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Why has U.S. been spared?
Orlando Sentinel ^ | 08 July 2005 | Peter A. Brown

Posted on 07/08/2005 11:01:56 AM PDT by Lando Lincoln

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To: wtc911
If I (an American, mind you) had suggested to you in 1945 that Douglas MacArthur had been paid $500,000 by the government of the Philippines in 1942, you probably would have called me a Canadian, a French surrender-monkey, Michael Moore, Howard Dean, etc. -- right?

No, that kind of sh!t can't ever happen.

121 posted on 07/08/2005 12:47:42 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Stashiu

Exactly.


122 posted on 07/08/2005 12:48:56 PM PDT by null and void (You'll learn more on FR by accident, than other places by design)
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To: Stashiu

new = knew

It was spelled right! Oy!


123 posted on 07/08/2005 12:49:14 PM PDT by Stashiu (RVN, 1969-70)
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To: Little Pig
I thought there was a Hezbollah cell in DFW too.

I'm sure that Steven Emerson's analysis is neither complete nor current. Suffice it to say that radical Islam is everywhere in America. It's certainly on cable TV, with Islamic sermons being delivered right to motel rooms and homes across the land. It's on the Internet. It's on radio. And we'll be bringing in more thanks to our globalist leaders.

124 posted on 07/08/2005 12:49:17 PM PDT by John Filson
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To: andyk
Americans worry more about being blown up now than when thousands of Soviet ICBMs with multiple nuclear warheads were pointed at the United States. As a generation Xer, and child of the 80's, I have to vehemently disagree with this statement.

How would an 80's child that did not live through most of the cold war know?

Maybe we are next on the agenda.

125 posted on 07/08/2005 12:49:54 PM PDT by libill (The first casualty of War is Truth-disputed origin)
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To: frogjerk

You forgot the:


1993 wtc bombing


126 posted on 07/08/2005 12:50:13 PM PDT by JeffersonRepublic.com (Visit the Jefferson Republic for a conservative news portal.)
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To: Sam the Sham
U.S. Mexico Border
This set of fences along with 32 guards per mile proved such a failure that Jsamie Gorelick's plan to build them all across the border was abandoned.
See Inspector General's Report on Operation Gate Keeper

Men willing to die to feed their children aren't going to be stopped by silly fences.

127 posted on 07/08/2005 12:50:14 PM PDT by bayourod (Winning elections is everything in a democracy. Losing is for people unclear on the concept.)
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To: Alberta's Child
If I (an American, mind you) had suggested to you in 1945 that Douglas MacArthur had been paid $500,000 by the government of the Philippines in 1942, you probably would have called me a Canadian, a French surrender-monkey, Michael Moore, Howard Dean, etc. -- right?

**************

Not then, because I wasn't yet born. However, I'm willing to consider it now.

128 posted on 07/08/2005 12:52:34 PM PDT by trisham ("Live Free or Die," General John Stark, July 31, 1809)
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To: Alberta's Child

Look, I realize that conspiracies have a certain comfort level. Deals are being. People are in charge. There is an organizational structure.

But the truth of the matter is, we're at war. These people really, really hate us. Many of these people have dedicated their entire lives to inflicting pain and suffering on our society.

As Americans we can debate how best to deal with these cretins. But make no mistake as to which side is right and which side you are on in this war.


129 posted on 07/08/2005 12:53:46 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: JeffersonRepublic.com

The poster was refering to "since the 1993 WTC Bombing..."


130 posted on 07/08/2005 12:54:54 PM PDT by frogjerk
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To: null and void

You could be right, but I clearly remember the smoke from the first tower turning very dark after some period of time. I believe the sprinkler system functioned as it was designed to, but it simply wasn't designed to deal with an event involving fuel-fed fires burning on multiple floors simultaneously.


131 posted on 07/08/2005 12:56:54 PM PDT by Alberta's Child (I ain't got a dime, but what I got is mine. I ain't rich, but Lord I'm free.)
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To: Lando Lincoln
- Because their capabilities are, and an always have been, quite limited.

- Because our level of awareness and surveillance has greatly increased.

- Because the US does not have the high concentrations of disaffected Muslim youth present in England and some other parts of Europe.

- Because Muslims in the US are less angry at their country of residence than their European counterparts, as to date they have encountered less prejudice and economic and social discrimination here.

That this reason is is *very* important, and an advantage we should be careful not to squander - that for example for a good while it's probably been worth more to make it difficult for overseas terrorist operations to recruit US supporters who can readily blend in to US society than it is to anger Muslims in order to extract stale intelligence from low-level operatives imprisoned at Gitmo.

132 posted on 07/08/2005 1:01:35 PM PDT by M. Dodge Thomas (More of the same, only with more zeros on the end.)
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To: Final Authority
Read the word "may"? That is a problem for many on these threads, they can't read English.

I can read English fine, thank you. Just because you qualified your fantastic statement with a modal auxiliary expressing likelihood doesn't diminish my point. There was never any possibility of such happening.

Now if you are saying that GWB doesn't have the 'nads to do what many of us are calling for him to do in a situation of that premise, then just say so, if you aren't, then explain.

Yet I should have thought my intention was obvious enough. Verbum sapienti satis est and all that, but maybe I overestimated your mental powers?

133 posted on 07/08/2005 1:06:06 PM PDT by Chappaquiddick Crawdad ("E unum pluribus"? Perhaps you meant "ex uno plures", or is that "stultus sum"? hmmm...)
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To: Alberta's Child; MarkL

People who talk about the 'protesters' beating America in Vietnam have misunderstood as completely as Brezhnev did.

In December, 65, LBJ's economic advisers flatly told him that he could have three of the following four things.

1. A major increase in domestic spending (i.e., Medicare, War on Poverty).

2. A major war.

3. No tax increase and therefore a booming, full employment economy.

4. No inflation.

LBJ tried to have it all. And because of this inflation started to take off in the late 60s and surged to 10% plus well before the oil crisis. That's the level at which people on fixed incomes are going to be screaming bloody murder. Nixon had to end inflation. Economically, a perfect storm situation was brewing because this coincided with the emergence of Japan as the primary exporter and the entry of the main cohort of the baby boom with their worthless liberal arts BA's into the work force, depressing entry level salaries from 60's soaring levels. He pursued deflationary measures, abandoned the Bretton Woods "gold standard", and decided to get out of Vietnam. The reasons for getting out of Vietnam were economic, not political.

After all, if the peace movement was so powerful why wasn't it the dominant political force of the 70's and 80's ? Why couldn't it put McGovern into the White House or keep Reagan out ? Once horror stories about college graduates parking cars or waiting on tables filtered back on campus, didn't the counterculture and the student left collapse pretty quickly ?

Brezhnev thought it was the peace movement. He therefore decided to put the Soviet Union on what amounted to a total war footing to build a military that would intimidate a craven West. He poured vast sums into Soviet proxy states in Africa and Asia. He built a huge blue water navy from scratch. He made a mistake that ran the Soviet economy straight into the ground because he overestimated Western pacifism and defeatism. One might say that the decisive battle of the Cold War was over deploying the Pershing missiles and the reelection of Reagan, Kohl, and Thatcher and the total defeat of the European and American no-nukes protesters.


134 posted on 07/08/2005 1:12:57 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: Chappaquiddick Crawdad

So you know in advance what GWB will do in such a circumstance? Why aren't you at the casino or reading palms?

If you intended to say something but didn't, how the hell, since I do not know you from a hole in the wall, know what your intentions are. Was it an implication? If so, then why did you not write that? Is it because again I find your ability to communicate deficient or is it because you are?

On the contrary, I think you greatly overestimate your mental power, or underestimate your weakness.


135 posted on 07/08/2005 1:15:34 PM PDT by Final Authority
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To: bayourod

You underestimate the resolve of the American people, my countrymen, to protect their nation.


136 posted on 07/08/2005 1:15:51 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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To: andyk

I should have been more descriptive. I asked ho would an 80's child know. I did not mean that to be offending and I hope I didn't. I truly am curious. I refer all the time to World War 2, yet that was long before my time.


137 posted on 07/08/2005 1:21:29 PM PDT by libill (The first casualty of War is Truth-disputed origin)
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To: Squantos
Just my opinion of course....

Widely shared by reasonable people, though.

138 posted on 07/08/2005 1:22:51 PM PDT by meadsjn
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To: Sam the Sham
"You underestimate the resolve of the American people"

No, I just recognize the ignorance of the Antis who say "Bush is a traitor because he won't build a fence on the border."

If the American people really felt strongly about illegal workers and their employers they would do something where the illegals live and work.

But the American people don't feel any serious threat as evidenced by the number of local and state governments that have adopted sanctuary policies.

It appears that the American people are not in favor of illegal aliens but don't want the undocumented employees in their own town deported.

139 posted on 07/08/2005 1:25:05 PM PDT by bayourod (Winning elections is everything in a democracy. Losing is for people unclear on the concept.)
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To: bayourod

No state government has adopted any sanctuary laws. Just big city mayors easily bullied by ethnic lobbies.

A house in Long Island that had been letting illegals stay ten to a room and thereby bringing down the neighborhood was torched. A vigilante act. The neighbors cheered. Other houses in the town immediately threw out their illegal ten to a room tenants. Illegals create filth and chaos wherever they congregate and are as welcome as plague rats.


140 posted on 07/08/2005 1:29:31 PM PDT by Sam the Sham
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