[Lorianne]

Good to review

[SittinYonder]

ping

[My2Cents]

You know, at least seven of the above ten principles speak to why libertarians are not conservatives.

[drama queen]

I've heard of the late Russell Kirk being one of the fathers of the conservative movement but you don't hear his name bandied about much anymore. I agree with him that conservatives are (or should be) more in tune with "permament things" rather than chaos but that is exactly what we have these days. I prefer the term "moral agnosticism" to describe this state of affairs. I define this as a marked inability and also a lack of desire to come to ultimate moral conclusions about things, abortion being the most obvious example. There are also the "philosophical constructs" constantly being used by the Left, such as the fetus may be human but isn't a person or that the late Terri Schiavo was not even human but merely a vegetable who could be dehydrated to death. Philosophical constructs one and all, as they have no basis in biological reality whatsover.

[bayourod]

I'll tell you what a conservative is. A conservative is someone who:

1. Opposes admission of Red China to the U.N.
2. Opposes giving away the Panama Canal
3. Opposes forced busing
4. Opposes fluoridation of drinking water
5. Supports the death penalty
6. Opposes unilateral disarmament, and
7. Supports a return to the gold standard.

[biblewonk]

Goth teens spend an awful lot of time sitting around defining themselves too.

[Alexander Rubin]

Excellent and well reasoned points. I find myself in agreement with almost all of them.

[goonie4life9]

bttt

[atomic_dog]

Of course he ignored compeletely the most bogus conservative principle.

Prohibition Works!

[mnehring]

ping for later

[Barry Goldwater]

I would suggest reading this fine speech:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/daily/may98/goldwaterspeech.htm

[SW6906]

Check this out. Perhaps worthy of a WA state ping?

[KC Burke]

Some years ago I posted a Calvin Biesner review of the Politics of Prudence, one chapter of which was a restatment of his life long theme of gathering these in a well stated form. You can see that old thread HERE to read comments at that time.

Kirk has been talked about here many times over the years. His denouncment of Ideology was the first article I posted many years ago.

Kirk was the champion of tradional small "c" conservatism and while not making his name battling libertarianism, he was opposed to ideological libertaians like the Objectivists.

If we had to name two people that gave a rebirth and a firm defination to conservatism in the early 50s for Goldwater, Buckley and Reagan to spring from, it would be Russell Kirk and Richard Weaver.

[muir_redwoods]

#4 Says that Prudence is the greatest virtue. I don't think a single virtue stands on it's own but I would rank honesty higher than prudence.

[IronJack]

I knew the second I saw the title to this thread that it had to come from Russell Kirk. He is the Moses of Conservatism. The Conservative Mind comprises the catechism of our cause, and his other works are ancillary gospels.