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Still Crazy After 20 Years [Did Bono, Madonna's aid to victims also aid their executioners]
PittsburghLive.com ^ | Monday, July 11, 2005 | Ralph R. Reiland

Posted on 07/11/2005 5:55:16 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay

The first time Bono and Madonna got together to save Africa, the unintended consequence was the death of perhaps as many as 100,000 people. That's aid expert David Rieff's conclusion in the July 2005 issue of the resolutely liberal American Prospect magazine regarding the end result of Live Aid in 1985.

Billed as "The Greatest Show on Earth," Live Aid was a multivenue rock concert held on July 13, l985, in London and Philadelphia in order to raise money for famine relief in Ethiopia. With an estimated 1.5 billion viewers watching the live broadcast in 100 countries, the event reportedly raised $250 million.

The money was supposed to go toward relieving hunger. In reality, argues Rieff, the rock stars and well-intentioned donors became unwilling participants in a civil war and unwitting supporters of a Soviet-style resettlement project that vastly increased the severity of the famine.

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"The generosity we are asking for can save millions of lives," Microsoft Chairman and billionaire philanthropist Bill Gates, an unlikely figure among the dozens of rock stars, told the teeming mass in Hyde Park. "Some day in the future all people, no matter where they are born, will be able to lead a healthy life. We can do this, and when we do it will be the best thing that humanity has ever done."
1 posted on 07/11/2005 5:55:18 AM PDT by fight_truth_decay
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To: fight_truth_decay

Why can't these idiots see the truth? To pour money into Africa while it is still under the rule of oppressive dictators will only arm militaries, not feed innocents.


2 posted on 07/11/2005 5:57:35 AM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: DefiantZERO
Why can't these idiots see the truth?

Its in their DNA!

3 posted on 07/11/2005 6:02:35 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: DefiantZERO

Why can't these idiots see the truth?"

Because they ARE idiots.


4 posted on 07/11/2005 6:06:03 AM PDT by philetus (What goes around comes around)
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To: DefiantZERO
Why can't these idiots see the truth?

Because these idiots are basically very narcissistic. They think the only thing the only thing that matters is the deed borne out of their good intentions. If they feel good about themselves after doing something like Live Aid, they feel like it's mission accomplished, even if it's terribly wrong. All that matters is how it makes them feel.

5 posted on 07/11/2005 6:07:12 AM PDT by Uncle Vlad
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To: ncountylee

Can't argue with that..

"Make poverty history" might as well say "Make arms shortages history" the way these wankers are running around encouraging other small-minded twits to write cheques to Mugabe and others.


6 posted on 07/11/2005 6:07:34 AM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: fight_truth_decay

All people will be able to lead healthy lives? Gates needs a reality check.


7 posted on 07/11/2005 6:09:51 AM PDT by sarasota
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To: Uncle Vlad
All that matters is how it makes them feel.

Exactly right! It's me. If I feel good, a wonderful thing has happened.

8 posted on 07/11/2005 6:10:41 AM PDT by ncountylee (Dead terrorists smell like victory)
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To: DefiantZERO

"Some day in the future all people, no matter where they are born, will be able to lead a healthy life

Or maybe a few will have a healthy Swiss bank account


9 posted on 07/11/2005 6:11:15 AM PDT by MudSlide
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To: MudSlide

Nail. Head. Hammer.

Like I said, all that will come from this are a few shiny new weapons in the hands of dictatorial Death Squads.


10 posted on 07/11/2005 6:12:28 AM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: philetus
The Africans were seriously FAR better off when they lived in the jungle.

I have never understood why they sit around in camps dying of starvation and disease waiting for the next handout of food and clothing from the US rather than just return to the jungle and live happy and content with their families.

The same is true for the poor in America. They sit around in the most dangerous ghettos in the US and wait for the next handout while their children are murdered in the streets and at the local school. No one is making them live in these areas, America is a HUGE country, they could live ANYWHERE, segregation is long gone, no one is forcing them to live in those crime ridden wards, with jokes for schools. They could move their families to some nice apartment in the suburbs and pay next to nothing for rent, and could send their kids to the same schools are the millionaires who own homes all around them send their kids.
11 posted on 07/11/2005 6:14:07 AM PDT by republican2005
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Why can't these idiots see the truth? To pour money into Africa while it is still under the rule of oppressive dictators will only arm militaries, not feed innocents.

But...but...Bono said that only countries that "exhibit movements towards democracy" will get the money.

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

The best we can do is shame these people into ending their African Despot/Rich Rock Star Enrichment programs. How many of these Beautiful People do you think "donated" their time? Zero. Their performance fees and expenses are written off, which means you and I get to pay for their Day of Mutual Admiration.

12 posted on 07/11/2005 6:14:15 AM PDT by randog (What the....?!)
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To: Uncle Vlad

I think you're on to something.


13 posted on 07/11/2005 6:14:52 AM PDT by Eric in the Ozarks (Scratch a Liberal. Uncover a Fascist)
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To: randog

For liberals, a "movement towards democracy" means shooting the breeze with a few treasonous Democratic congressmen for a couple of hours, and posing for pictures.


14 posted on 07/11/2005 6:16:29 AM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: Uncle Vlad

Bump.


15 posted on 07/11/2005 6:17:24 AM PDT by GVnana
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To: republican2005

" The same is true for the poor in America. They sit around in the most dangerous ghettos in the US and wait for the next handout while their children are murdered in the streets and at the local school. No one is making them live in these areas, America is a HUGE country, they could live ANYWHERE, segregation is long gone, no one is forcing them to live in those crime ridden wards, with jokes for schools. They could move their families to some nice apartment in the suburbs and pay next to nothing for rent, and could send their kids to the same schools are the millionaires who own homes all around them send their kids."

Same in Britain, but why would Government advertize an idea like this when the poor are kept perfectly under control as they are?


16 posted on 07/11/2005 6:19:33 AM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: fight_truth_decay
But to give them credit, I think that Bono and Geldof have been receiving a crash course in reality. It seem that President Bush has actually been talking to them and explaining what needs to be done and how it needs to be done.

From their reaction lately, I think they are starting to understand it.

17 posted on 07/11/2005 6:24:29 AM PDT by McGavin999
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Their recent comments are slightly more grounded in the real world, but they still have a long way to go.


18 posted on 07/11/2005 6:25:41 AM PDT by DefiantZERO
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To: fight_truth_decay

Reformers are really playing God. It never works. It doesn't occur to them that they aren't quite as bright as God and they are going to screw things up. It also doesn't occur to them that a future generation of reformers will come along and reform the mess they are making of things now -- and screw things up even more the next time around.


19 posted on 07/11/2005 6:30:18 AM PDT by T'wit (If God lets any liberals into Heaven, they'll tell Him what's wrong with it and try to reform it.)
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Why can't these idiots see the truth? To pour money into Africa while it is still under the rule of oppressive dictators will only arm militaries, not feed innocents. FOLLOW THE MONEY AGAIN... (06/23) G8 'Still Selling Weapons to Worst Regimes' http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1664749,00.html
20 posted on 07/11/2005 6:35:13 AM PDT by thinking4me (sound money first)
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