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Natalee Holloway - Case Discussion Extended Thread 5
Various News Outlets | 7/4/05

Posted on 07/04/2005 6:39:22 PM PDT by TexKat

Mountain Brook High School graduate Natalee Holloway went missing May 30 during a senior trip to Aruba.

AP photo


TOPICS: Heated Discussion
KEYWORDS: aruba; bethholloway; boycottaruba; fubaruba; jossymansur; kalpoes; mariainecroes; natalee; nataleeholloway; rubentrapenberg; vandersloots
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To: pamlet
And that is exactly MY point. Even if we don't agree with the other person, nothing can be ruled out at this point.

It's interesting to debate the different theories. At least for me, it is...:)

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1,741 posted on 07/07/2005 3:36:15 PM PDT by spectre (Spectre's wife (777)
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To: spectre

Me too.

I'm sad that I see people jumping to "troll" so quickly when all you do is disagree.

I have some strong feelings about this - but they're just that FEELINGS - I don't know the "facts" anymore than ANYONE else on this board. And all anyone is going with is their feelings and opinions.

I think everyone should have learned by now when you get emotionally invested in something that is not directly related to you - you can be hurt.. Jennifer Wilbanks is a good example. So many people were totally outraged at her when she showed up... it was surreal to me.


1,742 posted on 07/07/2005 3:42:02 PM PDT by pamlet
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To: grizzfan

You know what I think?

I think they are very frightened people who need to comfort themselves by saying "this could never happen to me" "my judgement is good" "I am responsible".

The truth , that horrible things happen to decent people of good character, people who don't deserve it,,,that truth is hard to accept. We all feel so vulnerable. There but for the grace of God go any of us.

But these insufferable frightened people don't want to join humanity in that vulnerability. They prefer to think they are above our common vulnerability before evil. They are exempt and anyone who gets what Nat probably got is not of their kind.

Have mercy on them when they finally know it isn't like that.

That is just my opinion. I still wanta slap them silly.


1,743 posted on 07/07/2005 4:19:55 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; grizzfan; ...
Natalee Holloway a wòrdu asesiná ? (2)

Latest developments in The Netherlands (Thursday)The Dutch media is reporting that the Aruba prosecutors have appealed a judge's decision to release two brothers jailed on Wednesday and as consequence there will be a court hearing next week Tuesday to see if the Kalpoe brothers will stay free or get detained again. Hasibokos.com also learned that the Aruba prime minister Nelson Oduber wrote a letter to senator Richard Shelby requesting American marines to come to Aruba and search beneath the sea around the island.

1,744 posted on 07/07/2005 4:28:55 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Well, can't we send some of those submarine jobbies to patrol around.

Mighty good of him to invite the marines after the sharks have had six weeks, or is it five, to do their thing.


1,745 posted on 07/07/2005 4:30:27 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: All
This Thread is about

Natalee Holloway

and the case of the missing teen.

1,746 posted on 07/07/2005 4:36:11 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: TexKat

Nice post. Thanks.

Anything new over at SM?


1,747 posted on 07/07/2005 4:47:46 PM PDT by truthluva
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To: the Deejay

bttt


1,748 posted on 07/07/2005 4:48:56 PM PDT by the Deejay (THE LADY DEEJAY)
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To: TexKat

Thx TexKat...such a damn shame...when I see her face, I see the gloating expression of Jurine.


1,749 posted on 07/07/2005 4:51:32 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: TexKat

Every time I lookk at that pic, I feel so sad. Such a lovely lovely girl. And what a daughter to have had as you grow old.

To think that someone has interrrupted her life. It is sad beyond all telling.


1,750 posted on 07/07/2005 4:52:28 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: cajungirl

But to Jurine...just another piece of meat.


1,751 posted on 07/07/2005 4:55:06 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: TexKat

John Merryweather a former Aruba diplomat was one of the participants in last nights demonstration against Beth Holloway Twitty and the American Press. Apparently people are upset that Natalee’s mom is upset. What’s the definition of irony again?

1,752 posted on 07/07/2005 5:04:23 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Dark Skies

with the events in Britain now running dominant interference of everyones attention, I think that the upcoming defense appeal to get JVDS released might be opportunistically successful. :(


1,753 posted on 07/07/2005 5:10:53 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: Andy'smom; sarasota; cyborg; kcvl; maggiefluffs; No Surrender No Retreat; grizzfan; ...

Volunteer members of Texas EquuSearch Melissa Ellis, from Fort Myers, FL, left, and Lyn Parsons, from Largo, FL, search for missing Alabama teen Natalee Holloway around a reservoir in Hooiberg, Aruba, Thursday, July 7, 2005. Holloway disappeared on this Dutch Caribbean Island on May 30. (AP Photo/Ricardo Mazalan)

Aruban Leader Asks Navy to Help Find Girl - Washington Post

By JEFFREY McMURRAY The Associated Press

Thursday, July 7, 2005; 4:05 PM

WASHINGTON -- A Navy dive team that checked the waters off Iraq for explosives before the American invasion could be used in the search for a missing Alabama girl in Aruba, the country's prime minister says.

Prime Minister Nelson Oduber made the request in a letter to Sen. Richard Shelby in response to the Alabama Republican's suggestion that Aruba give the FBI more authority in the search for Natalee Holloway.

In his letter, Oduber says he was made aware of the unit _ known as Naval Special Clearing Team One _ by a Texas dive team that has been helping to look for Holloway.

"I would like to request you to use your influence to gain this authorization for the deployment of this unit free of charge to Aruba as soon as possible," Oduber wrote in the letter, dated July 1.

Shelby forwarded the request to the Pentagon and State departments, but a Navy spokesman, Lt. Herb Josey, said Thursday there had been no formal diplomatic request for use of the team. He also questioned how useful the unit could be, since it specializes in covert exercises such as detecting and de-mining underwater explosives.

"I don't know why this team would be better than any other team, but they obviously have experience working underwater," said Lt. Herb Josey.

In an interview from London, Shelby said he hoped Oduber's request was a genuine bid to help the investigation and not retaliation for his complaints that Aruba's search was insufficient.

"We're not going to stop," Shelby said. "We want a professional investigation of what's going on down there. We're not going to look around and ignore what looks to be not a thorough, perhaps even a shoddy investigation."

Holloway disappeared May 30 in Aruba while celebrating her graduation from high school in Mountain Brook, Ala. Although three young men have been connected with her disappearance, none has been charged.

In Shelby's original letter last week asking for more FBI involvement, he called the Aruban investigation a "dead end."

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On the Net:

FBI: http://www.fbi.gov

Sen. Richard Shelby: http://shelby.senate.gov/

1,754 posted on 07/07/2005 5:12:10 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: Rippersnapper

Sounds to me like your blaming the victim here!! That's low!! According to ALL those who really do KNOW Natalee, she was a very cautious girl. I have no doubt that Natalee was drugged and then "quickly" led into a "taxi"!! I hardly think Natalee was looking for a lit light on the top of the car.


1,755 posted on 07/07/2005 5:17:17 PM PDT by Canadian Outrage (All us Western Canuks should separate from central Canada and join together with Alberta !)
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To: cajungirl
" I still want to slap them silly."

You go girl.

1,756 posted on 07/07/2005 5:20:08 PM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: TexKat

http://shelby.senate.gov/

thanks for his address.....I think I'll write and stroke him for his tough and frank words re the terrorism, and also implore him to keep the pressure on Aruba in an equally public fashion and degree, because the media now seems to be dropping the ball wrt Americas Daughter.


1,757 posted on 07/07/2005 5:20:20 PM PDT by Vn_survivor_67-68
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To: TexKat

Thank You.


1,758 posted on 07/07/2005 5:21:10 PM PDT by MAWG (Diversity is where everyone looks different but thinks the same way.)
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To: Vn_survivor_67-68
Though I still nurse the hope that Nat might be alive...part of me hopes Ralston's sonar finds her remains.

If the world can't have Nat, at least we can put her to rest (for her family's sake). But as regards the scum on that dirty little island...the truth is out and it ain't good. The sad thing is that the little people, the workers like the security guards, will be the ones to suffer. The money laundering and drug transport from S.A. to the U.S. and Europe will line the pockets of the establishment.

Must wait until the next life to find justice. I hope we see Nat there.

Good to hear from you.

1,759 posted on 07/07/2005 5:22:37 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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Tourists talk at the entrance of a shop with a poster asking for information about missing American teen Natalee Holloway displayed on the door in downtown Oranjestad, Wednesday, July 6, 2005. There has been no trace of Holloway, an 18-year-old honors student from Alabama, since she vanished from a high school graduation trip May 30.(AP Photo/Ricardo Mazalan)

**FILE PHOTO** A poster of Natalee Holloway, 18, an Alabama high school graduate who disappeared while she was on a five-day graduation trip to Aruba, is seen on the beach near the Holiday Inn, where Holloway was staying, in Aruba, Monday, June 6, 2005. (AP Photo/Leslie Mazoch)

1,760 posted on 07/07/2005 5:23:40 PM PDT by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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