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CAFTA threatens sovereignty
Ag Weekly ^ | Jul 08 2005 | Cathy Roemer

Posted on 07/09/2005 2:01:21 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer

TWIN FALLS, Idaho -- "CAFTA is NAFTA on steroids," said Kent Snyder, executive director of The Liberty Committee, a group whose motto is "Political Action From Principle."

Affiliated with congressional representative Ron Paul, R-Texas -- who also opposes the Central American Free Trade Agreement-Dominican Republic -- the committee holds that CAFTA-DR, like the decade-old North American Free Trade Agreement isn't really about true free trade; it's about global managed trade.

"Think about it," Snyder said. "Why does it take over 1,000 pages to define free trade?"

In administrative works for several years CAFTA would create a NAFTA-like free trade zone between the United States and six other countries -- the Dominican Republic, Guatemala, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicaragua and Costa Rica. It would erase most quotas and tariffs on imported goods and services. The trade agreement finally reached a Senate vote June 30. It passed by a narrow margin of 54-45 and moves to the House for a vote sometime next week.

Snyder said the agreement will no doubt be decided "by as little as three or four votes."

"The upcoming vote on CAFTA promises a replay of mafia-style tactics used to coerce votes from reluctant House members," he said. "Already, arms are being twisted; deals and pork payoffs are being made with your tax dollars; political threats have been issued -- and that's only the beginning."

Relinquishing U.S. sovereignty is the biggest reason to oppose CAFTA, he said.

"Then it's the economy, and the list goes down from there," he said.

Snyder referenced CAFTA-DR article 10.16.3 that "places the United States under the jurisdiction of international tribunals supervised by the United Nations."

Article 10.5.2 says international tribunals must use "customary international law" as established by "principle legal systems of the world" when deciding cases.

"CAFTA, like NAFTA, treats the U.S. Constitution like a relic," Snyder said.

Tom DeWeese, president of the American Policy Center, Warrenton, Va., said U.S. sovereignty is absolutely the No. 1 concern with CAFTA.

"Sovereignty is a question of who is in control," he said. "A nation should be in control of it own destiny and should not voluntarily relinquish that control.

"CAFTA is a danger to our independence and to our sovereignty, and it is the job of the U.S. government to protect Americans first," he said.

DeWeese said the trade agreement, like those that have gone before it are simply "a raid on our economy."

"It is a redistribution of wealth, and who has the most wealth?" he asked. "The United States does."

DeWeese said he supports free trade but not the "CAFTA truckload of regulations that tell you how to do it."

Information from the United States Trade Representative's office confirmed that CAFTA-DR countries already enjoy duty free access to the United States on up to 80 percent of their goods exported to the United States. For agriculture exports, CAFTA would reduce tariffs on many U.S goods going to Central America, but just as many would not be duty-free for at least another one to 15 years, the USTR office said.

Under the agreement, American taxpayers will also pay to develop trade with those nations. National Action Plans have been designed to identify each country's trade-capacity-building needs and funnel money from public (and private) sources ... "to make the transition and changes necessary to realize the linkage between trade and development."

Joel Gill, membership chairman for R-CALF USA, a national cattlemen's group, traveled on a fact-finding mission to Central America.

Gill said under CAFTA-DR, normal trade relations using supply quota for imports are not included.

"Beef has been declassified as a perishable and cyclical product, making it immune to 'snapbacks' or quotas of beef entering the country," he said.

Gill noted, too, that the two biggest cattle-producing countries in South America, Argentina and Brazil, could begin shipping cattle to Central America and then on to the United States under CAFTA-DR.

"We are being told that CAFTA is really the model for other trade agreements, like the Free Trade Area of the Americas," he said, adding the FTAA plans to link 34 nations -- the Western Hemisphere -- under one trade agreement.

"Brazil alone produces as much beef as the United State does," Gill said.

Observing intense poverty in some Central American countries, Gill said he isn't buying the claims of equitable trade opportunities.

"Their food-delivery system is sometimes a man on a bicycle with half a beef cutting off pieces for people to buy." That, he said, "flies in the face of all the great trading opportunities we are hearing about with CAFTA."

Idaho opposed

* Sen. Mike Crapo: Growers were not satisfied by administration promises to buy or keep out subsidized sugar entering the country under CAFTA, NAFTA, and new free trade agreements until the end of the current Farm Bill.

* Sen. Larry Craig: The United States should not trade one aspect of our economy for another. This agreement sacrifices the sugar industry -- a vital component of rural, southern Idaho.

RFB:


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cafta; freetrade; ftaa; nafta; redistribution; wealth; wto
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1 posted on 07/09/2005 2:01:21 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
"The upcoming vote on CAFTA promises a replay of mafia-style tactics used to coerce votes from reluctant House members," he said. "Already, arms are being twisted; deals and pork payoffs are being made with your tax dollars; political threats have been issued -- and that's only the beginning."

This is exactly what industry representatives and Washington insiders told me this week.
2 posted on 07/09/2005 2:02:42 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

The cost of CAFTA only continues and continues to go up.


3 posted on 07/09/2005 2:07:33 PM PDT by SunnyD1182
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To: hedgetrimmer
Article 10.5.2 says international tribunals must use "customary international law" as established by "principle legal systems of the world" when deciding cases.

This is utterly and completely in violation of the foundation of our sovereign government, that the Constitution, is the supreme law for AMERICANS and that international tribunals must not take precedence over the United States legal system.
4 posted on 07/09/2005 2:08:19 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
CAFTA:

Communists And Fascists Taking America

5 posted on 07/09/2005 2:09:30 PM PDT by xcamel (Deep Red, stuck in a "bleu" state.)
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To: Erik Latranyi; Reaganwuzthebest; Mase; Mad Dawgg; Trteamer; KC_Conspirator; JesseJane; ...

FYI


6 posted on 07/09/2005 2:11:31 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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CAFTA: Communists And Fascists Taking America

Indeed.

8 posted on 07/09/2005 2:19:52 PM PDT by Paul Ross (George Patton: "I hate to have to fight for the same ground twice.")
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When Congress voted on the North American Free Trade Agreement in 1993, our trade deficit with Canada and Mexico was $8 billion. Now its $115 billion.

Twelve years ago our nation's trade deficit stood at $38 billion.Now due to a series of bilateral and multilateral trade agreements, it has jumped to $618 billion.


9 posted on 07/09/2005 2:31:37 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer
Tom DeWeese, president of the American Policy Center, Warrenton, Va., said U.S. sovereignty is absolutely the No. 1 concern with CAFTA.

"Sovereignty is a question of who is in control," he said. "A nation should be in control of it own destiny and should not voluntarily relinquish that control.

"CAFTA is a danger to our independence and to our sovereignty, and it is the job of the U.S. government to protect Americans first," he said.

Gee, where have I heard this before??? Wonder if anyone will listen now?

10 posted on 07/09/2005 2:31:45 PM PDT by Just A Nobody (I - LOVE - my attitude problem!)
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To: hedgetrimmer
All of this process stuff, is really just a desire for economic autarky. Paul is a hopeless nutter and kook. Trade agreements are often enfored by independent third parties. If one doesn't like how it pans out, then repeal the treaty. The disingenuous of this all is just killing me. What also is odd is just how much hand wringing there is over this rather insignificant event, from an economic perspective.

America is going to have to compete on the economic world stage without a nanny trade regime, or slowly wither away and die. America is more and more the planet itself in so many ways. There is no turning back. Deal with it.

11 posted on 07/09/2005 2:37:17 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: hedgetrimmer

"When Congress voted on the North American Free Trade Agreement in 1993, our trade deficit with Canada and Mexico was $8 billion. Now its $115 billion."

I prefer any free trade agreement that diminishes the ability of government to regulate the business of free people.

Free trade is kryptonite to big, centralized government.


12 posted on 07/09/2005 2:41:16 PM PDT by Frank T
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To: Torie

jousting with the saboteurs?

lol!

> There is no turning back. Deal with it.

you are correct.


13 posted on 07/09/2005 2:46:38 PM PDT by ken21 (it takes a village to brainwash your child + to steal your property! /s)
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To: goushi
Prepare to see health standards of grocercy store produce go to hell. After CAFTA, the grocery stores will be flooded with human feces fertilized fruits and vegetables from Central America.

It's already happened, here in the Pittsburgh area, there were over 500 people infected with Hepatitis A along with 3 or 4 deaths. The reason, vegitables grown in Mexico were contaminated with human feces. I do concur that if CAFTA passes, more of this crap (pun intended B-)) will go on.
14 posted on 07/09/2005 2:47:41 PM PDT by Nowhere Man (Lutheran, Conservative, Neo-Victorian/Edwardian, Michael Savage in '08! - DeCAFTA-nate CAFTA!)
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To: hedgetrimmer

NAFTA destroyed US light manufacturing, China destroyed US heavy manufacturing/electronics manufacturing, India will destroy our IT base, and now CAFTA will finish our small farmers. The US will make money, but not you and me. Looks like my children and grandchildren will stand in the rain and look at those 5000+ SF homes that they will never afford, and no builder will build a 2000 SF homes anymore because there is no market for it. Looks like HUD will have former middle class clients.


15 posted on 07/09/2005 2:55:53 PM PDT by Fee (Great powers never let minor allies dictate who, where and when they must fight.)
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To: Torie
There is no turning back

As long as the federal government is corrupted by the globalist promoting corporatist interests, you are right. But if Americans start electing Americans who will uphold our countries laws then it can be turned back.

It is a strange attitude that someone posting on a site named "freerepublic" should be telling people who want to keep the republic free, to accept global corporatist rule and to just "deal with it".
16 posted on 07/09/2005 3:08:32 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Just mark me down as a NWO globalist. We are omnipresent. We cannot be defeated, not because of some powerful political conspiracy, but because the ecnomic realities cannot be denied by any political structure, in practice. Economics simply overwhelms any rampart, always has, always will. Putting your finger in the dike is futile.


17 posted on 07/09/2005 3:14:23 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: Torie
Economics simply overwhelms any rampart

Then I wonder how the American Revolution was won. Certainly economics was on the side of the British corporations who chartered the settlement of this country.

If the tenets of Americanism would be revived in this country, then your kind would be vanquished post haste. This is why you all deplore patriotism, unrevised US history, freedom of association, sovereign borders and the rights of citizens over the interests of transnational corporations. If you had any affection for America, you would stand up for citizens rights, representative government and not international tribunals, and stop stealing from the American taxpayer to advance your business interests through trade capacity building in countries that use slave and child labor.
18 posted on 07/09/2005 3:22:48 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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To: hedgetrimmer

Your post is one long rant, and I will let it stew in its own juices, but let me say one thing. When it came to the Brits subduing America in in the 18th century, the economics for doing so really, really sucked (America was so far away, so big, the populations so disbursed, the economy so agrarian), particularly after the French supplied gunpowder and naval power to give it that extra muscle to make it more decisive, quicker, than it otherwise would have been. It was sort of like the Russian adventure in Afghanistan.


19 posted on 07/09/2005 3:34:21 PM PDT by Torie (Constrain rogue state courts; repeal your state constitution)
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To: Torie
Your post is one long rant,

Not at all. How do you defend government by international tribunal over elected representation? I am curious to know.
20 posted on 07/09/2005 3:37:48 PM PDT by hedgetrimmer
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