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British Covenant of Security With Islamists Ends - (Hello?)
NEW YORK SUN.COM ^ | JULY 8, 2005 | DANIEL PIPES

Posted on 07/08/2005 2:09:55 PM PDT by CHARLITE

Terrorism usually comes like a bolt from the blue, but not so the four explosions yesterday in London, killing at least 37. Some British Islamist leaders have been warning for months that such violence was imminent.

An Islamist British group called Al-Muhajiroun - "the immigrants" in Arabic, for some time publicly stated that Britain was immune from Islamist violence because of its acceptable behavior toward Muslims within the country's borders. The 24-year-old Sayful Islam, who heads Al-Muhajiroun's Luton branch, announced that he supported Osama Bin Laden "100%" in the quest to achieve "the worldwide domination of Islam," but went on to voice an aversion to himself performing terrorist acts in Britain.

Yet, Mr. Islam endorsed terrorism in Britain in a broader sense. "When a bomb attack happens here, I won't be against it, even if it kills my own children. ... But it is against Islam for me to engage personally in acts of terrorism in the U.K. because I live here. According to Islam, I have a covenant of security with the U.K., as long as they allow us Muslims to live here in peace." He further explained. "If we want to engage in terrorism, we would have to leave the country. It is against Islam to do otherwise."

"It means that Muslims can no longer be considered to have sanctity and security here, therefore they should consider leaving this country and going back to their homelands. Otherwise they are under siege and obviously we do not want to see that we are living under siege."

In a less guarded moment, however, Mr. Mohammed acknowledged that for him, "the life of an unbeliever has no value." Yesterday's explosions mark the end of the "covenant of security." Let's hope they also mark the end of an era of innocence.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: 2005; bombings; covenant; greatbritain; islam; july7; london; muslims; terror; threats; uk; waronterror

1 posted on 07/08/2005 2:09:58 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE

Appeasement does not work. Let the Musloms live in peace and they just multiply and grow until they are strong enough to take your country. Its happening all over the world. I have heard this war called a Crusade, which it wasnt , its time we made it a Crusade. Clean out the rabble, eradicate terrorists like you would step on a cockroach.


2 posted on 07/08/2005 2:15:15 PM PDT by sgtbono2002
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To: CHARLITE
Read also here at FR:

Terror on the Dole

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1438590/posts

Some of the information in this Pipes article come from earlier interviews with British Muslims.

3 posted on 07/08/2005 2:17:34 PM PDT by Lorianne
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To: CHARLITE

As one of those whose life apparently has no value, I say, get out of Britain, the US, Canada, and wherever else you have migrated to. We have allowed you into our countries in peace. We let you live and work in peace, and you return our hospitality with murder. Get out! Get out now! We don't want you here. Until you become civilized go back to your caves.


4 posted on 07/08/2005 2:17:54 PM PDT by kjo
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To: kjo

TIME TO END THE MUSLIM OCCUPATION OF EUROPE!!!


5 posted on 07/08/2005 2:22:48 PM PDT by Lekker 1 ("Who the hell wants to hear actors talk?"- Harry M. Warner, Warner Bros., 1927)
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To: Lekker 1

For the second time you mean. (First time was from 711 to 1492.)


6 posted on 07/08/2005 2:38:02 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

and then we had the ottomans.

Third time is a charm...


7 posted on 07/08/2005 2:43:19 PM PDT by Eurotwit (WI)
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To: Eurotwit
You're right of course. I was fixated on Western Europe.

One lesson is the value of perseverance. Muslims seem to have a much, much greater sense of history; along with a much greater tenacity than most infidels. Unfortunately, they might also be thinking "third time is a charm" -- while we in the ahistorical west have no similar backsight to guide us forward.
8 posted on 07/08/2005 2:59:41 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: sgtbono2002
"Its time we made it a Crusade. Clean out the rabble, eradicate terrorists like you would step on a cockroach."

You are absolutely right. I'm amazed that so few people see that this is what MUST be done! It is the only way to defeat these cockroaches.

Why aren't you running the State Dept?

Thanks for your comment.......I couldn't agree more.

Char (:

9 posted on 07/08/2005 3:05:38 PM PDT by CHARLITE (I propose a co-Clinton team as permanent reps to Pyonyang, w/out possibility of repatriation....)
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

"Muslims seem to have a much, much greater sense of history; along with a much greater tenacity than most infidels."

So does Satan, who is the one energizing these people toward the path of murder.


10 posted on 07/08/2005 3:14:35 PM PDT by avenir (Don't insult my intelligentness!)
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To: CHARLITE; All
Crosslinked:

 Terror Strike- London!

11 posted on 07/08/2005 3:27:22 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old Keyboard Cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the Sunset...)
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To: MadIvan
"When a bomb attack happens here, I won't be against it, even if it kills my own children... Mr. Mohammed acknowledged that for him, "the life of an unbeliever has no value."
12 posted on 07/08/2005 3:27:59 PM PDT by marron
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To: avenir

Too true.

Unfortunately, many in the West (Americans call them "liberals") are addicted to instant gratification, and don't seem to recall Burke's words: "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing."


13 posted on 07/08/2005 3:28:14 PM PDT by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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