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What happened to the "Religion of Peace"?
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| River Rat
Posted on 07/01/2005 9:51:48 AM PDT by river rat
Has President Bush finally gotten the message?
In his recent speech at Fort Bragg -- he didn't once attempt to sell the notion that Islam is a "Religion of Peace"...
He described whom we KNOW to be Fundamental Islamics as ---- "Many terrorists who kill innocent men, women, and children on the streets of Baghdad are followers of the same murderous ideology that took the lives of our citizens in New York, in Washington, and Pennsylvania. There is only one course of action against them: to defeat them abroad before they attack us at home."
Am I the only one who noticed that President Bush FINALLY referred to Islam as a "murderous ideology"!!!
OH THE HORROR..... Where is the outrage from the screaming "Arab Street" and their fellow travellers on the Left?
Originally --- our Islamic Lunatic enemy had NO National/Government address we could simply destroy. Now -- it appear our President is refusing to give them a "religion" to hide behind...
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Sorry for the vanity --- I just couldn't resist...
Semper Fi
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posted on
07/01/2005 9:51:48 AM PDT
by
river rat
To: river rat
What happened to the "Religion of Peace"? They forgot to copyright it, and the Quakers bought the rights to the name. :)
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posted on
07/01/2005 9:53:22 AM PDT
by
Tijeras_Slim
(Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
To: river rat
I think your question is out of place. The president used that "religion of peace" phrase within a few weeks of 9/11. But it was so badly received he hasn't used it since, to my knowledge. It's been 3-4 years since that phrase has been used. Correct me if I'm wrong.
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posted on
07/01/2005 9:55:47 AM PDT
by
68skylark
To: river rat
I imagine President Bush "got the message" long before you or I did. He just can't vent on the Internet like we can.
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posted on
07/01/2005 9:58:03 AM PDT
by
Coop
(In memory of a true hero - Pat Tillman)
To: 68skylark
Not sure, but I DO know that a couple of months ago, some advisors told President Bush to NEVER apologise to Islamists.
Sound advice, that. If you do, they will only feel justified and make more demands)
So it Is possible that new policy is being adopted.
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posted on
07/01/2005 9:58:48 AM PDT
by
tiamat
("If some guy named Marduk calls, tell him I'm not home!")
To: 68skylark
You are probably right, but more important is the use of this phrase:
followers of the same murderous ideology He's pretty much calling it a religion of hate.
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posted on
07/01/2005 9:58:50 AM PDT
by
softwarecreator
(Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
To: Tijeras_Slim
For the President to make this change, and come out this strongly --- means "something"....
Words mean things, and these Presidential speech writers are very careful with language....
This speech crossed a divide - that needed to be crossed..
Semper Fi
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posted on
07/01/2005 9:59:01 AM PDT
by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: river rat
Presidential speech writers are very careful Exactly. They fret over every word and it's ramifications ... this was NOT a mistake or something he threw off quickly. It said exactly what he wanted it so say and mean.
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posted on
07/01/2005 10:01:02 AM PDT
by
softwarecreator
(Facts are to liberals as holy water is to vampires)
To: 68skylark
I haven't keep track of how often the President used the "Religion of Peace" gambit - but feel certain it was more than once.....
In my mind -- once was too often.
My main point was -- this is the FIRST occasion I've heard the President use the phrase "Murderous IDEOLOGY" with a direct reference to the Islamic Militants....
THAT is pretty heavy duty language....with a direct tie to Islam.
Semper Fi
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posted on
07/01/2005 10:07:08 AM PDT
by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: river rat
I don't think the president meant to condemn all of Islam with the phrase "murderous ideology." (I think he was referring to the more radical fringes of Islam.) But you're welcome to make any interpretation you like.
To: river rat
All kidding aside, I agree.
I think the "Religion of Peace" line was said in a belief that there are indeed a majority of "moderate Muslims" that could be rallied against the extremists.
As we all know, their silence has been deafening.
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posted on
07/01/2005 10:11:34 AM PDT
by
Tijeras_Slim
(Now that taglines are cool, I refuse to have one.)
To: 68skylark
My last comment included the term "Islamic Militants"... NONE of whom I would consider "Peace loving Muslims">
I never inferred he attacked all Muslims....many of whom are our allies and are dieing in larger numbers that we are..
Semper Fi
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posted on
07/01/2005 10:19:45 AM PDT
by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: river rat
You are putting your words into his mouth. He didn't refer to Islam in general as a "murderous ideology", but was clearly referring to alQ-type jihadism.
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posted on
07/01/2005 10:20:32 AM PDT
by
expatpat
To: river rat
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posted on
07/01/2005 10:21:55 AM PDT
by
petercooper
(Mark Levin for Supreme Court Justice.)
To: river rat
Great catch, and I would've missed it had it not been for you, thanks.
Now I don't think that this will morph into what really needs to be discussed, but it has to start somewhere, and what better place than in front of the troops that are going to be confronting those animals? It's a start.
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posted on
07/01/2005 10:26:21 AM PDT
by
BayouCoyote
(The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices it.)
To: Tijeras_Slim
"Moderate Muslims"
Now THAT is a term I'm still looking to have defined!
Is that the Muslim that hasn't yet pulled the pin on his grenade?
Is that the Muslim looking forward to world domination?
Or is that the Muslim that can live with and in a society of MANY religions and not feel compelled to kill the others?
Semper Fi
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posted on
07/01/2005 10:28:20 AM PDT
by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: expatpat
Read the words.....
He called the terrorists, followers of a MURDEROUS IDEOLOGY...
We all KNOW the terrorists to be militant fundamental Islamic Jihadists...
Where is the confusion?
Semper Fi
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posted on
07/01/2005 10:30:56 AM PDT
by
river rat
(You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
To: river rat
You said:
Am I the only one who noticed that President Bush FINALLY referred to Islam as a "murderous ideology"He didn't. He probably did refer to "militant fundamental Islamic Jihadists" that way, but that's nowhere the same thing. Confusion banished?
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posted on
07/01/2005 10:38:34 AM PDT
by
expatpat
To: river rat
I should add that I do consider Islam to be The Religion of Murder, but that's just my opinion. ;>)
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posted on
07/01/2005 10:43:22 AM PDT
by
expatpat
To: expatpat
He probably did refer to "militant fundamental Islamic Jihadists" that way, but that's nowhere the same thing. Confusion banished?Bingo. Nail on the Head Award for you.
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posted on
07/01/2005 10:45:09 AM PDT
by
highball
("I find that the harder I work, the more luck I seem to have." -- Thomas Jefferson)
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