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To: PAR35
Try visiting a "happy-clappy" church. They will all be holding their NIV Bibles while being entertained for an hour or so. They will be anti-abortion and will mostly vote Republican, but they won't tolerate traditional worship.

I go to what you would consider a "happy-clappy" church. I'll be holding my King James Version Bible and praising God and studying His word for an hour or two. Yes we sing praise choruses (Shout to the Lord etc) but we also do an old hymn from time to time.

(For the uninformed, the King James, New King James and several other bible versions were translated using formal equivalence, that is, word for word translation. The NIV and several other versions were translated using dynamic equivalence, that is, thought for thought translation. A formally equivalent version will always be closer in meaning to the original manuscripts as the translators' opinions don't get as much chance to enter into the work. I actually use a parrallel KJV/NIV to get the best of both worlds. Greater readability from the NIV but greater accuracy from the KJV. In case of conflict the KJV wins out due to more accurate translation technique)

Now define traditional worship? Is a group of people singing hymns not traditional worship? After all that's what Jesus and His disciples did. Of course they probably didn't sing "Amazing Grace" or "How Great Thou Art" but since Jesus is God He can probably get away with it right? < /heavy sarcasm>

Worship is worship no matter what the music is or the songs being sung. Worship is an attitude of the heart and can be done in church or in a fishing boat or while driving to work etc. Don't get caught up in formulaic definitions of worship (First, second, and last verse of any song from the approved hymnal. But any hymn older than 150 years should be OK)

16 posted on 07/08/2005 8:20:28 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: John O

"Worship is an attitude of the heart and can be done in church or in a fishing boat or while driving to work etc."

Thank you. Man looks at the outward appearance ("happy clappy" or hymns and liturgy), but God looks on the heart. 1 Samuel 16:7


19 posted on 07/08/2005 9:32:17 AM PDT by Rocky Mountain Mama (Rummy and Condi in '08 ... Now THAT'S a ticket I could get behind!!)
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To: John O

Also, don't get caught up in "Traditional is bad" or "anyone that doesn't do it our way is not welcome any longer". Unfortunately, this is the newest method (or fad).

Rick Warren writes in "The Purpose Driven Church" that the old-timers who want to hold on to Traditional music are idolators. So aren't those who only want contemporary music also idolators? Why isn't that true for both factions? Unfortunately, many new Christians aren't taught the difference in actual worship from music ("Praise & Worship").


21 posted on 07/08/2005 10:41:39 AM PDT by TommyDale
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