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'Israel Will Eventually Disappear'
Ynet News ^ | 7/11/05 | Dian Bahur-Nir and Ali Waked

Posted on 07/11/2005 1:55:51 PM PDT by Reborn

'Israel will eventually disappear'

Senior Hamas leader tells Italian newspaper pullout plan a temporary solution; says Palestine will become a Muslim state
By Dian Bahur-Nir and Ali Waked

Mahmoud al-Zahar

Hamas will not compromise on one inch of Greater Palestine, Hamas leader Mahmoud al-Zahar told an Italian newspaper earlier this week.

Speaking to the Corriere Della Sera newspaper, al-Zahar said Hamas would "definitely not" be prepared for coexistence with Israel should the IDF retreat to its 1967 borders.

"It can be a temporary solution, for a maximum of 5 to 10 years. But in the end Palestine must return to become Muslim, and in the long term Israel will disappear from the face of the earth."

Go to hell

Asked about Hamas's intentions to carry out terror attacks in coordination with the disengagement plan, al-Zahar said Hamas has already promised not to initiate violence, and that the group's actions would be in response to Israeli actions.

"We won't disrupt the Israeli withdrawal, let them get out of here and go to hell," he said. "The problem will be afterwards, because in the hearts of every Palestinian, the liberation of Gaza must be accompanied by the liberation of Jerusalem and the West Bank."

London attack

Al-Zahar said the London bombings, whiched occured during the interview, are to be expected in countries that support the United States.

"It's no wonder today they have found terror attacks in their home," he said. "I am opposed to attacks against civilians, whoever they are, but why not tell it like it is - if the British soldiers were not in Baghdad and Bazra – there would be mercy for London today."

However, a-Zahar stopped short of supporting the attack on the London Underground, but tried to "explain" the acts of suicide bombers..

"There is a broad popular people's movement against American arrogant hegemony. World leaders, headed by the Bush and Blair governments, should have been more attentive to the voice of poorer countries."

Foreign Ministry protests

In Israel, Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom provided a translation of part of the interview and parts of the Hamas consitution Foreign Minister Silvan Shalom for European Union envoy Javier Solana, in an attempt to explain Israel's rejection fo negotioations with Hamas.

The Ministry has also embarked on a campaign to discourage Europeans from dealing with Hamas, including an English translation of Hamas's convention, to be distributed to diplomats in a bid to illustrate the movement's radical and dangerous character to the attention of decision makers throughout the world.

"Now, when Europe has offered to recognize Hamas on a political level, al-Zahar provides clear statements of what to expect from the organization," Ministry officials told Ynet. "He does not even attempt to speak ambiguously in an attempt to please Europe and finds it difficult to hide the group's happiness at the London bombings."


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: alzahar; hamas; israel; jihad; liars; palestine; sandnazis; sandnazism; wishfulthinking
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To: Andy from Chapel Hill
They will not invade civilized societies with traditional wars. They will invade us with population explosion. They just keep on multiplying until they gain a critical majority. Then demand special legal rights because their religion dictates they have to follow certain such rules. Then they will change our laws. Eventually, they will turn us into Dhimmis.

All this while, our governments will be trying paying them "jizya". Like we are doing right now by tripling the aid to 9 billion US dollars to the palestinians.
61 posted on 07/11/2005 4:05:03 PM PDT by velocityguy
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To: Mr. Keys
I guess the Islamoscum have a different "roadmap ", huh ?

I'd bet it doesn't look like this:

BEFORE AFTER

62 posted on 07/11/2005 4:12:32 PM PDT by numberonepal (Don't Even Think About Treading On Me)
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To: snarks_when_bored
And then the Israelis will kick the living crap out of them.

Which is what they have done every time they have been attacked by Muslims during their entire history.

63 posted on 07/11/2005 4:19:36 PM PDT by SALChamps03
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To: CyberAnt

There's nothing like perspective. Thanks for posting that pic.


64 posted on 07/11/2005 4:19:49 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: Reborn

[Mahmoud al-Zahar is speaking openly to those who have ears to hear.]


I fear Sharon does not have ears to ear. Politicians today appear to be fools who do not KNOW HISTORY.


65 posted on 07/11/2005 4:24:45 PM PDT by ohhhh ( Kiss the son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way,when his wrath is kindled...)
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To: DarthVader

[Always ready to educate liberals by beating them profusely about the head with a Louisville.]

It's too late for liberals, they are stupid and blind and refuse to see the truth.


66 posted on 07/11/2005 4:26:52 PM PDT by ohhhh ( Kiss the son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way,when his wrath is kindled...)
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To: Reborn

Is that spot on his forehead a bullseye?


67 posted on 07/11/2005 4:31:47 PM PDT by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: SALChamps03
>> And then the Israelis will kick the living crap out of them.
Which is what they have done every time they have been attacked by Muslims during their entire history.

I've always thought Israel was far too restrained in response to attacks. Seems they are held to a different standard, and are expected to turn the other cheek, compromise, negotiate, and show undeserved mercy toward their would-be destroyers. When it comes to Israel, it's like acting in self-preservation is acting in bad faith.

68 posted on 07/11/2005 4:32:26 PM PDT by Graymatter
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To: rang1995

It deserves to be held with gloves - a nice pair of pigskin driving gloves would be about right.


69 posted on 07/11/2005 4:34:10 PM PDT by Let's Roll ( "Congressmen who ... undermine the military ... should be arrested, exiled or hanged" - A. Lincoln)
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To: sofaman

Typical doubletalk. Because according to Islam, there are no innocents, just Muslims and infidels. Therefore, anyone is fair game.


70 posted on 07/11/2005 4:34:12 PM PDT by agrace (Where were you when I founded the earth? Tell me if you know so much. Job 38:4)
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To: NoClones

Psalms 83

1. Keep not thou silence, O God: hold not thy peace, and be not still, O God.
2. For, lo, thine enemies make a tumult: and they that hate thee have lifted up the head.
3. They have taken crafty counsel against thy people, and consulted against thy hidden ones.
4. They have said, Come, and let us cut them off from being a nation; that the name of Israel may be no more in remembrance.
5. For they have consulted together with one consent: they are confederate against thee:
6. The tabernacles of Edom, and the Ishmaelites; of Moab, and the Hagarenes;
7. Gebal, and Ammon, and Amalek; the Philistines with the inhabitants of Tyre;
8. Assur also is joined with them: they have holpen the children of lot. Selah.
9. Do unto them as unto the Midianites; as to Sisera, as to Jabin, at the brook of Kison:
10. Which perished at Endor: they became as dung for the earth.
11. Make their nobles like Oreb, and like Zeeb: yea, all their princes as Zebah, and as Zalmunna:
12. Who said, Let us take to ourselves the houses of God in possession.
13. O my God, make them like a wheel; as the stubble before the wind.
14. As the fire burneth a wood, and as the flame setteth the mountains on fire;
15. So persecute them with thy tempest, and make them afraid with thy storm.
16. Fill their faces with shame; that they may seek thy name, O Lord.
17. Let them be confounded and troubled for ever; yea, let them be put to shame, and perish:
18. That men may know that thou, whose name alone is Jehovah, art the most high over all the earth.


71 posted on 07/11/2005 4:34:18 PM PDT by ohhhh ( Kiss the son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way,when his wrath is kindled...)
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To: Alouette
Mark Twain, 1898

My favorite cigar aficianado (as I puff on my Punch Rare Corojo). And a very smart and funny man.

72 posted on 07/11/2005 4:37:12 PM PDT by andy58-in-nh
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To: Reborn

[...Palestine must return to become Muslim, and in the long term Israel will disappear from the face of the earth."saith the Islamic terrorist.]

Thus saith the Lord God who created the heavens and the earth and man upon the earth;

30. But every one shall die for his own iniquity: every man that eateth the sour grape, his teeth shall be set on edge.
31. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
32. Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the Lord:
33. But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the Lord, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
34. And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the Lord: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
35. Thus saith the Lord, which giveth the sun for a light by day, and the ordinances of the moon and of the stars for a light by night, which divideth the sea when the waves thereof roar; The Lord of hosts is his name:
36. If those ordinances depart from before me, saith the Lord, then the seed of Israel also shall cease from being a nation before me for ever.
37. Thus saith the Lord; If heaven above can be measured, and the foundations of the earth searched out beneath, I will also cast off all the seed of Israel for all that they have done, saith the Lord.
38. Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, that the city shall be built to the Lord from the tower of Hananeel unto the gate of the corner.
39. And the measuring line shall yet go forth over against it upon the hill Gareb, and shall compass about to Goath.
40. And the whole valley of the dead bodies, and of the ashes, and all the fields unto the brook of Kidron, unto the corner of the horse gate toward the east, shall be holy unto the Lord; it shall not be plucked up, nor thrown down any more for ever.


73 posted on 07/11/2005 4:39:42 PM PDT by ohhhh ( Kiss the son, lest he be angry, and ye perish from the way,when his wrath is kindled...)
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To: numberonepal

Nope, their roadmap leads to a deadend(ing).


74 posted on 07/11/2005 4:56:02 PM PDT by Mr. Keys
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To: Reborn

Glass parking lot time.


75 posted on 07/11/2005 5:00:52 PM PDT by hershey
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To: theFIRMbss

Sadly, we're going through the motions of establishing a Palestinian state, and then we'll prop it up for a very expensive while, and then when we're bombed or Israel is bombed, we'll get serious. The Palestinians are incapable of running anything, let alone a modern state. They're incompetent (plus a long, long list of uncomplimentary adjectives/adverbs starting with dumb and dumber...), and have wallowed too long in the self-indulgent land of victimhood...which has paid off handsomely. Positive reinforcement...set off bombs and you receive a bigger bribe in exchange for a promise to be good. So you set off more bombs and kill more innocents and demand an even bigger slice of the pie. Does anyone in the admin. have any common sense?


76 posted on 07/11/2005 5:10:05 PM PDT by hershey
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To: colorado tanker

The Europeans let too many Muslims in and didn't think about the longterm consequences. Now they're terrified of 'upsetting' 18 million of them living next door. So we hear the euphemism...'extremists'. Nobody dares whisper the words, "Muslim terrorists, Muslim murderers killing innocents in the name of their crazy, cult religion." Over the weekend, British govt. spokesmen/cops muttered vaguely about 'foreign extremists' (from somewhere else, North Africa, Morocco, even the Balkans) God forbid we offend Muslims calling for death and destruction every week at the local mosque, or those who clapped with glee when America was attacked and then Spain. They'd love to call them far right wing extremists, but that's impossible. Too bad they're all Muslims hellbent on killing as many Brits as possible. So we'll see 'willfully ignorant' played out in public until the day dawns when they can't avoid the truth. (I heard one British reporter on tv the day of the bombings, actually say that George Bush had been right all along. So there's hope.)


77 posted on 07/11/2005 5:22:25 PM PDT by hershey
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To: Alouette

Very nice! Thank you!


78 posted on 07/11/2005 5:23:16 PM PDT by hershey
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To: velocityguy

You're right, they'll invade with population explosion...but they'd have trouble here in the US what with the Hispanic invasion and population explosion. I'd bet the farm on Hispanics taking over. They have more babies, too. (And on the main, they're Catholics.) But Canada's already caving to Muslims' demands for the law of Sharia, etc..


79 posted on 07/11/2005 5:29:27 PM PDT by hershey
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To: chris1
Yet our soldiers wear gloves while holding the Koran. What a joke.

Let's send them some pig skin gloves.

80 posted on 07/11/2005 5:33:30 PM PDT by jimfree (Speak a lie long enough, people believe it; let others speak a lie long enough, you'll believe it.)
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