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From Russia With Gas; 2,100 Stations in U.S. Set to Carry a New Name
Red Nova ^ | 10 July 2005

Posted on 07/10/2005 11:45:47 PM PDT by jb6

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To: varon

The choice is: Russia, Chinese (maybe), Venezualan and Saudi gas: who's the worst for America?


41 posted on 07/11/2005 8:17:53 AM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: panaxanax
Why, just think how close we all could become by sharing the toilet paper and splitting our dinner (a potato) with the one you love. You forgot to add that they all drive new SUV's and live in million dollar estates!

Are you still living in the early Eighties? No one has a problem purchasing good food in Russian supermarkets. Indeed, I have found that outside of beef they eat better than the junk food we consume. They have superstores in Moscow and some other cities which have more checkout stands than any target I have seen. The last I heard Sam's and Wal-Mart is moving into Russia.

"History proves that all dictatorships, all authoritarian forms of government are transient. Only democratic systems are not transient. Whatever the shortcomings, mankind has not devised anything superior." Vladimir Putin

"Whoever does not miss the Soviet Union has no heart. Whoever wants it back has no brain." Vladimir Putin
42 posted on 07/11/2005 8:28:20 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: varon

I think you're right. I was up doing office work most of the night, 2 hours of sleep just doesn't help much. The coffee didn't help, I'm still in a daze.

Who knows, maybe the new Chinese Chevy's will run better on Chinese gas?


43 posted on 07/11/2005 8:29:41 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: jb6; panaxanax
ping, according to panaxanax, your wife wash sharing her one roll of toilet paper with her whole family while fighting over the lone potatoe. The enlightened one knows soooo much about world economic conditions.

My wife is the best cook I have ever seen, and everybody who has tasted her food agrees. I wonder how someone could be such a good cook if potatoes is all they have to work with.

I also wonder how they are going to feel flying in the Boeing 787 and 747 Advanced, when they learn the planes were designed in Boeings Moscow design center.
44 posted on 07/11/2005 8:45:54 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: jb6

".....Ford and Chrystel (?) SUVs are popular there...."

And what percentage of the average Russian citizen can actually own one?

"....have actually cut the size of government..."

Could that be because they can't afford to maintain an accountable military? Didn't we give them 60B a few years ago pay their troops so that the higher-ups wouldn't sell off nuclear devices etc to feed their families?

There is no way that they have improved their economy as much as you claim. Sure, there may be a few Americans that have landed good jobs as execs over there, but I seriously doubt that is the norm. If they're so affluent now, how come they still haven't paid us back for all the wheat we "sold" (gave) them?

Crime is rampant, AIDS is raging, a very high percentage of their prisoners are dying from TB, those than afford good medical treatment come to the U.S. to have the surgeries and the list is long for those wishing to get out and move to America. Have you ever visited West Sacramento? It's practically all Russian immigrants! Believe me, I know many from there and they are ever-so-greatful to be in this country.

I hope you're not going to be working for one of the companies that are supplying Syria, Iran and China etc. with weapons technology, nuclear subs and such? Money isn't everything.

I REALLY do hope this job works out for you, comrade.


45 posted on 07/11/2005 8:57:54 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: jb6

"The enlightened one...." Thank you.

You say potatoe and I say potato. Obviously, we don't agree on a lot of things.


46 posted on 07/11/2005 9:02:06 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: GarySpFc

"I wonder how someone could be such a good cook if potatoes is all they have to work with."

There 17,000 ways to prepare potatoes and make them taste good and I'm sure your wife is a great cook.

"I also wonder how they are going to feel flying in the Boeing 787 and 747 Advanced, when they learn the planes were designed in Boeings Moscow design center."

Probably pretty safe, considering that Boeing is an American owned company (for now) and the planes had to be designed to our high standards.

I'm sorry if I offended you and Jb6, but I just can't bring myself to kiss any Russian butt. Maybe yor thoughts about them will change when they join China in a war against the U.S.


47 posted on 07/11/2005 9:18:03 AM PDT by panaxanax
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To: panaxanax
I'm sorry if I offended you and Jb6, but I just can't bring myself to kiss any Russian butt. Maybe yor thoughts about them will change when they join China in a war against the U.S.

It isn't a matter of kissing Russian butt, but realizing these are wonderful people and very much like Americans. You need to grow up, and stop living in the Eighties.
48 posted on 07/11/2005 9:35:27 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: panaxanax
There 17,000 ways to prepare potatoes and make them taste good and I'm sure your wife is a great cook.

Yes, she is a great cook, and she seldom fixes potatoes.
49 posted on 07/11/2005 9:36:48 AM PDT by GarySpFc (Sneakypete, De Oppresso Liber)
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To: Temple Owl

ping


50 posted on 07/11/2005 9:38:04 AM PDT by Tribune7
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To: DTogo

"Shall we sell our utility companies to the Saudis next?"

Sure, all you have to do is make the appropriate cash donation to either one of the dominant political parties or to the Washington lobbyist of your choice.


51 posted on 07/11/2005 9:52:04 AM PDT by dljordan
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To: panaxanax
Most families own cars, true, not that many SUVs but hay. Ford Focus sells for $8k with a 3 year financing plan. Renault, Ford, Chevy, Chevy Jeep, BMW, Mercadies all have factories there now and Honda, Toyota, and Nissan are opening up factories this year. Production is up about 300% over last year to around 150,000 cars internally and another 100,000 imported (with 25% tariff). On top of this, the old soviet car plants (now privatized but still making crappy cars) are pushing out about 1 million cars combined.

There is no way that they have improved their economy as much as you claim

Really? Funny, the CIA World Fact book rather disagrees with you. By Purchasing Power Parity, they now have the 6th largest economy, surpassing the Italians this year. At the rate of growth, they'll pass the French next year and the British the year after. True, Germany will take another 5-8 years but the Germans are a dear and are shrinking their economy to make it easier.

AIDS is not that rampent, compared to the Soviet times, sure, but the soviets said it didn't exist. Crime? There is, but again, way over blown. Been there plenty of times, never bothered. My wife is from there and has never been mugged/robbed (can't say that for NC where my neighbor's house was broken into, my car robbed, etc in a middle class neighborhood...oh and it only took the cops 1 hour to respond from their substation 3 miles away).

I hope you're not going to be working for one of the companies that are supplying Syria, Iran and China etc. with weapons technology, nuclear subs and such?

No I'm not, I'm aiming at one of those companies that keeps your SUV running.

Oh and I'm not your comrade or anyones, thank you very much. If you want to use a word use: gospodin.

52 posted on 07/11/2005 10:10:06 AM PDT by jb6 ( Free Haghai Sophia! Crusade!)
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To: jb6

In fact, Lukoil isn't the first Russian company to purchase an American one, operation in the US market. Severstal' ("Northen Steel") bought an American steel company a year or two ago.
No wonder. They have enough money and expect to make more in American market - a wider and a more secure one.


53 posted on 07/13/2005 2:24:46 PM PDT by Freelance Warrior
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