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Kristol warns: Bush wants Gonzales for Chief Justice
Fox News Sunday | July 10, 2005 | colonel mosby

Posted on 07/10/2005 7:19:51 AM PDT by colonel mosby

William Kristol, who correctly predicted that O'Connor would retire before Rehnquist, now has a dire prediction. Kristol claims that Rehnquist will retire this week, and that Bush operatives are already clearing the way to nominate Alberto Gonzales for new Chief Justice. Kristol made the comments on Fox News Sunday, as part of the four member discussion panel.

According to this train of thought, according to Kristol, the White House believes that it can avoid Congressional conflict by appointing a moderate like Gonzales, and then balance it by naming a true conservative to replace O'Connor. This would effectively leave the current "balance of the court" intact.

Panelists Juan Williams and CeCe Connolly applauded this notion, and felt it was a worthy compromise. However, panelist Charles Krauthammer warned that appointing Gonzales to the court would be a huge mistake because, by doing so, Bush would "betray his base" and "betray his promises".

William Kristol said that a Gonzales appointment, or any moderate appointment, would be "incredibly demoralizing" and "disastrous" for George W. Bush, because it would completely alienate his conservative base, and cause a terrible fracture in the Republican Party.

There is more than one hurricane on the horizon.


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KEYWORDS: chiefjustice; gonzales; kristol; scotus
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To: nwrep
Ginsburg was viewed as a moderate

What are smokin'? Ginsberg was an ACLU lawyer. She was a radical leftists and everyone that followed her confirmation knew it.

Unlike the Democrats, the Republicans rolled over and let two leftist be appointed without a fight>

Well, the Republicans are in charge now and it's time they did what they promised to do and were elected to -- appoint originalist, Scalia-like judges. Do it or suffer the consquences any politician would have nightmares about.

201 posted on 07/10/2005 9:17:40 PM PDT by Ol' Sparky
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To: Ron in Acreage

So you think Bush is pro life, ey? Bush is pro his own power and whatever keeps him in the game. I no longer believe he has any honestly held deep founded principles. Such things don't seem to be inculcated in the Bush clan.


202 posted on 07/10/2005 9:22:43 PM PDT by mercy (never again a patsy for Bill Gates - spyware and viri free for over a year now)
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To: colonel mosby
ARTICLE..."Kristol claims that Rehnquist will retire this week, and that Bush operatives are already clearing the way to nominate Alberto Gonzales for new Chief Justice."

This is so crazy I cant believe it!

I criticize Bush's policies on this forum from time to time...but I cant believe he would commit political suicide...not only for his administration, but for the entire Republican party as well.

Bad enough to nominate Gonzales to replace O'Connor, but to even consider putting your buddy on as CJ is ludicrous.

It would be a direct slap in the face to Scalia...who IMO deserves the CJ.

It would be a direct slap in the face to ALL conservatives...including the 'extremist' ones Bush referred to in his so called defense of Gonzales.

I'm gonna put Gonzales' politics aside here....its immaterial in a sense as far as his suitability to be nominated to SCOTUS....especially CJ.

He is flat out NOT the best candidate we have. You put your best people forward...the best and the brightest...not just your buddies. The founding fathers did not approve of cronyism.

If Bush is dead set on nominating an Hispanic...he has a perfect candidate in Estrada...who is IMO head and shoulders above Gonzales...not just his background (which would be an inspiration to hardworking Hispanics who are playing by the rules) ..he is just plain smarter....and a solid conservative too.

If he wants somebody who served him honorably and loyally, and also well known to him...let him nominate John Ashcroft...a decent man, a great background, and a true conservative.

If this is some sort of White House calculated trial balloon..it sucks...period.
203 posted on 07/10/2005 9:45:51 PM PDT by Dat Mon (will work for clever tagline)
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To: Always Right
Souter was a known liberal by people who knew him. Unfortunately the people who really knew him were RINO's and lied to Bush about who Souter was.

So GHWB didn't know Souter from Adam. GWB does know Gonzalez intimately, so therein lies the difference.

204 posted on 07/10/2005 9:50:19 PM PDT by gop_gene
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To: colonel mosby

If Rehnquist is to retire (which is likely), the person who replaces him will not automatically be chief justice, correct?

Putting aside the chief justice part, I think Bush would *like* Gonzales on the Supreme Court, but he'd be crazy to pursue that, period.


205 posted on 07/10/2005 9:54:10 PM PDT by k2blader (Was it wrong to kill Terri Shiavo? YES - 83.8%. FR Opinion Poll.)
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To: ContraryMary
Very nice analysis of Gonzales. But what did you mean by saying the problem is his integrity -- that he's too conservative to legislate from the bench? Isn't that what we want?

It was sarcasm. That is exactly what we want, but some people seem too blinded by their political agendas to realize that.

206 posted on 07/10/2005 10:30:04 PM PDT by coconutt2000 (NO MORE PEACE FOR OIL!!! DOWN WITH TYRANTS, TERRORISTS, AND TIMIDCRATS!!!! (3-T's For World Peace))
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To: Truthsayer20
Isn't it funny that the leftist side just never happens to nominate judges who turn up being conservative despite a leftist reputation? Republican presidents have nominated folks like Stevens, O'Connor and Souter who have ended up going more and more to the left after their nomination. Clinton's two judges almost always vote on the party line.

No, and I'm no longer taking it as happenstance. Not at the national level, where folks are presumed to play hardball. The implication (IMHO) is that a significant portion of the Republican national leadership is not what it portrays itself to be.

207 posted on 07/10/2005 11:18:19 PM PDT by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: G.Mason

"Without a Repubican majority there is no Evangelical Christians."

HUH??!?!? That's absurd, why that would require the presumed Democrat majority to outlaw Christian evangelism ...

and we know there is no danger of -- hey, wait a second.



208 posted on 07/11/2005 4:06:12 AM PDT by WOSG (Liberating Iraq - http://freedomstruth.blogspot.com)
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To: WOSG; nwrep
Seems they [dims] are doing a fairly good job of defaming all religion, with the exception of allahism, right now and they are the minority party, or so we are led to believe.


Good of you to notice my point. I can only speculate on why nwrep would not reply. ;)

209 posted on 07/11/2005 4:43:23 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: gop_gene
So GHWB didn't know Souter from Adam. GWB does know Gonzalez intimately, so therein lies the difference.

Gonzalez is without a question better than Souter. But Gonzalez is not a strict constructionist like a Thomas or a Scalia. Gonzalez is probably lies somewhere to the left of Rheinquest and the the right of O'Conner. IMO, we need to do better.

210 posted on 07/11/2005 5:27:37 AM PDT by Always Right
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To: Ol' Sparky
Well, the Republicans are in charge now and it's time they did what they promised to do and were elected to --

Stop trying to lay this off on "Republicans".

It's the idiot in the White House that threatens this mind boggling domestic debacle. He personally promised Scalia/Thomas like appointees.

The truth is not in the man.

What are Republicans to do, filibuster their own President?

211 posted on 07/11/2005 5:42:38 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan..)
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To: Ol' Sparky
What are smokin'? Ginsberg was an ACLU lawyer. She was a radical leftists and everyone that followed her confirmation knew it.

I would like to know wha Orrin Hatch was smoking. It was the Senate Republicans who bought the line that she was a moderate. Read the articles of the time. Hatch thought he was supporting a moderate.

212 posted on 07/11/2005 5:46:34 AM PDT by nwrep
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To: coconutt2000
He is a strict interpretationist, which is why he has ruled against pro-life in the past.

Yeah, that's why every Dim I've seen comment on his prospective nomination is practically slobbering with approval.

Bush/Gonzales has everyone in both parties fooled except you! Yeah, sure!

Sheesh!

213 posted on 07/11/2005 5:49:23 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan..)
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To: colonel mosby

.....I nominate Mark Levin for the Supreme Court...no one knows more about the Constitution than that man.


214 posted on 07/11/2005 5:52:36 AM PDT by smiley
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To: SteveH
The implication (IMHO) is that a significant portion of the Republican national leadership is not what it portrays itself to be.

There's only ONE party ... with a first string and a second string!

And, that party has pretty effectively shut off the emergence of a real opposition party!

215 posted on 07/11/2005 5:52:43 AM PDT by iconoclast (Conservative, not partisan..)
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To: colonel mosby

.....I nominate Mark Levin for the Supreme Court...no one knows more about the Constitution than that man.


216 posted on 07/11/2005 5:58:15 AM PDT by smiley
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To: Jabba the Nutt
Didn't Gonzalez say he wasn't a candidate?

Doesn't mean much. Cheney wasn't a candidate for VP until W picked him, either.

217 posted on 07/11/2005 6:25:34 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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To: iconoclast
http://caselaw.findlaw.com/data2/texasstatecases/sc/000224d.htm
http://www.findlaw.com/11stategov/tx/2000_6txsc.html <-- Look for 00-0224

In my opinion, Gonzales and the majority of the Texas court did not strictly interpret legislative intent, despite their insistence that they did.

The entire judicial opinion is available on the web. Instead of accepting what the pundits conclude, and quotes that may not have accurate context, the time and effort to read the source material will pay dividends in the form of better understanding.

218 posted on 07/11/2005 6:30:25 AM PDT by Cboldt
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To: Paloma_55
Attacking another Republican is not going to win us anything

How's Arlen Specter workin' out for ya?

219 posted on 07/11/2005 6:31:32 AM PDT by Haru Hara Haruko
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To: Dawgreg; Hank Rearden

I agree with Dawgreg. I don't agree with everything that W says or does, but he's still my President.


220 posted on 07/11/2005 6:32:11 AM PDT by highball ("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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