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African Poverty: Today African Leadership is Africa’s Worst Enemy
cameroon-info.net ^ | July 4th, 2005 | © Roland Bup, Great Britain, Correspondance

Posted on 07/09/2005 6:41:59 AM PDT by Liz

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To: dpa5923

Thanks so much.


21 posted on 07/09/2005 7:51:05 AM PDT by lastchance (Hug your babies.)
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To: staytrue

Heheh.......betcha there's a lot of "bridges, skyscrapers and highways" in the jungle, built with aid money secreted in a numbered Swiss account.


22 posted on 07/09/2005 8:00:21 AM PDT by Liz (First God made idiots, for practice. Then he made Congress. Mark Twain)
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To: Liz

Human Nature--in all its glory, in all its stupidity and in all its all. Read it and understand the history of the human race.

It's astonishing to me to realize that most of human history is unwritten and unsaved. What we see today is likely close to what history has always been since time began.

Shivers.


23 posted on 07/09/2005 8:09:55 AM PDT by jolie560 (mic scholars do have a history of studying anf trabslating Greek democracy, however)
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To: bert

" ... there must be some return to colonialism and the reintroduction of adherence to freedom and law."

Bert; "colonialism" and "freedom" are diametrically opposed. I presume what you meant was a return to a relatively competent form of government.


24 posted on 07/09/2005 8:26:38 AM PDT by AngrySpud (Behold, I am The Anti-Crust ... Anti-Hillary)
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To: Liz


of possible interest:
(more of the same)
http://www.neoperspectives.com/charity.htm


25 posted on 07/09/2005 8:56:49 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/scotuspropertythieving.htm)
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To: staytrue

lol - good one. too true.


26 posted on 07/09/2005 9:00:50 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/scotuspropertythieving.htm)
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To: Liz
African Poverty: Today African Leadership is Africa’s Worst Enemy

Uhhhhh, WHAT African Leadership!!??
27 posted on 07/09/2005 9:24:15 AM PDT by DustyMoment (FloriDUH - proud inventors of pregnant/hanging chads and judicide!!)
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To: AngrySpud; bert
"colonialism" and "freedom" are diametrically opposed.

There's a sliding scale here. You can have personal freedom, especially economic freedom under colonial rule. You would not have freedom to change rulers. That's a step up from life in Zimbabwe right now, where all freedoms are being suppressed for much of the population.

Colonialism might not be a nice thing, but there are worse things. And Africa seems to have a taste for the worst.

The choice seems to be to either let them be, to live in the stone age, or to commit continental suicide, or to educate them to Western ways through colonialism.

We'll be considered the great satan, no matter what choice we take.

I believe our past policy was that we didn't care which choice the Africans took, as long as it wasn't to become another well armed outpost of our 1st world enemy, Russia at one point, and China now.

Without a religious basis (which should drive individual effort, not gov't effort), what possible motive does the USA government have to do anything in Africa, except protect our interests in not having the Chinese or Russians or Iranians build nuclear missle launch points or other military bases there?

28 posted on 07/09/2005 9:27:43 AM PDT by slowhandluke
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To: squirt-gun

Why did Bush agree to throw more money down this big black hole of waste? Vote constitution party before it is to late.


29 posted on 07/09/2005 10:26:23 AM PDT by doc
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To: xcamel; lastchance

http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/spiegel/0,1518,druck-363663,00.html

very good.


30 posted on 07/09/2005 10:31:44 AM PDT by traviskicks (http://www.neoperspectives.com/scotuspropertythieving.htm)
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To: AngrySpud; slowhandluke
....I presume what you meant was a return to a relatively competent form of government.....

More specifically I meant the end of Tribalism. The tribe is the source of highest allegiance and strong men control the tribes. The tribes are genetic pools and the inter -tribal friction is natural Darwinian selective action. There can be no nation, not even artificial nations with synthetic colonial established borders, until the tribal tendency is abolished. The foremost example is the slaughter in Rwanda. The same forces are at work over most of the sub-Sahara in varying degrees. The genetic predisposition for action in small tribal populations is not working well in modern large populated societies.

The imposition of order and legal spacers between the tribes is the best way short of extermination of some in favor of others. The imposed colonial democracy over say 100 years or two or three generations is necessary.

Strangely believe it the Movie "Coming To America" taught this theme. The great hope is the introduction of some new genes into the mix to bring salvation. Eddie Murphy realized what was needed and came to America for his bride.

31 posted on 07/09/2005 2:16:30 PM PDT by bert ( The final Crusade is possible......... just piss us off a little more.)
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To: Liz
Giving aid to the utterly corrupt African governments is exactly what fuels their cruel and repressive habits toward their population.

Sometimes, the kindest thing is not to help. Throwing money at them to make liberals feel good about themselves is actually a vicious form of racism. More than that, the idea that people of African descent are somehow inherently incapable of improving their own lives is more liberal racism.

We must stop funding these kinds of governments altogether. Far better that we should rely on missionaries to adequately supervise charity than that we should grant money to our government to give to corrupt African leaders to spend on useless luxury and tribal warfare.

I think the article should have focused more on the misery and destruction caused by the growing Islamic presence in Africa.
32 posted on 07/09/2005 3:54:04 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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