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Lawrence O'Donnell:"it is Karl Rove who leaked Plame's identity"
The Drudge report ^ | July 1,2005 | Drudge

Posted on 07/01/2005 8:11:15 PM PDT by blogblogginaway

Lawrence O'Donnel on McLaughlin Group: 'I'm probably gonna get pulled into the grand jury for saying this, but it will be revealed in Cooper's notes that it is Karl Rove who leaked Plame's identity'... Developing...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cialeak; crazyodonnel; creepyliar; karlrove; larrythelunatic; leak; odonnel; plane; rove; sitsinthewhbasement; whitelabcoat
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To: blogblogginaway

Friday night,long holiday weekend,justice on the supreme court takes up the entire news day and the focus becomes on how everyone wants to be Bush's friend so they can get dibs on their hopeful nominee, and then oh wait...what is this? Oh yeah...quick..we need a bash Bush story in there...hurry it up...people are gonna be in front of the tv this weekend...zip it up and let's create a new scandal.


101 posted on 07/01/2005 9:42:37 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: woofie

of course it is bullshit...if it were rove they would have leaked the "notes" a year ago....no media covers for a Bushie...


102 posted on 07/01/2005 9:43:32 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache ("Scientology is dangerous stuff,it's like forming a religion based around Johnny Quest and Haji.")
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To: blogblogginaway
Oh man....it'll be really hard to believe this crapola...these dimbos...McDonnell of all people...I mean give me an F..in' break....Kove is a genius...why would he do somethin' that dumb...besides he'd never expose Bush to somethin' like this before the election ... and as others have said on this thread if it was Rove why oh why would the dims not give him up!!!!! much sooner.

It's not as if we have the 'toons' in the WH...with their death squads..running around.

One time I was flying back from DC on SW Airline in the jump seat...I was facing a very well connected Republican Couple...they both leaned over to me and told me that since the 'toons' were in the WH DC had become an extremely dangerous city...to be very careful there and keep my mouth shut...

103 posted on 07/01/2005 9:52:29 PM PDT by shield (The Greatest Scientific Discoveries of the Century Reveal God!!!! by Dr. H. Ross, Astrophysicist)
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To: My Favorite Headache
why would Miller and Cooper risk jail to cover for Rove?

They never did. If it is Rove, the reporters never had any intention of going to jail. It was decided long ago that if the Supreme Court found against them or refused to hear the case, Time Magazine management(not the reporters themselves) would release the notes. This gives the reporters the opportunity to act outraged and claim they would never have revealed the information themselves. Time Magazine and the NY Times drew straws to see who'd hand the notes over to the Court. Time lost.
104 posted on 07/01/2005 10:23:40 PM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: advance_copy

Why would Cooper have to go to jail if he's turned over his notes?


105 posted on 07/01/2005 10:35:29 PM PDT by eddie65
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To: Dave Olson

Didn't Novak say his source was in the "administration"?


106 posted on 07/01/2005 10:35:56 PM PDT by eddie65
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To: jimboster

The only problem with your scenario is that you forget about the money factor. Lawyers aren't free. Those reporters may never have been willing to stick their necks out for Rove, but apparently Time Magazine was apparently willing to spend large sums of money on this case anyway---despite the fact, I might add, that existing Supreme Court precedent was quite clear that these reporters were not protected from contempt charges.


107 posted on 07/01/2005 10:45:52 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: eddie65

He didn't. Time Magazine did. So basically, Cooper never complied.


108 posted on 07/01/2005 10:46:18 PM PDT by mcg1969
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To: mcg1969

The reporters figured if the government went after anybody, it would be Novak. They never expected Novak to do whatever he did to get the government off his back. Once the special prosecutor went after them, Time and the Times had no choice but to fight it- if for no other reason then to hope the Supreme Court would finally decide one way or the other regarding confidentiality protection for the press. The more I think of it, I bet Rove did nothing more than spread the story about Plame after it had already been revealed by Novak. In other words, Rove is not the original source of the leaks and O'Donnell knows it.


109 posted on 07/01/2005 10:57:37 PM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: eddie65

Time Magazine was ordered to turn over the notes. Cooper was ordered to answer questions in the grand jury. He could still go to jail if he doesn't answer the questions.


110 posted on 07/01/2005 10:59:52 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: oceanview

Yep, but can you believe anything they say?


111 posted on 07/01/2005 11:02:53 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: mcg1969; advance_copy

Ah. Thanks.


112 posted on 07/01/2005 11:05:48 PM PDT by eddie65
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To: advance_copy

I'm no expert in journalism, so I don't know the answer, but why would Time have the reporter's notes? Wouldn't the reporter keep the notes himself?


113 posted on 07/01/2005 11:05:58 PM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: jimboster

Fact checking.A reporter would hand over notes for fact checking. Also Times used to (not sure if they still do) have reporters and writers. The reporter would provide the rough story and the writer would write it. This provided for a consistent style throughout the magazine.


114 posted on 07/01/2005 11:08:21 PM PDT by durasell (Friends are so alarming, My lover's never charming...)
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To: Lancey Howard

If it is true, maybe he can just take Cheney's place in an "undisclosed location" until it blows over.


115 posted on 07/01/2005 11:08:36 PM PDT by mamabadger (Recovering Democrat, don't be too hard on me.)
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To: jimboster

The story is "made-for-hire" copyright. Since Time paid Cooper, they own it and all the work associated with it (including the notes).


116 posted on 07/01/2005 11:10:59 PM PDT by advance_copy (Stand for life, or nothing at all)
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To: eddie65
Didn't Novak say his source was in the "administration"?

Nope. Here's a quote I picked up from a Google search that pointed to an article on www.cnn.com: "'Nobody in the Bush administration called me to leak this,' Novak said on 'Crossfire.' 'There is no great crime here.'"

117 posted on 07/01/2005 11:11:19 PM PDT by Dave Olson
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To: blogblogginaway

O'donnel is insane, like howie dean. Insane RATS are allowed to say anything without fear of consequence.


118 posted on 07/01/2005 11:23:48 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: advance_copy

But would any reporter worth his salt actually name his source in the notes? Doesn't the reporter's promise of confidentiality prevent him from revealing the source's identity to anyone- including the editors or publishers of the medium that published it?


119 posted on 07/01/2005 11:25:05 PM PDT by jimboster (Vitajex, whatcha doin' to me)
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To: no dems
Even if this is true, oh well, too bad. W is in office for another term. Let Karl take one for the team. Resign and retire and enjoy life.

If this was true (and I don't think it is - whether you like Rove or not, he's not stupid) - but if it was true, a simple resignation wouldn't occur - he'd do some serious jail time (and rightly so).
120 posted on 07/01/2005 11:40:54 PM PDT by af_vet_rr
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