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GLAD SHE HAD HER GUN
The Second Amendment Library Online ^ | FR Post 7-05-05 | by Elinor Dufy

Posted on 07/05/2005 10:00:25 AM PDT by vannrox

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To: daviscupper
I guess there are also a lot of places where you can be "legally" dead then. The choice in those places are: To be legally dead, or illegally alive.

I'll take choice #3: Move. Leave the leftist hell holes to the leftists.

21 posted on 07/05/2005 10:34:05 AM PDT by newgeezer (Just my opinion, of course. Your mileage may vary. You have the right to be wrong.)
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To: Spok
Your right, she was only five feet from this criminal. I saw a police training film once where the perp had a knife and the officer was 25 feet away, the perp attacked and had it been real could have cut the officer a dozen times while he was trying to clear leather. These criminals practice knife fighting techniques while in prison this could have turned out bad for her, she should have shot him.

Incidentally, we answered a lot of domestic disturbance calls (Panama)and a lot of the local thieves carried knives. I showed this film to my police officers once and they left the class pretty sober.
22 posted on 07/05/2005 10:41:21 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: vannrox

Good article. She did everything right.

Had she fired, she would have had a whole new set of traumas to deal with.


23 posted on 07/05/2005 10:44:22 AM PDT by Lady Jag (I used to be Sciencediet but I drifted)
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To: Vic3O3; cavtrooper21

Ping for a good read!

Semper Fi


24 posted on 07/05/2005 10:46:53 AM PDT by dd5339 (A sheepdog, a warrior, someone who is walking the hero's path.)
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To: exnavychick

My .02 is that a burglar with an ice pick and a knife is more than just a burglar.


25 posted on 07/05/2005 10:47:53 AM PDT by SIDENET ("You knew the job was dangerous when you took it, Fred")
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To: vannrox

Lennox, Mass?...


26 posted on 07/05/2005 10:48:04 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: vannrox

Bump for a later read.


27 posted on 07/05/2005 10:48:29 AM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: adam_az

"I hope all FReepers are armed."

Not allowed to be...BATFE made sure of that for me and my family...


28 posted on 07/05/2005 10:50:17 AM PDT by MD_Willington_1976
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To: SIDENET

As I said...the dude wasn't offering any resistance. Maybe he had something else on his mind, but was too cowardly to follow through once she pointed her gun at him.

I would have to go with what my gut told me at that particular time. IMO, it's best to pay attention to your instincts, and risk being wrong than to ignore the warning in favor of politeness, or whatever.

If the dude was standing there, unarmed, but I got a weird vibe from him that convinced me that he was going to try to put a hurt on me, I'd probably shoot. If a guy standing there with an ice pick DIDN'T give me that vibe, I wouldn't shoot. FWIW.


29 posted on 07/05/2005 10:55:50 AM PDT by exnavychick (There's too much youth; how about a fountain of smart?)
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To: vannrox
Be not afraid of any man

no matter what his size.

When danger threatens,

call on me,

and I will equalize.

This used to be on the trigger guard of Cold revolvers.

30 posted on 07/05/2005 10:57:21 AM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends.)
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To: Mo1; Howlin; Peach; BeforeISleep; kimmie7; 4integrity; BigSkyFreeper; RandallFlagg; ...

Good story...


31 posted on 07/05/2005 10:57:53 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: vannrox

GOOD STORY~!


32 posted on 07/05/2005 11:00:24 AM PDT by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: vannrox

One comment about the Ice Pick, its used to enhance the perps sexual assult not necessarly to stab her, that is what the knife was for they found......


33 posted on 07/05/2005 11:01:58 AM PDT by jdontom (BacktheBadge)
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To: exnavychick

Very good point....it's the TV syndrome..."stop, or I'll shoot"..good survival rule is if you feel threatened enough to take out the weapon, cock and aim it, then shoot first..apologize later if necessary..especially if the perop's inside your apt with a knife in hand...while the lady may be a crack shot at the range..the first time in a high-stress situation..fear and adrenaline running..she'd be lucky to hit him at 5 feet..and if she was 5 feet away, she was way to close..


34 posted on 07/05/2005 11:02:23 AM PDT by ken5050
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To: CharlieOK1

You are right- I hope she spends as much (or more) activism time telling her story and fighting AGAINST the gun control that would have probably left her dead.


35 posted on 07/05/2005 11:06:18 AM PDT by Mr. K (some days even my lucky rocketship underpants don't help)
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To: Americanexpat
the perp had a knife and the officer was 25 feet away, the perp attacked and had it been real could have cut the officer a dozen times while he was trying to clear leather.

That's called the 21ft rule. A person (bad guy) can theoretically cover 21ft faster than you can draw and fire.

Part 1: Edged Weapon Defense: Is or Was the 21-foot Rule Valid?

PART 2 (Hit print this article to read)

Rethinking the 21 Foot Rule (pdf)

36 posted on 07/05/2005 11:09:22 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: vannrox
She should have employed some "suspect control techniques"--had him raise his hands, get on his knees, cross his ankles, lie down on his face and hold his hands out away from his body and in THIS position wait for police.

More training is a good thing. She was lucky he didn't try to rush her.

37 posted on 07/05/2005 11:11:33 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: vannrox
The Riddle of Steel.

More than just a Hollyweird movie plot device, it is a very real question. The riddle of steel is that the hardest, sharpest, and most skillfully crafted steel is worthless without the will to wield it.

This author had enough will to wield the steel, to refuse to be a victim, but not enough to take another's life. I can't say I would have done the same thing. It isn't a matter of restraint, but the level of violation I would feel about having someone break into my home and threaten my family. I would have had no compunction over ventilating the perp first, then calling the authorities to come clean up.

38 posted on 07/05/2005 11:12:04 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (Never underestimate the will of the downtrodden to lie flatter.)
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To: OXENinFLA

Thanks, I will read it after I pick my son up from school.


39 posted on 07/05/2005 11:12:41 AM PDT by Americanexpat (A strong democracy through citizen oversight.)
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To: Grampa Dave
Guns and dogs = man or womans best friends when both are ready.

Amen, Grampa Dave. My first line of defense are the best dead bolts I could affort on all my doors. My second line of defense is a monitored security system. My third line of defense are my dogs. Up to this point the intruder can walk away with his/her life. My final line of defense is my gun. I will shoot without asking questions and let God sort it out.

40 posted on 07/05/2005 11:14:14 AM PDT by texgal (end no-fault divorce laws return DUE PROCESS & EQUAL PROTECTION to ALL citizens))
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