Posted on 07/07/2005 8:25:30 AM PDT by SwinneySwitch
GOLIAD - If you're going to be a minuteman and patrol the border for illegal immigrants, you'll have to behave.
That was the message given to about 40 presumably would-be recruits who showed up in the 103-degree heat for the first meeting of the Goliad chapter of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps.
"You've now joined a higher calling. If you're going to do this, you're really going to have to search your soul and ask yourself whether you can follow procedures," Kenneth Buelter of Sarco, vice-president of the newly formed Goliad chapter, told the men and women gathered late Wednesday afternoon in the bleachers on the shady side of a dusty Goliad rodeo arena.
"This organization won't survive even the idea of impropriety," said Buelter, who, along with chapter president Bill Parmley of Goliad County, laid out the standard operating procedures for local members of the Arizona-based citizens' group, which is opposed to illegal immigration into the United States and is planning in October to patrol areas of the Texas-Mexican border in search of illegal immigrants.
The recruits were told they'd have to pass a federal background check before they could join up, that once they become members they'll have to be courteous to everyone, to respect property rights, to refrain from littering, to follow instructions from lawmen, to have no contact with suspected illegal immigrants, to not even gesture at them.
Parmley said the group is still trying to work out the question of how to do such things as give water or medical aid to dehydrated immigrants without running afoul of aiding-and-abetting or illegal-detention laws.
The recruits were told that they could not respond to the taunts that are sure to come from outside agitators once the patrols begin.
One of the would-be recruits didn't seem to like the idea of not responding to taunts.
"Are you sure about that?" the man, who was accompanied by a large Boxer dog, hollered at Buelter and Parmley.
"Observe, report and direct the Border Patrol to suspected illegal activity - that's all you do," Buelter told the recruits, whose baseball caps were variously marked: Korean War Veteran, Vietnam Veteran, National Rifle Association, Purple Heart.
Buelter and Parmley stood near a plastic donation jar half-filled with currency, a collection of Minuteman banners on sticks and a cardboard box with Minuteman T-shirts inside.
The chapter officers were asked by one man what he should do if attacked by an illegal.
"Walk away," said Buelter.
"Retreat, retreat, retreat," Parmley added.
"That's gunna be hard to do," the man replied.
The recruits were told they'd be drummed out of the group if they failed to follow procedures or if they violated any laws.
Buelter said only those who are licensed to carry handguns will be allowed to have weapons.
Parmley said the local chapter will join other chapters in four-man teams equipped, if funds are available, with night goggles, radios, video cameras and aerial photos.
He said the group plans to form three lines: the first directly along the border, the second near immigration checkpoints at Sarita, Falfurrias and Laredo; the third on ranchlands, where they'll only go by invitation, to watch roadways for signs of passing illegals.
The Goliad chapter is the first Texas affiliate of the Arizona-based political-action organization, whose stated aim is to focus media attention on illegal immigration and convince federal officials to station military troops along the border to prevent non-Americans from entering the country illegally.
Buelter asked the recruits whether they thought the government was doing its job when it comes to controlling the border.
"Hell, no," several responded.
Greg Bowen is a reporter for the Advocate. Contact him at 361-580-6519 or gbowen@vicad.com.
Hell, no!
I wish these men well.
It all just sort of rolls together.
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"Are you sure about that?" the man, who was accompanied by a large Boxer dog, hollered at Buelter and Parmley."
Hope they rejected him. He has already shown he does not like orders.....too risky to have him. It is going to be a media circus, and the organization does not have to provide the clowns for them.
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32 guards per mile were assigned to patrol the above fence and illegals still streamed through. Inspector General Report
bumping real men!
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Bayourod, you're using a quote from Jamie Gorelick? Are you trying to make a joke, or something?
Where is that wall, sir? What percentage of the southern border looks like you picture, and what percentage looks like mine? Mine was taken this year, when was yours taken? Why do you insist that the borders can't be secured, when average American citizens did just that this year in Cochise County?
Sir, why are you continuing to promote a lie?
Kinda gives you a nice warm feeling knowing that illegals still get through the barriers doesn't it? BTW, how many rapists, murderers and thieves are coming across to "just do the job Americans won't do"?
To be effective, the Minutemen must maintain control. This is why I am not a good candidate for their sort of border watch.
I wish them well.
Men willing to die to feed their children aren't going to be stopped by silly fences.
She is a joke isn't she. And the joke is that she and Janet Reno thought that sealing the border was possible. The Antis today sound just like her.
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"Where is that wall, sir? What percentage of the southern border looks like you picture"
See my profile page for more info, but that fence is part of "Operation Gate Keeper" a 66 mile project begun in 1994 to see if it was even possible to seal the border. It was and still is a failure. The picture is probably ten years old. Today the fences are probably rusted, torn and full of holes going under them. (despite 32 guards per mile) In ten years the fence you build today will probably look the same.
Put your resources into eliminating the demand for illegals instead of silly fences.
Or do you just assume that everyone with brown skin is illegal?
You and I will continue to disagree on the solution, looks like. As a former tagline of mine said, "You can't drain the swamp until after you've sealed the dike."
That there is one of those undeniable truths of life. Like it, hate it, disagree with it, I couldn't care less; but you can't make it go away. It's like bashing your head against a brick wall.
Maybe so.. but its a start..
Some "Bean burners" are too fat to crawl over a high fence..
The fence is also better than throwing several billion down a black hole in Africa..
i.e. Jobs that AMERICANS WANT to do..
Also for propaganda effect.. Siezeing the property of employers that hire illegal insurgents can come later..
It would seem that it is getting that way.....
Is this the project near San Diego that is not yet completed and only recently were funds once again allowed to complete this project. Is it possible that is why they are getting thru because 14 miles of this project are not yet completed?
A nine year old can get over some pretty big fences. I'm waiting to see your design of a fence that can't be breached. You may want to start you research with the Berlin Wall that was breached frequently.
Steel fences rust so maybe you should design yours out of titanium.
Race baiter.
So sad.
Haven't you any new lies?
PS: Ever buy a bullet?
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