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Watson: Other than our Governments, who do Muslims think they’re fooling?
Jihad Watch/ Dhimmi Watch ^ | 7/9/2005 | D.C. Watson

Posted on 07/12/2005 7:16:57 AM PDT by Piledriver

On Thursday, July 7, 2005, adherents of Islam, the “religion of pieces,” once again demonstrated their expertise in sneak attacking innocent, unsuspecting people. This time in London, England. Dozens were murdered, while hundreds were injured.

Last year, on March 11/2004, it was Madrid, Spain. On October 12, 2002, it was Bali, Indonesia. Although Muslims have committed other atrocities as well, Western governments are quick to jump to their defense, proclaiming that most Muslims are good, law-abiding people. Ever since September 11, 2001, we’ve had to listen to President Bush, Prime Minister Blair, and other world leaders describe Islam as a “religion of peace” and tell us that “the vast and overwhelming majority of Muslims both here and abroad are decent and law abiding people who abhor this kind of terrorism every bit as much as we do."

There’s one question that they should be answering. Where is the evidence of this? Where is the evidence that Islam is a peaceful religion? What have Muslims done to demonstrate to the civilized world that they have come in peace?

If they aren’t blowing things up, they’re whining to Western governments, attempting to garner special privileges just for being Muslims. All one has to do is look at the current conflicts around the world to see who's involved.

Darfur, Sudan, the Philippines, India/Pakistan, Israel/Palestine, Nigeria, Kosovo, Egypt, Indonesia, and Algeria. All of these conflicts involve Muslims.

In the West, Muslim immigration has brought about turmoil and crime to secular nations, where Muslims work to implement Islamic law. They refuse to follow the laws of the lands they’ve infiltrated. When their numbers grow, so do their demands and intolerance. The Muslims are fighting two wars: one is military, and the other is political.

While many Muslims will not strap a bomb belt to themselves or to their children, the fact remains that they have done nothing to eliminate these heartless murderers from their communities.

There is no legitimate excuse for this. Their silence should tell us that something is awry in the Islamic community. American Muslims are no different from their Islamic brothers around the world. Muslim groups in America, namely the Council on American Islamic Relations, the Muslim Public Affairs Council, and others have “condemned” the bombings in London, while CAIR even urged Muslims to offer “condolences.” Excuse me, but isn’t that like asking termites to offer condolences to homeowners after they ate away the wood that was holding their house together? This is an insufficient response. These are spokesmen for the Muslim community. They should be sharply questioned about what they are doing to keep this kind of thing from happening again. Even worse is that their primary concern seems to be with "backlash" against Muslims in response to this attack, just as they were larger concerned only about “backlash” after all the other Islamic atrocities.

Muslims who have migrated to Western nations should be asked one simple question: why did you come? Why have you migrated away from your precious Islamic states? Muslim immigrants in the West should be asked for what purpose they have come to live in Western societies. Is it because where they come from is so oppressive and barbaric that they had to seek refuge in the West? If this is the case, you’d think they’d be somewhat more respectful of those who’ve granted them their safety.

Have they migrated from Islamic States to the West for a higher quality of life for themselves and their children? If this is the case, you’d think they’d be somewhat more respectful of those who’ve granted them this opportunity.

Or, have they migrated to the West for the purpose of increasing Muslim population figures, armed with mouthpieces posing as Muslim civil rights groups, all for the sake of spreading the Islamic ideology of bigotry and disrespect of all other faiths and cultures, all over the world? If this is the case, the elected leaders of Western societies need to be tapped on the shoulder and then sat down to be truly educated about this intolerant sect.

The complaints and blatant disregard for the law of the land by those of the Islamic faith is inexcusable. Muslims in America have been:

• Walking off their jobs because they can’t pray at work except for when they’re on their scheduled breaks.

• Suing employers, accusing them of religious bigotry.

• Pressuring elected officials at local levels to amend noise ordinances to allow the Muslim call to prayer over loudspeakers five times every day.

• Breaking city ordinances by hanging Ramadan banners on poles where it is prohibited, and then complaining to city government after being made to take them down. Complaining to the point that the same city government gives in and allows them to hang them back up.

• Exiting their taxi cabs to pray in areas where it is prohibited to do so, then complaining that they were ticketed for breaking the law.

Yet they wish to be respected and well thought of. They wish for Westerners to revere their so-called “holy scriptures,” the Qur’an. So long as Muslims refuse to stand up against Islamic fundamentalism, refuse to shut down Islamic groups who have questionable ties to terror networks, refuse to turn in Imams and Muslim clerics who preach hate for non-Muslims and for the West, refuse to turn in the madrasses operating in America who demand allegiance to the Qur’an and not the U.S. Constitution, and refuse to obey US Constitutional law and the laws of all free nations, the American people and our friends in Europe have no obligation to attempt to distinguish the good from the bad in the Muslim community.

The game isn’t paddy cake. The game is cultural survival, and our starting line up, our governments, appear to be shaving points.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous; War on Terror; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: america; deceipt; islam; muslims; terror; west
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1 posted on 07/12/2005 7:16:57 AM PDT by Piledriver
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To: Piledriver

bookmark


2 posted on 07/12/2005 7:20:31 AM PDT by Little Pig (Is it time for "Cowboys and Muslims" yet?)
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To: Piledriver

Great Article!


3 posted on 07/12/2005 7:24:54 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: Piledriver

Imagine in 1942 if there were "Nazi Group Headquarters" located in various cities throughout the USA. These Nazis, who openly promoted the Nazi doctrine, claimed they were "moderates" and not as zealous as their German brethren running under the authority of Adolph Hitler.

They quietly continued their business, meeting daily, spreading their faith, and on occassion, being discovered to be transferring information from the USA to Germany.

Would we silently allow them to continue?

Would our president praise their leaders as moderates?

It is a freaking crazy world.


4 posted on 07/12/2005 7:30:11 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Piledriver
The answer to the article's question is that Muslims don't care whether citizens are fooled or not. Muslims only want to fool the government because that's where the power is.

If they control the government then they can control the citizen (i.e. "infidel").

But on a positive note, this country was founded on a rebellion. So, Muslims may think they can take over the government, but unlike the French sheep, ordinary Americans will fight back.

5 posted on 07/12/2005 7:34:41 AM PDT by kromike
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To: Piledriver
Or, have they migrated to the West for the purpose of increasing Muslim population figures, armed with mouthpieces posing as Muslim civil rights groups, all for the sake of spreading the Islamic ideology of bigotry and disrespect of all other faiths and cultures, all over the world? If this is the case, the elected leaders of Western societies need to be tapped on the shoulder and then sat down to be truly educated about this intolerant sect.

Wow, says it like it is. Without naming any sect's names there is very common philosophy among them which says much of the same thing including polygamy to increase numbers.

Additionally do not forget that in many cases these folks are taking advantage of every free welfare program that the PC governments allow. Time to kick ass and take names in my opinion. If their culture is so perfect...go back and enjoy it.

6 posted on 07/12/2005 7:36:35 AM PDT by Utah Binger (Modernist American Art in the West)
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To: Piledriver

Hooo Rah!....
If they want my respect they need to clean house .... and quickly! Otherwise I say they are all suspect!


7 posted on 07/12/2005 7:36:36 AM PDT by SouthernBoyupNorth ("For my wings are made of Tungsten, my flesh of glass and steel..........")
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To: Paloma_55

Gess I have to agree with this article. Why can't we be angry any longer? We are bombed and our "leaders" tell is to go away and they will deal with it and, like every government project, they have failed.

Why can't we as human beings get angry and take care of the problem any longer? Have most of them become cowards? Is this the 21st century and what we have to look forward to?


8 posted on 07/12/2005 7:38:49 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Little Pig

Are we asking too much when we ask our leaders to lead? This is a crazy world, indeed, and our leaders are the craziest of all.


9 posted on 07/12/2005 7:41:13 AM PDT by Dark Skies (All Muslims aren't evil...just the real ones.)
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To: edcoil

Despite the fact that it was 100 degrees yesterday, I saw too many burqua wearing mamas walking about. These people are truly backward.

Yet, we are told not to worry.

Not to worry about 11 million illegals,
Not to worry about Arab immigrants with dubious motives
Not to worry about China taking over Unocal
Not to worry about anything.


10 posted on 07/12/2005 7:43:03 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: Dark Skies

According to Patton:

"A Leader Must Lead"


11 posted on 07/12/2005 7:45:23 AM PDT by chris1 ("Make the other guy die for his country" - George S. Patton Jr.)
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To: Paloma_55

Imagine in 1942 if there were "Nazi Group Headquarters" located in various cities throughout the USA. These Nazis, who openly promoted the Nazi doctrine, claimed they were "moderates" and not as zealous as their German brethren running under the authority of Adolph Hitler.

They did up through 1939. A grandfather of mine went to burn one out at the start of the war but somebody had gotten there first.

They quietly continued their business, meeting daily, spreading their faith, and on occasion, being discovered to be transferring information from the USA to Germany.

Yup, They did that through the war.

Would we silently allow them to continue?

Now that is where things changed. There are a series of “Camps” on the Colorado/Wyoming border is where they went when they got busted. Some of them were run of the mill POW camps for German troops. Others had Nazi sympathizers, still another was full of what was referred to as people that just refused to do anything. They refused the draft, refused to become “consciences objectors” refused everything. They got locked up for the duration as well. There are no doubt other camps that I don’t know about.

Would our president praise their leaders as moderates?

It is a freaking crazy world.

The president does not know the enemy at all. The enemy is an apocalyptic religion that covers many nations and is spread over a collection of cultures. If it was constrained to one nation then everyone could easily understand who the enemy is. That just isn’t the situation. Due to our collective failure to understand the enemy this could go on for quite a long time.


12 posted on 07/12/2005 7:52:49 AM PDT by grayforkbeard (If it’s not controversial, how can we learn from it?)
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To: Paloma_55
Imagine in 1942 if there were "Nazi Group Headquarters" located in various cities throughout the USA. These Nazis, who openly promoted the Nazi doctrine, claimed they were "moderates" and not as zealous as their German brethren running under the authority of Adolph Hitler.

While it was pretty much dead after December 1941, prior to that time such an organization did exist. It was called the German American Bund.

Of course the American Communist Party was around even longer, during the Stalinist purges and mass killings. It is still around, along with it's spin off groups such as ANSWR.

The two groups were mostly hostile, except during the Period of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, Aug 39 to June 41.

They quietly continued their business, meeting daily, spreading their faith, and on occassion, being discovered to be transferring information from the USA to Germany.

Would we silently allow them to continue?

Would our president praise their leaders as moderates?

The Communists did just that, well into the 1970s at least, and yes many Presidents, especially Roosevelt, did consider them moderates, or at least sometime allies.

13 posted on 07/12/2005 7:57:53 AM PDT by El Gato
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To: Piledriver

Every day, I am more convinced of Ann Coulter's solution:

"We should invade their countries, kill their leaders and convert them to Christianity. We weren't punctilious about locating and punishing only Hitler and his top officers. We carpet-bombed German cities; we killed civilians. That's war. And this is war."


14 posted on 07/12/2005 8:02:04 AM PDT by omniscient
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To: edcoil

Have you ever heard of a muslism mission or missionary? Oh, I forgot they're call cells and terrorist.


15 posted on 07/12/2005 8:11:18 AM PDT by one more state
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To: chris1

"Yet, we are told not to worry.

Not to worry about 11 million illegals,
Not to worry about Arab immigrants with dubious motives
Not to worry about China taking over Unocal
Not to worry about anything. "

Hence the beast making the what me worry comment. She may be a lot of bad things... but she's not stupid.


16 posted on 07/12/2005 8:26:31 AM PDT by brownsfan (Post No Bills)
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To: omniscient

I think we should establish a "Mutually Assured Destruction Doctrine" that says if the USA is hit by WMD, we will hit all of the major Islamic states with WMD and do it with extreme prejudice.

Unlike the Cold War where our enemy was capable of destroying our capability, these guys are not. We would not have to react simultaneously.. but we would have to act with impunity and upon conclusive evidence.


17 posted on 07/12/2005 8:30:17 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Piledriver
Yup. This guy sees it like most of the rest of us see it.

Our problem is our authorities don't want to see it. It's not that all the evidence isn't there.

Our politicians would then have to do something different that what they have already determined. It would mean they would have to take off their PC blinders and get serious about this war. That's a painful thing for a politician to do when a very large block of voters, the extremely mouthy segment which comprise our Muslims and most of the MSM side with the enemy and all that's in it for them is increased grief!

18 posted on 07/12/2005 9:00:07 AM PDT by Gritty ("There are no "civilians' in a Western sense.People are either of The House Of War or not!-Al-Siba'i)
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To: Dajjal; Convert from ECUSA; Siobhan

Ping!


19 posted on 07/12/2005 10:00:43 AM PDT by Pyro7480 ("All my own perception of beauty both in majesty and simplicity is founded upon Our Lady." - Tolkien)
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To: Pyro7480

Thanks for the ping! Right on article! For all the talk the Administration does about not tolerating terrorism, the PC stuff here and the forcing of a Munich "road map for peace" on Israel sends a very opposite message.


20 posted on 07/12/2005 11:35:05 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (tired of all the shucking and jiving)
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