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The Same Old, Same Old . . .
July 8, 2005 | Victor Davis Hanson

Posted on 07/08/2005 5:10:55 AM PDT by mal

The British may react very differently than the Spanish did after Madrid — by doing nothing rather than by retreating from Iraq.

In the corrupt West these days, that is something.

We all know the score of this war now in the near four years since September 11. The London bombings should remind us how the old tired game works.

Causes Failed states in the Middle East — autocratic, statist, unfree, intolerant of women and other religions — blame the West for their self-inflicted miseries. Sometimes they are theocratic, like the late Taliban or the current Iranian mullahs. But more often they are dictatorial like the Syrians, Pakistanis, Saudis, or Egyptians, who all, in varying degrees and in lieu of reform, have come to accommodations with the terrorists to shift popular anguish onto the West and the Jews.

That is the Petri dish of Islamic fascism, an evil that will only disappear when the dictatorships that allow it or nourish it do as well. Whether the jihadists are in Iraq, the United States, or Europe, they all share a sick notion that someone else (the decadent Western oppressor and unbeliever) is responsible for their own poverty and backwardness rather than the fundamentalism, corruption, bias, and intolerance endemic to the Middle East.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: jihad; jihadists; london; vdh; victordavishanson; waronterror; wot; wwiv
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To: UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide

Oh, he has plenty of answers. It's not the first time you read Hanson, is it? If its indeed the first: see his own website http://www.victorhanson.com, his archive at NRO: http://www.nationalreview.com/hanson/hanson-archive.asp and posts of his articles here on FR: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/keyword?k=victordavishanson

His approach (in my words, not a direct quote) is: don't get wobbly, destroy the bastards, don't pay attention to the shrieks of the multiculturists appeasers, drain the swamp of the Mideast dysfunction that spills its anguish onto the world.

Yes, sometimes he is less optimistic that we (the West in general, not the people of the FR type) can master the will to win


21 posted on 07/08/2005 6:11:14 AM PDT by Tolik
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To: Rummyfan
We have to stop putting up with the Islamists - ok, Islama-whackos - preaching hatred and fascism in our midst

Which means do what?

and ignore their claim of victim status.

And do what?

We have to be a lot less finicky on the military side too, and just go after those we see as sponsoring terrorism, and eschew the UN-dance steps.

And attack whom?

See what I mean. Just generalities because enunciating specifics makes you the target.
22 posted on 07/08/2005 6:16:51 AM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (Give Them Liberty Or Give Them Death! - Islam Delenda Est! - Rumble thee forth...)
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To: Tolik
" ... Western self-loathing and guilt is essential: A fascist agenda of the jihadist — religious persecution, gender apartheid, racism, militarist autocracy, and xenophobia — all that must be embedded deeply within the postmodern landscape of the oppressed. A non-Christian and non-Western “other” can mask his venom only through victim status, grafting his cause to the same exploited groups that seek from Western society benefaction and compensation."


Being an American nationalist, I have no self-loathing and have no guilt. I do have a piss poor attitude and a supreme desire for survival.

Open up the hunting season. Let the thinning of their herds begin.

23 posted on 07/08/2005 6:17:43 AM PDT by G.Mason
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To: mal

http://www.nationalreview.com/hanso...00507080811.asp

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Terror is the signature of the Islamist: hit, back off; hit, back off — hoping in a few years to erode the will and nerve of affluent and leisured Western countries.
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The trick is instead to wage war insidiously, incrementally, and stealthily to avoid an overwhelming response. A cooling-off period in between 9/11 and 7/7 in which Western apologists, pacifists, and Islamist sympathizers go to work is essential for the terror to continue.
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Hanson tells it like it is.


24 posted on 07/08/2005 6:24:46 AM PDT by MEG33 (GOD BLESS OUR ARMED FORCES)
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To: visitor

Thanks for the ping! I will be sending this to many...


25 posted on 07/08/2005 3:04:57 PM PDT by NewLand (Faith in The Lord trumps all!)
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