversation about that issue, Luskin said, Cooper changed the subject to the weapons of mass destruction issue, and that was when the two had the brief talk that became the subject of so much legal wrangling. According to Luskin, the fact that Rove did not call Cooper; that the original purpose of the call, as Cooper told Rove, was welfare reform; that only after Cooper brought the WMD issue up did Rove discuss Wilson — all are "indications that this was not a calculated effort by the White House to get this story out."

"Look at the Cooper e-mail," Luskin continues. "Karl speaks to him on double super secret background...I don't think that you can read that e-mail and conclude that what Karl was trying to do was to get Cooper to publish the name of Wilson's wife."

Nor, says Luskin, was Rove trying to "out" a covert CIA agent or "smear" her husband. "What Karl was trying to do, in a very short conversation initiated by Cooper on another subject, was to warn Time away from publishing things that were going to be established as false." Luskin points out that on the evening of July 11, 2003, just hours after the Rove-Cooper conversation, then-CIA Director George Tenet released a statement that undermined some of Wilson's public assertions about his report. "Karl knew that that [Tenet] statement was in gestation," says Luskin. "I think a fair reading of the e-mail was that he was trying to warn Cooper off from going out on a limb on [Wilson's] allegations."

Luskin also shed light on the waiver that Rove signed releasing Cooper from any confidentiality agreement about the conversation. Luskin says Rove originally signed a waiver in December 2003 or in January 2004 (Luskin did not remember the exact date). The waiver, Luskin continues, was written by the office of special prosecutor Fitzgerald, and Rove signed it without making any changes — with the understanding that it applied to anyone with whom he had discussed the Wilson/Plame matter. "It was everyone's expectation that the waiver would be as broad as it could be," Luskin says.

Cooper and New York Times reporter Judith Miller have expressed concerns that such waivers (top Cheney aide Lewis Libby also signed one) might have been coerced and thus might not have represented Rove's true feelings. Yet from the end of 2003 or beginning of 2004, until last Wednesday, Luskin says, Rove had no idea that there might be any problem with the waiver.

It was not until that Wednesday, the day Cooper was to appear in court, that that changed. "Cooper's lawyer called us and said, "Can you confirm that the waiver encompasses Cooper?" Luskin recalls. "I was amazed. He's a lawyer. It's not rocket science. [The waiver] says 'any person.' It's that broad. So I said, 'Look, I understand that you want reassurances. If Fitzgerald would like Karl to provide you with some other assurances, we will.'" Luskin says he got in touch with the prosecutor — "Rule number one is cooperate with Fitzgerald, and there is no rule number two," Luskin says — and asked what to do. According to Luskin, Fitzgerald said to go ahead, and Luskin called Cooper's lawyer back. "I said that I can reaffirm that the waiver that Karl signed applied to any conversations that Karl and Cooper had," Luskin says. After that — which represented no change from the situation that had existed for 18 months — Cooper made a dramatic public announcement and agreed to testify.

A few other notes: Luskin declined to say how Rove knew that Plame "apparently" (to use Cooper's word) worked at the CIA. But Luskin told NRO that Rove is not hiding behind the defense that he did not identify Wilson's wife because he did not specifically use her name. Asked if that argument was too legalistic, Luskin said, "I agree with you. I think it's a detail."

Luskin also addressed the question of whether Rove is a "subject" of the investigation. Luskin says Fitzgerald has told Rove he is not a "target" of the investigation, but, according to Luskin, Fitzgerald has also made it clear that virtually anyone whose conduct falls within the scope of the investigation, including Rove, is considered a "subject" of the probe. "'Target' is something we all understand, a very alarming term," Luskin says. On the other hand, Fitzgerald "has indicated to us that he takes a very broad view of what a subject is."

Finally, Luskin conceded that Rove is legally free to publicly discuss his actions, including his grand-jury testimony. Rove has not spoken publicly, Luskin says, because Fitzgerald specifically asked him not to.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: byronyork; cialeak; cooper; lies; plame; rove; wilson
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To: Steven W.
TIMES REPORTER USED DECEIT AND COOKED STORY IN ATTEMPT TO SMEAR ROVE'S REPUTATION
21 posted on 07/12/2005 1:58:55 PM PDT by NoClones
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To: Steven W.

BTW ,Cooper is Mr. Mandy Grunwald(Clinton administration hack)


22 posted on 07/12/2005 1:59:22 PM PDT by sportscaster (....LET'S ROLL)
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To: Steven W.

Cooper, like Rather, wanted to believe their story was true and passionately wanted to hurt this administration.


23 posted on 07/12/2005 2:04:13 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: Shermy
According to Luskin, Cooper originally called Rove — not the other way around — and said he was working on a story on welfare reform. After some conversation about that issue, Luskin said, Cooper changed the subject to the weapons of mass destruction issue, and that was when the two had the brief talk that became the subject of so much legal wrangling. According to Luskin, the fact that Rove did not call Cooper; that the original purpose of the call, as Cooper told Rove, was welfare reform; that only after Cooper brought the WMD issue up did Rove discuss Wilson — all are "indications that this was not a calculated effort by the White House to get this story out."

This just blew up in Coopers face....there is no doubt White House Phone logs....and Luskin would not have brought up who called who first without the proof to back his client up.

Cooper just got caught in a trap.

24 posted on 07/12/2005 2:05:13 PM PDT by Dog
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To: eureka!

Why would Rove or any other Republican official trust, let alone talk to, the reporters from Time, NewsWeek or the NYT etc.

These left-wing rags don't publish any facts anyway so there is no point giving them background for a story.


25 posted on 07/12/2005 2:05:33 PM PDT by JustDoItAlways
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To: Steven W.
Why would Cooper name Rove as his confidant when he was not bound by any confidentiality?

Why is the other reporterette not naming names? ...her name must not be a republican?

26 posted on 07/12/2005 2:06:31 PM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: sportscaster
Cooper is Mr. Mandy Grunwald

OMG!!

27 posted on 07/12/2005 2:06:44 PM PDT by Salvey (ancest)
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To: cardinal4

"Prime suspect #1. Joe Wilson
Suspect #2. George Tenet (Shermy's call and one I havd never considered)
Suspect #3.Cooper himself. It is quite plausible that during the course of Cooper's career, that he could have stumbled upon the connection between Wilson and his wife."

Since Matthew Cooper is MR. Mandy Grunwald (and SHE is one of Hillary's best buddies), I would add the Clintons to the list of suspects.


28 posted on 07/12/2005 2:06:46 PM PDT by Maria S
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To: Shermy

This is a non-story... The real story is who leaked the information to the New York Times Reporter, Miller.

nick


29 posted on 07/12/2005 2:07:30 PM PDT by nikos1121
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To: JustDoItAlways

Good point. If they didn't though, then there would never be any sort of counter to the lies. It sure has to be frustrating though...


30 posted on 07/12/2005 2:07:53 PM PDT by eureka! (It will not be safe to vote Democrat for a long, long, time...)
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To: Maria S

All roads lead to the Clintons.


31 posted on 07/12/2005 2:07:58 PM PDT by mystery-ak (The real Supreme Court meets up here...God)
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To: generalissimoduane

Fyi...


32 posted on 07/12/2005 2:08:18 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Steven W.
Media hyped... and a prosecutor out for Rove's hide. They pull off a minor victory just with all the implied allegations.

We can't win in this game... you got a stacked deck and most of the other players have extra cards.

33 posted on 07/12/2005 2:08:18 PM PDT by johnny7 (“'Deservin ain't got 'nothin to do with it!” -Will Money)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
Matthews, Gregory, etc. do not have a clue that nobody in the entire county gives a damn about Karl Rove other than the lunatic left.

LOL! So true. Yesterday I was trying to explain to my wife who and what the deal was with this case. She's very smart, but doesn't give a damn about political intrigue. Her basic response: "This isn't news. Who cares about any of it?"

The Democrat Party and the MSM are imploding right in front of our eyes. It isn't even worth one word from our side. These people are not living in the real world!!!

Indeed. The spur for our conversation was an NPR story that tossed out names and details that require one to have followed the story in some detail since its inception. The story was and is utterly irrelevant, except insofar as it helps to provide political traction for the next round of partisan crap. By pursuing this stuff, the D's and MSM are indeed marginalizing themselves from normal folks. (And this, IMHO, helps to explain the red/blue dichotomy on the electoral maps.)

34 posted on 07/12/2005 2:09:19 PM PDT by r9etb
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To: ravingnutter

Looky here...


35 posted on 07/12/2005 2:09:46 PM PDT by mystery-ak (The real Supreme Court meets up here...God)
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To: cardinal4
"it was, KR said, wilson's wife, who apparently works at the agency on wmd issues who authorized the trip."

Suspect #3.Cooper himself.

The language of the email is ambiguous. It's possible that all Rove said was "Wilson's wife authorized the trip." The "who apparently works at the agency on wmd issues" clause could just be Cooper's own background knowledge. It isn't clear from the email.

36 posted on 07/12/2005 2:10:00 PM PDT by Terabitten (Illegal immigration causes Representation without Taxation.)
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To: Steven W.

Profound word of advise - If you have to talk to the media - DON'T.


37 posted on 07/12/2005 2:12:37 PM PDT by sandydipper (Less government is best government!)
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To: b4its2late

If Cooper is Mandy Grundwalds soulmate, the deception believably contrived and left agenda driven. Does anyone think the Clintonistas would hesitate to behave in a manner like this. I believe they would. I expect them to.


38 posted on 07/12/2005 2:13:58 PM PDT by Texas Songwriter
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To: Shermy

Thanks; important article.


39 posted on 07/12/2005 2:14:07 PM PDT by Fedora
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To: cardinal4
It is quite plausible that during the course of Cooper's career, that he could have stumbled upon the connection between Wilson and his wife.
 
Actually, until the day after the Novak story, you could find this out just by Googling Joe Wilson and looking at his home page.  She's not undercover and hasn't been for years.  She's an intelligence analyst.
 
Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

40 posted on 07/12/2005 2:14:25 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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