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Blog of Suspect in Idaho Kidnappings Mentions Missing Minnesota Girl
AP ^ | Jul 8, 2005 | Steve Karnowski

Posted on 07/08/2005 12:47:17 PM PDT by phoenix_004

The convicted sex offender accused of kidnapping two children in Idaho wrote about a missing Minnesota girl on his Weblog, and investigators are now looking into whether he might have had anything to do with her disappearance. On his Internet diary, Joseph Edward Duncan III wrote in early 2004 that he was afraid he'd be blamed for the disappearance of 5-year-old Leanna "Beaner" Warner.

The little girl was last seen June 14, 2003, after leaving her home in Chisholm, some 190 miles east of Fargo, N.D., where Duncan lived.

Chisholm Police Chief Scott Erickson said Friday that investigators are trying to determine if there's any more of a connection between Duncan and Leanna's disappearance. But he acknowledged it's a long shot in a frustrating case.

"In reality, every community that has a missing child is going to try to connect this guy to it," Erickson said.

Duncan is charged with abducting 9-year-old Dylan Groene and 8-year-old Shasta Groene from their home, where their 13-year-old brother, their mother and her boyfriend were bludgeoned to death. The bodies were found May 16. Police say Duncan also is a suspect in the killings.

Authorities had been looking for Duncan since he jumped bail in Minnesota on charges of molesting a 6-year-old boy on a Detroit Lakes playground in July 2004.

In a posting dated Jan. 4, 2004 - more than six months after Leanna's disappearance - Duncan wrote that he just found out about the case.

"I tried to figure out what I was doing that day, since I'm always afraid of getting accused when something like this happens," he wrote.

Leanna's father, Chris Warner, told the Duluth News Tribune for a story published Friday he found it unsettling that Duncan would mention his daughter's disappearance.

"I'm worried sick," Warner said. "It's kind of a double-edged sword. You hope it's not the case, but you also come away relieved knowing that there's something."

Erickson said FBI and state investigators were trying to determine if Duncan was in the Chisholm area around the time Leanna disappeared. He said he hadn't heard of any such evidence as of Friday.

Duncan wrote that according to his entries in Quicken, a personal finance computer program, he had gone to watch two co-workers parachute out of an airplane on that day. He also went shopping, but couldn't find the receipts.

Duncan called his journal "Blogging the Fifth Nail" - an allegorical reference to Christ's suffering on the cross. He used it as a soapbox to vent over the stigma of being a convicted sex offender, and wrote that finding out about Leanna was "the proverbial last straw" that led him to start the blog.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Idaho
KEYWORDS: groene; kidnappings; missing
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1 posted on 07/08/2005 12:47:19 PM PDT by phoenix_004
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To: phoenix_004

What a guy! (major sarcasm)

The most suitable punishment for this piece of carp would be for someone to whack off his member piece by piece, without any anesthesia.


2 posted on 07/08/2005 12:51:22 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy

Have you been to his blog?


3 posted on 07/08/2005 12:53:06 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< OurFlorida.true.ws Impeach Judge Greer)
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To: tutstar

No, I'm just commenting as to the initial post. Don't intend to read this animal's writings.


4 posted on 07/08/2005 12:54:18 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: phoenix_004

Amazing. In school, got a website. How hard was it for officials to keep track of this guy? Calling Barney Fife


5 posted on 07/08/2005 12:58:02 PM PDT by commonasdirt (Reading DU so you won't hafta)
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To: fatnotlazy
We've decided that "rehabilitation" is a viable alternative to retribution.We are wrong.

A .22 bullet behind the ear (after an expensive, lengthy, taxpayer -funded trial) is not that costly. Go ahead and pay public defenders two or three times what they make---then get rid of numerous appeals and reinstate capitol punishment. A bone to the "lefty lawyer groups" and one to the "bloodthirsty right".

6 posted on 07/08/2005 12:58:47 PM PDT by Rakkasan1 (most politicians would rather be important rather than useful)
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To: fatnotlazy

No punishment is too severe for him imo. Some of us were getting pretty gruesome on the thread when Shasta was found. These folks should never ever be allowed to live outside a jail.

I've been reading it as well as the comments people are making. I've made 2 reports to authorities as well from what I've read there. There are clues for law enforcement there as well.

Duncan has also been to Florida, the offenders may register like they're supposed to but that is a false sense of security. How in the world was I to know he'd been visiting my state.

The other day I was going into the grocery store and noticed a guy carrying something with him. He had a GPS locater on as well and I haven't been able to find his pic on the offender network so far. I wish I'd asked his name because he's out of his zone whoever he was.


7 posted on 07/08/2005 12:59:57 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< OurFlorida.true.ws Impeach Judge Greer)
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To: phoenix_004

"Blogging the Fifth Nail" - an allegorical reference to Christ's suffering on the cross.

Can someone enlighten me on this?  I thought there were only three nails.  (not sarcasm)

Owl_Eagle

(If what I just wrote makes you sad or angry,

 it was probably sarcasm)

8 posted on 07/08/2005 1:07:14 PM PDT by End Times Sentinel (In Memory of my Dear Friend Henry Lee II)
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To: fatnotlazy

I think that his limbs should be whacked off... with a club.


9 posted on 07/08/2005 1:27:05 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (G-d is not a Republican. But Satan is definitely a Democrat.)
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To: tutstar

Duncan, it seems has been all over...each time he is caught, he is let go. For his last offense, he was let out on bail. The judge who granted bail said he wasn't sure if, at the time he ordered bail, he was aware of Duncan's prior history. What a crock!

I keep saying this: We continue over and over again to let out these vicious, vile, subhuman piles of rotting garbage to prey on our children. I'm tired of hearing the bleeding hearts whining about our cruelty to these poor, often abused themselves pedophiles. We are supposed to feel sorry for them because they had a stinking childhood, they were molested, they didn't get a shiny new bike one Christmas (pick your sob story). We are supposed to ignore the fact that none of these less than perfect lives have any bearing on their voluntary (yes pedophilia is voluntary) decisions to cause often irreparable harm to the smallest and weakest among us.

I don't usually wish bad things on people, but these are not people...they are as I said subhuman. They deserve no pity. Rather, they deserve the most painful, disgusting, degrading and severe punishment we can possibly mete out.


10 posted on 07/08/2005 1:32:53 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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I don't believe the judge wasn't aware of prior history either. We've had 3 girls killed in Florida by these pervs. The one that killed Carlie Brucia would have been in jail if the judge had played by the book. The parole officer was recommending reincarceration. Society has to learn and we have to keep an eye on our kids, it's our job.

Granted no one can be guaranteed their child's safety but there are so many little ones that are unsupervised while out playing I can't believe it. Some parents need to be more serious about their responsibility.


11 posted on 07/08/2005 1:44:26 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< OurFlorida.true.ws Impeach Judge Greer)
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To: phoenix_004; All

Is it weird that he molested boys and girls? I thought there was usually a preference? (Not that it matters--I just wonder when I see news stories on him, or threads about him)


12 posted on 07/08/2005 1:55:04 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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To: tutstar

Granted no one can be guaranteed their child's safety but there are so many little ones that are unsupervised while out playing I can't believe it. Some parents need to be more serious about their responsibility.

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You have a point there about a lack of parental supervision...seems to be a common thing in many places. But to be fair, regarding Shasta and Dylan -- presumably, this creep killed their mother, brother and the mother's boyfriend. I can't speak as to whether the mother was a vigilant supervisor of her children, but obviously, in a situation like this, parental supervision would not have made a difference.

Parental supervision is important, but perhaps more so is whatever efforts we can expend to keep these lowlifes away from our children in the first place.


13 posted on 07/08/2005 2:23:25 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: justche

He considers himself "open-minded". Here's his blog. He changes drastically from Jan 2004 to May 2005. Definitely sick.

http://fifthnail.blogspot.com


14 posted on 07/08/2005 2:23:31 PM PDT by TaxRelief
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To: tutstar

http://fifthnail.blogspot.com/


15 posted on 07/08/2005 2:25:27 PM PDT by adam_az (It's the border, stupid!)
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To: TaxRelief

Definitely sick.
***
Not sick...evil.


16 posted on 07/08/2005 2:39:17 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: fatnotlazy
I can't speak as to whether the mother was a vigilant supervisor of her children, but obviously, in a situation like this, parental supervision would not have made a difference.

Right. That's why I said there's no guarantee because you could always be caught in the night unprepared or at some other inopportune time.

Florida has a center where they keep the "incurables" but the insane thing about the system is that there are a lot of repeat offenders who are living in our neighborhoods. The laws and penalties are not hard enough on the offenders to keep us safe, at least safer than we are now.

As far as I'm concerned, first offense and they have forfeited the privilege to live among the rest of us.

17 posted on 07/08/2005 2:59:22 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< OurFlorida.true.ws Impeach Judge Greer)
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To: adam_az

Yep, have you read any of the comments?


18 posted on 07/08/2005 3:00:15 PM PDT by tutstar ( <{{--->< OurFlorida.true.ws Impeach Judge Greer)
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To: tutstar

As far as I'm concerned, first offense and they have forfeited the privilege to live among the rest of us.

***

I agree with you there. I don't buy the concept of sex offender 1, 2 and 3 -- with 3 being the "incurable" and the others perhaps worthy of rehabilitation.

We have to stop treating this as a disease -- the implication being that there is hope that with "treatment" the offenders can live normal, productive lives in civilized society. They cannot. We have to think of such behavior as evil, pure and simple. We need to treat these actions as heinous crimes punishable by death -- the only way to ensure these criminals NEVER have the potential of committing these crimes ever again.


19 posted on 07/08/2005 4:37:28 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: TaxRelief

You know, I've looked at his site a few times, and I just can't make myself read it. *shaking my head* I really don't even know what to say about it, I don't know how monsters like him walk around and seem relatively normal. I certainly don't know how you protect yourself from people like him, that will kill a whole family for his obsession. It's mind boggling!


20 posted on 07/08/2005 8:56:07 PM PDT by justche (No one can go back and make a brand new start, any one can start now and make a brand new ending)
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