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Lawyer: Cooper “Burned” Karl Rove
NRO ^ | 7/12/05 | Byron York

Posted on 07/12/2005 1:36:26 PM PDT by Steven W.

The lawyer for top White House adviser Karl Rove says that Time reporter Matthew Cooper "burned" Rove after a conversation between the two men concerning former ambassador Joseph Wilson's fact-finding mission to Niger and the role Wilson's wife, CIA employee Valerie Plame, played in arranging that trip. Nevertheless, attorney Robert Luskin says Rove long ago gave his permission for all reporters, including Cooper, to tell prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald about their conversations with Rove.

In an interview with National Review Online, Luskin compared the contents of a July 11, 2003, internal Time e-mail written by Cooper with the wording of a story Cooper co-wrote a few days later. "By any definition, he burned Karl Rove," Luskin said of Cooper. "If you read what Karl said to him and read how Cooper characterizes it in the article, he really spins it in a pretty ugly fashion to make it seem like people in the White House were affirmatively reaching out to reporters to try to get them to them to report negative information about Plame."

First the e-mail. According to a report in Newsweek, Cooper's e-mail to Time Washington bureau chief Michael Duffy said, "Spoke to Rove on double super secret background for about two mins before he went on vacation..." Cooper said that Rove had warned him away from getting "too far out on Wilson," and then passed on Rove's statement that neither Vice President Dick Cheney nor CIA Director George Tenet had picked Wilson for the trip; "it was, KR said, wilson's wife, who apparently works at the agency on wmd issues who authorized the trip." Finally — all of this is according to the Newsweek report — Cooper's e-mail said that "not only the genesis of the trip is flawed an[d] suspect but so is the report. he [Rove] implied strongly that there's still plenty to implicate iraqi interest in acquiring uranium fro[m] Niger..."

A few days after sending the e-mail, Cooper co-wrote an article headlined "A War on Wilson?" that appeared on Time's website. The story began, "Has the Bush administration declared war on a former ambassador who conducted a fact-finding mission to probe possible Iraqi interest in African uranium? Perhaps."

The story continued:

Some government officials have noted to Time in interviews (as well as to syndicated columnist Robert Novak) that Wilson's wife, Valerie Plame, is a CIA official who monitors the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction. These officials have suggested that she was involved in her husband's being dispatched to Niger to investigate reports that Saddam Hussein's government had sought to purchase large quantities of uranium ore, sometimes referred to as yellow cake, which is used to build nuclear devices.

Plame's role in Wilson's assignment was later confirmed by a Senate Intelligence Committee investigation.

Luskin told NRO that the circumstances of Rove's conversation with Cooper undercut Time's suggestion of a White House "war on Wilson." According to Luskin, Cooper originally called Rove — not the other way around — and said he was working on a story on welfare reform. After some conversation about that issue, Luskin said, Cooper changed the subject to the weapons of mass destruction issue, and that was when the two had the brief talk that became the subject of so much legal wrangling. According to Luskin, the fact that Rove did not call Cooper; that the original purpose of the call, as Cooper told Rove, was welfare reform; that only after Cooper brought the WMD issue up did Rove discuss Wilson — all are "indications that this was not a calculated effort by the White House to get this story out."

"Look at the Cooper e-mail," Luskin continues. "Karl speaks to him on double super secret background...I don't think that you can read that e-mail and conclude that what Karl was trying to do was to get Cooper to publish the name of Wilson's wife."

Nor, says Luskin, was Rove trying to "out" a covert CIA agent or "smear" her husband. "What Karl was trying to do, in a very short conversation initiated by Cooper on another subject, was to warn Time away from publishing things that were going to be established as false." Luskin points out that on the evening of July 11, 2003, just hours after the Rove-Cooper conversation, then-CIA Director George Tenet released a statement that undermined some of Wilson's public assertions about his report. "Karl knew that that [Tenet] statement was in gestation," says Luskin. "I think a fair reading of the e-mail was that he was trying to warn Cooper off from going out on a limb on [Wilson's] allegations."

Luskin also shed light on the waiver that Rove signed releasing Cooper from any confidentiality agreement about the conversation. Luskin says Rove originally signed a waiver in December 2003 or in January 2004 (Luskin did not remember the exact date). The waiver, Luskin continues, was written by the office of special prosecutor Fitzgerald, and Rove signed it without making any changes — with the understanding that it applied to anyone with whom he had discussed the Wilson/Plame matter. "It was everyone's expectation that the waiver would be as broad as it could be," Luskin says.

Cooper and New York Times reporter Judith Miller have expressed concerns that such waivers (top Cheney aide Lewis Libby also signed one) might have been coerced and thus might not have represented Rove's true feelings. Yet from the end of 2003 or beginning of 2004, until last Wednesday, Luskin says, Rove had no idea that there might be any problem with the waiver.

It was not until that Wednesday, the day Cooper was to appear in court, that that changed. "Cooper's lawyer called us and said, "Can you confirm that the waiver encompasses Cooper?" Luskin recalls. "I was amazed. He's a lawyer. It's not rocket science. [The waiver] says 'any person.' It's that broad. So I said, 'Look, I understand that you want reassurances. If Fitzgerald would like Karl to provide you with some other assurances, we will.'" Luskin says he got in touch with the prosecutor — "Rule number one is cooperate with Fitzgerald, and there is no rule number two," Luskin says — and asked what to do. According to Luskin, Fitzgerald said to go ahead, and Luskin called Cooper's lawyer back. "I said that I can reaffirm that the waiver that Karl signed applied to any conversations that Karl and Cooper had," Luskin says. After that — which represented no change from the situation that had existed for 18 months — Cooper made a dramatic public announcement and agreed to testify.

A few other notes: Luskin declined to say how Rove knew that Plame "apparently" (to use Cooper's word) worked at the CIA. But Luskin told NRO that Rove is not hiding behind the defense that he did not identify Wilson's wife because he did not specifically use her name. Asked if that argument was too legalistic, Luskin said, "I agree with you. I think it's a detail."

Luskin also addressed the question of whether Rove is a "subject" of the investigation. Luskin says Fitzgerald has told Rove he is not a "target" of the investigation, but, according to Luskin, Fitzgerald has also made it clear that virtually anyone whose conduct falls within the scope of the investigation, including Rove, is considered a "subject" of the probe. "'Target' is something we all understand, a very alarming term," Luskin says. On the other hand, Fitzgerald "has indicated to us that he takes a very broad view of what a subject is."

Finally, Luskin conceded that Rove is legally free to publicly discuss his actions, including his grand-jury testimony. Rove has not spoken publicly, Luskin says, because Fitzgerald specifically asked him not to.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: byronyork; cialeak; cooper; lies; plame; rove; wilson
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To: Steven W.

I don't understand why a smart man like Rove would even be thinking about protecting Time and what stories they write. So what if they got it all wrong about Joe Wilson. Let Time pay the penalty. Why would Rove even care what erronous stories Time prints? I think it is just too bad Rove said anything to a reporter and expect that reporter to respect his confidence. That's just too stupid.


161 posted on 07/12/2005 6:02:17 PM PDT by conservative blonde (Conservative Blonde)
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To: cyncooper
She has not been compelled to testify at that one, liberal NYC judge.

She does not want to get in front of any GJ

Once she is sworn in she is fair game. The prosecutor has nearly free rein.

It is my understanding that Fitzgerald could simply read the Plame GJ testimony to the other one.

162 posted on 07/12/2005 6:05:23 PM PDT by robomurph
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To: oceanview
Yes, I heard Mark Levin too.

Poor Rove has to talk to all the scum; it's what he's being paid to do.

Since "we" don't think like the LIBERALS do, it's hard to imagine just what they'll pull. But yes, Rove et al really need to set up a WAR ROOM and be three steps ahead of those who are against us.

Not to worry,though, all of this will eventually get out to the public. Do YOUR part and explain it to everyone you know.

163 posted on 07/12/2005 6:12:01 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: robomurph
Man, if she thinks she's going to get out of this one in October, someone should buy her a clue.

If Rove is not defending himself because Fitzgerald has asked him not to say anything, it means that Fitz is onto something pretty big.

164 posted on 07/12/2005 6:12:33 PM PDT by McGavin999
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To: Fury

bttt


165 posted on 07/12/2005 6:14:08 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: andyk
Karl speaks to him on double super secret background Do they just make this stuff up? I'll talk to you, but only on quadruple extra-spiffy background.

It's not just that it was on "double super secret background," but that "background", "secret background", and "super secret background" still weren't good enough for Rove to trust the reporter.

And, according to Luskin, Rove still got burned by Cooper.

-PJ

166 posted on 07/12/2005 6:14:28 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (It's still not safe to vote Democrat.)
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To: Steven W.

Matthew Cooper joined TIME as deputy Washington bureau chief in July 1999. Previously, Cooper was deputy Washington bureau chief and national correspondent for Newsweek. He joined the magazine as deputy national bureau chief and national correspondent in August 1996. His coverage of national affairs included the Clinton scandals, the impeachment trial, Newt Gingrich's resignation and the ensuing power squabble in the GOP, the aborted tobacco settlement, U.S.-Iraq relations and the 2000 presidential campaign.
Prior to Newsweek, Cooper was a senior editor at The New Republic, where he wrote the acclaimed "White House Watch" column. He profiled many political insiders. Previously, Cooper was a White House correspondent for U.S. News & World Report, where he covered Clinton's 1992 presidential campaign. He also served as the magazine's Atlanta bureau chief. Cooper was also an editor at The Washington Monthly, where he wrote and edited articles on culture and politics. From 1986 to 1987, he was a Washington correspondent for Thompson Newspapers, and from 1984 to 1986, Cooper served as a writer and researcher at the U.S. Commission on Civil Rights.

Cooper moonlights as a stand-up comedian, and in November 1998 was named "Washington's Funniest Celebrity" after an evening of comedy at Washington's Improv. His Clinton impersonation has been praised by Vanity Fair and New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd praised him for an ability to "spin whimsy out of smarmy," proclaiming, "I want to be more like Matt Cooper."

A New Jersey native, Cooper is a 1984 graduate of Columbia College in New York City and lives in Washington D.C. with his wife, Mandy Grunwald, and their son.


167 posted on 07/12/2005 6:14:32 PM PDT by Ua Ruairc of Bréifne
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To: thoughtomator
Firing squad your preference?

No. Judith Miller doesn't belong in jail period. She has no obligation to burn a source over this phoney Wilson/Plame BS, and taking that position doesn't make her a traitor. For all we know Rove called her with the same message he had for Cooper, and unlike Cooper she chose to listen to him and keep her mouth shut.

Now if you want to order up a firing squad for the NYT editorial board, I'll have no objection.

168 posted on 07/12/2005 6:23:10 PM PDT by mac_truck (Aide toi et dieu l’aidera)
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
The Democrat Party and the MSM are imploding right in front of our eyes.

Amazing, isnt it?

Only one time before in the history of this great republic did a major politcal party die and dissappear. Now it's happening right before our very eyes. The death throes are truly amazing to watch. Especially the likes of Ted Kennedy, who once would be President.

169 posted on 07/12/2005 7:30:50 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Patriot from Philly
I thought Rove was too smart for this and I suspect he'll have to go.

Come 'on. No Freeper worth his salt would be so easily bamboozled by the lefties. We're made of tougher stuff here, Buck up!

170 posted on 07/12/2005 7:38:16 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (God has blessed Republicans with really stupid enemies.)
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To: Patriot from Philly
Rove is as good as everyone says. I will only be pissed if W screws up on his Supreme Court picks. I am confident that he wont, and Rove will be a part of that. The lefty reporters are plain out lying and twisting themselves into snits trying to make a scandal out of the nonesense that they set up themselves. David Gregory is typical. He is an overgrown teenager from a privleged Family. He is weak and whiny and if caught in a real life situaiton, he would be lost. He needs to be laughed at and ignored. Take Matthew Cooper, he is a fat twisted guy who is married to Mandy Grunwald.

This is an exemplary insight into the Rove-Wilson flap, exposing Matthew Cooper adn the lefty press. Here is the site: http://www.nationalreview.com/york/york200507121626.asp

171 posted on 07/12/2005 7:45:38 PM PDT by ontos-on
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To: JLAGRAYFOX
The Democrat Party and the MSM are imploding right in front of our eyes. It isn't even worth one word from our side. These people are not living in the real world!!!

The Democrats/Libs are just flailing at Bush.
It's so pathetic to see.

Remember the HUGE Bush-Enron scandel? All we heard was "Bush-Enron! Bush-Enron!Bush-Enron!" from the Dems and the MSM day after day.
Until it all turned out to be NOTHING.

And there was the "Bush Lied" mantra and 9/11 Commision that was going to doom Bush etc. etc. And then the stolen election in Ohio. People were going to jail and Bush was going to be kicked out of office.

How often do the Bush haters have to embarrass themselves before they learn?

172 posted on 07/12/2005 7:48:02 PM PDT by Jorge
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To: mystery-ak
"The funny thing about Miller is she never wrote an article....Rush said today that the NYT is actually behind this and won't let Miller release her source....my head hurts from all this spinning.."


NYTimes is where Joe Wilson gave his Niger report, which started all this supposed outing of a supposed cover agent.
173 posted on 07/12/2005 7:58:29 PM PDT by Just mythoughts
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To: Steven W.

Somewhere I read that Wilson "burned" his wife in a ny times op-ed piece. As I recall, the piece appeared before the Novak article. Was I dreaming, or just had too much to drink?


174 posted on 07/12/2005 8:18:14 PM PDT by uscabjd
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To: Steven W.

bump


175 posted on 07/12/2005 8:21:49 PM PDT by lowbridge
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To: All

Is it possible there were consequences to Wilson's article/op-ed or his wife playing Bond girl? Perhaps imprisonment or worse to an active agent? Could that be the focus of the SpecPros now?


176 posted on 07/12/2005 8:47:50 PM PDT by olde north church (Ina Garten...now there's a DISH!!!)
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To: andyk

For God's sake, don't procreate.


177 posted on 07/12/2005 8:52:21 PM PDT by BlackjackPershing
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To: Jorge

So whats next after this one?

Bush is a Lesbian?


178 posted on 07/12/2005 8:54:09 PM PDT by woofie (I Predict:....... Dr. Neil Clark Warren will kill his wife)
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To: Steven W.

Matthew Cooper better not get too comfortable in his street clothes. He may be facing a perjury charge soon. And that isn't going to be result in a few weeks in club Fed - more like years of hard time.


179 posted on 07/12/2005 8:59:42 PM PDT by anymouse
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To: anymouse

This comment from Maureen Dowdy tells us all we need to know about Matt Cooper, that he is beloved by the most moronic leftists around:


Maureen Dowd praised [Cooper] for an ability to "spin whimsy out of smarmy," proclaiming, "I want to be more like Matt Cooper."


180 posted on 07/12/2005 9:41:51 PM PDT by Enchante (Kerry's mere nuisances: Marine Barracks '83, WTC '93, Khobar Towers, Embassy Bombs '98, USS Cole!!!)
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