[Black Tooth]

He said "We are fighting them in Iraq so we don't have to fight them here". The English are in Iraq too, but did it stop this attack on London?

Same here. If NY subways were hit this afternoon, killing thousands, how do you plan on fighting them here anyway, other than securing our borders and implementing real immigration reform?

You can't have enough security.

I agree and we don't have enough. Just the other day, 49 people were found wandering around a U.S. Airforce base. All of them were in this country illegally. Does this sound like security to you?

[Arthur Wildfire! March]

You are correct that we need safer borders. But what Bush said is generally true: we need to take the war to enemy territory. If you are in a completely defensive mode, you will lose every time.