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Maybe it's time FINALLY to go and get Osama? Remember Osama? Anybody? Anybody?
churchillbuff

Posted on 07/07/2005 12:35:25 PM PDT by churchillbuff

I was lectured on Freerepublic that I was supposed to "feel safer" because we captured Saddam -- even though there's no evidence that he was behind 9-11. Osama is the guy that Bush promised to get "dead or alive" -- but four years later, he's still out there, free as a jail bird.

Maybe it's time to refocus on the mastermind and culprits who were behind 9-11?

Prediction: I'll get flamed as a "DU provacateur" for advocating that we go after somebody who killed 3000-plus people on American soil.


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To: churchillbuff

I won't flame you for being concerned about Osama Bin Hidin', but I will flame you for being terribly short-sighted.

While Osama is the visible face of Islamic extremism, he is merely a symptom associated with a far wosre problem: the inability of the Muslim world to join the rest of us in the 21st century.

We can argue all day about what the "root causes" of terrorism are, and every point-counterpoint made will have some merit, but at the end of the day we're not dealing with an individual or an organization --- we're dealing with a mindset that hides under the virtue of religious belief.

When the Muslims make the great leap forward out of the 7th century, the Osamas, Saddams and Ayahtollahs will all disappear. In the meantime, unfortunately, people will die, economies will be ruined and suffering will continue.

Muslims must realize that this is a battle that they cannot win because Western society is dynamic while theirs is static. The sooner they come to this realization, and more importantly, make an effort to correct it, the better off we'll all be.

The ball is in their court. In the meantime, we must continue to defend ourselves and our allies, and meet force with force where necessary. The only alternative is surrender.


21 posted on 07/07/2005 12:43:17 PM PDT by Wombat101 (Sanitized for YOUR protection...)
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To: churchillbuff
"Refocus"? What is the basis for claiming we lost focus? Have you heard anything from the folks on the ground in Afghanistan that they do not have enough troops to do their job? Any complaints from the special forces guys that they are too busy in Iraq or elsewhere?

Facts are we have lousy intelligence on the groups, they are virtually impossible to infiltrate and we are searching for one guy in a huge area of miserable terrain. What specifically is it that you think we should be doing that you do not believe we are doing?
22 posted on 07/07/2005 12:43:23 PM PDT by Steelerfan
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To: churchillbuff

Oh, so now Bush is responsible for the UK's open borders?


23 posted on 07/07/2005 12:44:00 PM PDT by Coop (www.heroesandtraitors.org)
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To: churchillbuff

You know where he is?
If so, tell those who can do something about it.


24 posted on 07/07/2005 12:44:03 PM PDT by Darksheare (Hey troll, Sith happens.)
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To: churchillbuff
For an example from history, I think we should look to the ex-confederate 'outlaws' of the old west.

Like the James brothers.

It's just not that easy. It'll take years, and we'll never get them all.

But victory, eventually, is certain.

25 posted on 07/07/2005 12:44:31 PM PDT by Dominic Harr
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To: churchillbuff
a good idea

Haven't you noticed that this never became a huge story? It's because of those three words above--we don't KNOW, we have AN IDEA. If Bush knew exactly where UBL was, he'd get him. The CIA's word is still not the gold standard, and having a "good idea" ("In Pakistan somewhere"?) isn't actionable intel. All it does is get nervous nellies thinking "Oooh! Oooh! We're letting him run free!".

Of course we should get him, but anyone who knows the most basic facts about Al Qaeda knows that it doesn't rely on one man; notice that the "planners" of 9-11 were numerous?

26 posted on 07/07/2005 12:45:04 PM PDT by Darkwolf377 (6/30/05 budget deficit down http://www.csmonitor.com/2005/0620/p17s01-cogn.html)
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To: churchillbuff
No flames, no rebukes, no..."when do you leave?"

I thnk it's a little tougher than that, I believe the military has a good idea where he is, but marching across foreign borders right now "wouldn't be prudent" as GHWB put it.

I've read your posts before and probably replied to a few, no need for name calling or insults, I think you're as red as the rest of us, but ask a serious question. Islam is such a deep dark place, I don't think just getting Osama will solve the problem.

27 posted on 07/07/2005 12:45:09 PM PDT by infidel29 ("It is only the warlike power of a civilized people that can give peace to the world."- T. Roosevelt)
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To: churchillbuff

Who are you again?


28 posted on 07/07/2005 12:46:19 PM PDT by theDentist (The Dems have put all their eggs in one basket-case: Howard "Belltower" Dean.)
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To: churchillbuff; All

Even if we catch Osama, the war on terror will not be finished..


29 posted on 07/07/2005 12:46:57 PM PDT by KevinDavis (the space/future belongs to the eagles, the earth/past to the groundhogs)
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To: churchillbuff

ZZZZZZZZZZZ. ZZZZZZZZZ.


30 posted on 07/07/2005 12:46:59 PM PDT by Stentor
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To: churchillbuff

" Aren't open borders wonderful? "

How dare you be opportunistic over the deaths in London.


31 posted on 07/07/2005 12:47:12 PM PDT by Darksheare (Hey troll, Sith happens.)
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To: churchillbuff

Nothing but more hot air from you.


32 posted on 07/07/2005 12:47:18 PM PDT by Run Silent Run Deep (PRAY FOR THOSE THAT HURT AND HATE US)
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To: churchillbuff

As we speak a Navy SEAL is allegedly about to be murdered. Captured while conducting secret operations.

Go ask your pathetic, sniveling, lame ass question to him.


33 posted on 07/07/2005 12:47:28 PM PDT by Pondman88
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To: churchillbuff

34 posted on 07/07/2005 12:47:43 PM PDT by Registered (They couldn't find the artist, so they hung the picture)
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To: churchillbuff

You're spewing lines of the lefties..Change the station, now!


35 posted on 07/07/2005 12:48:06 PM PDT by hope
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To: GottaLuvAkitas1

Exactly.


36 posted on 07/07/2005 12:48:22 PM PDT by Indy Pendance
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To: churchillbuff

Tell that to the Navy SEALS that were lost recently in the hunt for the scum. NEWS FLASH, Even if we capture OBL terrorism would not disappear, but would continue until the radical islamists are all dead or have seen the error of their ways (yeh, like that would ever happen). Terrorism finds strength in Iran and Syria and what better way to lever pressure against them is to be in their back yard. You need to see the bigger picture.


37 posted on 07/07/2005 12:48:24 PM PDT by Godzilla (Liberals have taken the lead in the practice of arguing ad hitlerum.)
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To: Registered

A Masterpiece!


38 posted on 07/07/2005 12:48:56 PM PDT by hope
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To: churchillbuff
Maybe you should call or email Rumsfeld and tell him your thoughts. /s
39 posted on 07/07/2005 12:49:40 PM PDT by jennyjenny
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To: churchillbuff

Are you honestly that simple?


40 posted on 07/07/2005 12:50:23 PM PDT by rintense
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