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To: Piledriver

Imagine in 1942 if there were "Nazi Group Headquarters" located in various cities throughout the USA. These Nazis, who openly promoted the Nazi doctrine, claimed they were "moderates" and not as zealous as their German brethren running under the authority of Adolph Hitler.

They quietly continued their business, meeting daily, spreading their faith, and on occassion, being discovered to be transferring information from the USA to Germany.

Would we silently allow them to continue?

Would our president praise their leaders as moderates?

It is a freaking crazy world.


4 posted on 07/12/2005 7:30:11 AM PDT by Paloma_55
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To: Paloma_55

Gess I have to agree with this article. Why can't we be angry any longer? We are bombed and our "leaders" tell is to go away and they will deal with it and, like every government project, they have failed.

Why can't we as human beings get angry and take care of the problem any longer? Have most of them become cowards? Is this the 21st century and what we have to look forward to?


8 posted on 07/12/2005 7:38:49 AM PDT by edcoil (Reality doesn't say much - doesn't need too)
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To: Paloma_55

Imagine in 1942 if there were "Nazi Group Headquarters" located in various cities throughout the USA. These Nazis, who openly promoted the Nazi doctrine, claimed they were "moderates" and not as zealous as their German brethren running under the authority of Adolph Hitler.

They did up through 1939. A grandfather of mine went to burn one out at the start of the war but somebody had gotten there first.

They quietly continued their business, meeting daily, spreading their faith, and on occasion, being discovered to be transferring information from the USA to Germany.

Yup, They did that through the war.

Would we silently allow them to continue?

Now that is where things changed. There are a series of “Camps” on the Colorado/Wyoming border is where they went when they got busted. Some of them were run of the mill POW camps for German troops. Others had Nazi sympathizers, still another was full of what was referred to as people that just refused to do anything. They refused the draft, refused to become “consciences objectors” refused everything. They got locked up for the duration as well. There are no doubt other camps that I don’t know about.

Would our president praise their leaders as moderates?

It is a freaking crazy world.

The president does not know the enemy at all. The enemy is an apocalyptic religion that covers many nations and is spread over a collection of cultures. If it was constrained to one nation then everyone could easily understand who the enemy is. That just isn’t the situation. Due to our collective failure to understand the enemy this could go on for quite a long time.


12 posted on 07/12/2005 7:52:49 AM PDT by grayforkbeard (If it’s not controversial, how can we learn from it?)
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To: Paloma_55
Imagine in 1942 if there were "Nazi Group Headquarters" located in various cities throughout the USA. These Nazis, who openly promoted the Nazi doctrine, claimed they were "moderates" and not as zealous as their German brethren running under the authority of Adolph Hitler.

While it was pretty much dead after December 1941, prior to that time such an organization did exist. It was called the German American Bund.

Of course the American Communist Party was around even longer, during the Stalinist purges and mass killings. It is still around, along with it's spin off groups such as ANSWR.

The two groups were mostly hostile, except during the Period of the Molotov-Ribbentrop pact, Aug 39 to June 41.

They quietly continued their business, meeting daily, spreading their faith, and on occassion, being discovered to be transferring information from the USA to Germany.

Would we silently allow them to continue?

Would our president praise their leaders as moderates?

The Communists did just that, well into the 1970s at least, and yes many Presidents, especially Roosevelt, did consider them moderates, or at least sometime allies.

13 posted on 07/12/2005 7:57:53 AM PDT by El Gato
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