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Posted on 07/11/2005 8:12:04 PM PDT by nwctwx
So by this photo I guess it's okay for terrorists to destroy the Koran??? There's been no Muslim outrage about it that I know of.
7/7: WAR ON BRITIN: TRAINED AT BIN LADEN'S HOUSE
SUICIDE BOMBER'S STAY IN AL-QAEDA CHIEF'S COMPLEX
Exclusive By Mark Dowdney And Andy Lines In Pakistan
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/tm_objectid=15738498&method=full&siteid=94762&headline=7-7--war-on-britin--trained-at-bin-laden-s-house--name_page.html
BOMBER Shehzad Tanweer was taught terror tactics in Osama bin Laden's house, it was revealed yesterday.
Tanweer, from Leeds, spent time at Markaz-e-Dawa, a notorious religious school in north Pakistan.
Fellow bombers Mohammad Sidique Khan, 30, and Hasib Hussain, 18, are also thought to have visited religious schools in Pakistan.
Aldgate bomber Tanweer paid his visit during a three-month stay ending in February.
Pakistani authorities have quizzed his father's relatives in Faisalabad to try to trace his movements.
Bomber Hussain has also been to Pakistan in the last year. It is not known if he met Tanweer.
A file on their movements will be passed to London and is seen as important in the hunt for any other militants planning possible suicide bomb attacks in Britain.
Tanweer arrived in Pakistan last December and stayed in Lahore, a hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism.
He went to Markaz-e-Dawa, the religious school, or madrassa, co-founded by al-Qaeda leader bin Laden and built on a 190-acre site at Muridke, 30 miles from Lahore.
It contains a mosque, an iron foundry, a garment factory, a woodworking centre, three residences for recruits, and 30 schools. It is also said to house a computer centre.
It turns out religious fanatics and preaches a message of hate against the West. Bin Laden had a house there until he went on the run in the early 1990s.
Intelligence experts believe in addition to teaching the Koran, the school runs a 21-day course covering assassinations and bombs.
Major General Afsir Karim, writing in the Asian Journal on International Terrorism, said of Markaz-e-Dawa: "Thousands of people assemble there during recruitment rallies. The importance of jihad is drummed in and emotional speeches and rhetoric move people to tears and frenzied chanting."
He alleges some students get specialised instruction in sabotage.
It is reported in Pakistan that most of the world's terrorist leaders visit the school. Among those to stay was Ramzi Yousef who bombed the World Trade Center in 1993.
Guards blocked the entrance road yesterday and turned away all strangers.
Tanweer also visited Jamia Manzoorul Islamia, a madrassa in Lahore. It was also heavily-guarded yesterday. Bearded men carrying AK-47s checked every person entering the school's mosque. One said 1,200 students studied religion at the school. A nearby shopkeeper said dozens were "foreigners".
A source confirmed: "It appears Tanweer spent some time at Markaz-e-Dawa and at another militant seminary in the city."
It is speculated in Pakistan that he may have fallen into the clutches of Jaish-i-Muhammad, or Army of Muslims, radical Islamists behind dozens of suicide attacks.
It is banned in Pakistan, but sources said yesterday it operates under the cover of a madrassa.
The group also runs military training camps in Pakistan, Afghanistan and Bosnia and kidnapped British UN worker Annetta Flanigan at gunpoint in Kabul last October.
She and two other UN workers were repeatedly threatened with beheading before being released unharmed after 27 days.
Pakistan is likely to come under renewed pressure to crack down on seminaries, but such moves are sensitive as previous attempts to curb their activities have sparked huge protests by religious zealots.
Meanwhile, an acquaintance of Edgware Road bomber Khan yesterday claimed the former teacher had visited Afghanistan and Pakistan for military-style training.
The man, who refused to be identified, told the BBC he regarded Khan as a "fruitcake" who often voiced anger over the effects of Western foreign policy in Palestine, Iraq and Afghanistan.
Unaware of his death, he contacted police last weekend to tell them he believed Khan may be indoctrinating younger people.
More on the Pakistan connection:
SNIP
Connection to Al Qaeda Plot in Pakistan
Officials tell ABC News the London bombers have been connected to an al Qaeda plot planned two years ago in the Pakistani city of Lahore.
The laptop computer of Naeem Noor Khan, a captured al Qaeda leader, contained plans for a coordinated series of attacks on the London subway system, as well as on financial buildings in both New York and Washington.
"There's absolutely no doubt he was part of an al Qaeda operation aimed at not only the United States but Great Britain," explained Alexis Debat, a former official in the French Defense Ministry who is now a senior terrorism consultant for ABC News.....
http://abcnews.go.com/WNT/LondonBlasts/story?id=940198&page=1&CMP=OTC-RSSFeeds0312
~~~~(note to Mamadearest 2/11/06.... 2+11+06 = there's that # again)~~~~
That, plus Torino, Italy as the location make this one to watch.
I may be wrong, but I believe Xiong gave that speech a matter of
hours before the first plane struck the WTC on the morning of 9/11.
Curious timing in light of this new "unofficial warning" from China
(there is no free speech in general, and specifically, no merely
"personal opinions" coming from a PLA Major General at a news
briefing).
Curious timing.<<<<<<<<<
I am glad to see you posting here again.
The above reminds me of a strange idea that has taken root in my mind.
"Why are we hearing nukes around every corner?", is a question that I have asked several times in the last couple weeks.
Is it possible that the government wants us to be aware of the possibility of a nuclear strike? That they are saying that al Qaeda has a nuke, so we will wake up?
If the gov said "China, Iran, Cuba, North Korea and Russia were a team that was intending to take us out all at one time", then it would cause real trouble and that is not the way the game is played.
About 3 or 4 weeks ago, Dr. Bill Wattenberg spent his time on air, almost at a frantic pace, talking about nuclear strikes on the United States.
That was unusual for him, as a rule he answers questions with the truth. But this night he was under pressure.
I have listened since then, he has not been other than normal, very little extra talk on nukes.
It gave me a little fear, as I know he is still on the teams for the Government and working with them, even tho he is retired from teaching.
I agree with you that this Zhu would not have given an interview, unless the Chinese leaders gave him permission to do so.
The threat has been out there, Russia and China, Venezuela and Cuba keep issuing statements that say "Now we are countries enough to take on the United States.
It seems like Pakistan picked up the slack after we closed down the camps in Afghanistan
Or Russia?
Tracing back over details of four lives
http://www.heraldsun.news.com.au/common/story_page/0,5478,15935791%255E663,00.html
THE spy agency MI5 is sifting through the minute details of the four suspect bombers' lives, including every recent phone call and email.
Working backwards from July 7, investigators are tracing every call made from their homes in Leeds and plotting their movements and associations with others.
"Phone records, bank accounts, credit card usage, phone calls from work -- every piece of data connected with the four is being examined," said one security source.
Investigators were last night drawing "concentric circles" around the men's lives, to see who else could be drawn in.
It is understood the Muslim community in Beeston where the bombers congregated is coming under the microscope.
More details were emerging last night about the three suicide bombers.
Edgware Road bomber Mohammed Sadique Khan, 30, was a special-needs teacher for primary schoolchildren who flouted cultural conventions to marry the woman he fell for at university.
His wife, Hasina, British-born of Indian parents, has an eight-month-old girl and is expecting a second child.
A local community leader said it was likely Khan had met the other men away from the Dewsbury area where he lived.
Teenage bus bomber Hasib Hussain, 19, was described as a boy who grew "sour with hatred" by the time he was 14.
At 188cm, he was known as a giant at school but was overshadowed by his more gregarious older brother Imran.
Passionate about cricket and football, he had a religious conversion two years ago after visiting Pakistan. He grew a beard, swapped his Western attire for Islamic garb and only stopped to say "salaam" to fellow Muslims.
He recently shaved his beard -- a sign, say al-Qaida analysts, of a radical's intention to become a terrorist.
One neighbour branded Hussain a "dopey dork" who hid in his bedroom in recent times.
"He was not the brightest around. He started dressing up in flowing Muslim dress and started to stay in his room all the time," the neighbour said.
Aldgate bomber Shehzad Tanweer, 22, was described as a good-looking, lean young man with fashionably dyed hair who loved cricket but preferred his prayer books to chasing girls.
Known to his mates as "Khaka", he went into his shell in recent months and seemed to devote every spare moment to prayer at the local mosque.
In Pakistan, an intelligence official said Tanweer had been in the Lahore area from December to February.
He stayed at a madrassa, an Islamic religious school of the type widely seen by security agencies as breeding grounds for militancy.
Yep, while the nation's politicians get defensive and point fingers at each other and pick on minutia that won't matter one way or the other 6 months from now. Meanwhile the borders are wide open, nukes are alleged to be in place and these same politicians are agreeing to to brownie up to China and make sure Pakistan gets its billions of American dollars.
Death Toll in London Continues to Rise
http://www.wpta.com/Story.aspx?type=nn&NStoryID=692
Jul 14, 2005 - (London (AP) 7/14/05) - British police say the death toll from the terrorist attacks on London's transit system last week now stands at 54.
Wake Forest?
You're probably thinking of NCCU - North Carolina Central University. There are also a number of other colleges and universities in the area but that one would be the largest outside of Duke, NCSU, and UNC.
Wake Forest is in Winston-Salem, an hour and a half away; East Carolina (ECU) is in Greenville, a couple of hours in the other direction.
Funnymoney! It would be interesting to know the sequential numbers. I wonder if Saddam printed these with Egyptian cotton or if they came from Iran?
Possibly. Or possibly also bills that had been obtained fresh from one of the major US banks. Either one raises interesting questions.
A year ago, I saved this link, today I cannot see to read it, the print is too small.
"al Qaida's WMD sucide bomb plan"
Pakistan finds memo detailing ideas for walking bio-chem-nuke warheads.
http://goldwater.mideastreality.com/2004/sep/13_05.html
I remember the 444 thing. There was a threat letter from Osama (I believe) back in 2003 that kept repeating to 44 or 444. We were were trying to figure out the meaning of the 4.
If we stand in the way of China's takeover of Taiwan, they'll nuke us, how nice! China is militarizing in Cuba, just 90 miles away. They are lighting a firecracker and throwing it our way to see if we attempt to catch it or let it happen.
Wonder what effects we could cause China by putting a halt on all Chinese imports and immigration. American companies setting up shop in China must already know their investments are tentative at best.
Time will tell, however I'm skeptical about the symbolic anniversaries theory. Almost any date is an anniversary of something "interesting," and although some of the events have been on dates with some mild degree of "interest," none of them have been on dates that would be really obvious: for example, the battle of Tours was in October.
More importantly, August 6th is a Saturday this year. For optimal loss of life, such an attack should be planned for a weekday, preferably a Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday, when the most people would be at work in the central parts of the cities. In fact many of the attacks have in fact been in the middle of the week. My guess is that that won't be the date of the next big attack though I admit that it's not much more than a hunch.
Khalid S. M. went to the North Carolina Agricultural & Technical State University in Greensboro as an engineering major. Interesting article here:
http://www.engology.com/eng5mohammed.htm
Here ya go:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1440941/posts?page=637#637
Last August Calpernia started this thread and we added things to it as time went by. Everything that I found and thought interesting wound up here for awhile.
The link is to the last page, as that is how I open it, the beginning post is at the top, and should be read as it has the codes and sample letters from the al Zawahiri computer that was bought in Pakistan, as I recall.
LOL, a quick look at the page shows that the jihad posts are well mixed with history, and these may be of interest to you.
528-29 Missiles of Terror- China
532 Jihadi instructions on how to prepare to die.
521-522-523 a very long article on muslim gold, banking and money, my quick look shows a lot of info on the evils of American money.
506 is the Nazi subs on our east coast in WW2
"From the Files of Terror"
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1192738/posts?page=511#comment
Bio-Chemist wanted in London attacks
Russia to have mandatory military training in its schools
Explosives disappear after Russian barge sinks
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