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Dems' irrational fear doesn't allow them to see clearly - (libs desperate for American Iraq defeat!)
JEWISH WORLD REVIEW.COM ^ | JUNE 29, 2005 | JACK KELLY

Posted on 06/29/2005 6:19:31 PM PDT by CHARLITE

The nationalists want to make a deal with the Americans, while al Qaeda wants to fight on, the UN official told Tavernise.

When the bad guys are shooting each other, it's hard to say the insurgency is worsening, but Democrats are escalating their rhetoric:

Iraq is "a seemingly intractable quagmire," said Sen. Ted Kennedy (D-Mass) at a contentious hearing Thursday.

Disaster in Iraq "is a real possibility," said Sen. Joseph Biden (D-Del) after announcing his intention to run for president.

"There is rising concern that everything seems to be going the wrong way," said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, (D-Cal).

People who've actually been to Iraq recently see things differently:

"To represent the situation in Iraq as a quagmire is a misrepresentation of the facts," the commander of U.S. troops in Iraq, Gen. George Casey, told Kennedy.

"With the exception of periodic flare-ups in isolated corners, our struggle in Iraq as warfare is over," Zinsmeister said. "Egregious acts of terror will continue...But there is now no chance whatever of the U.S. losing this critical guerilla war."

Zinsmeister's declaration of victory is premature. But I suspect the increasingly over the top rhetoric by Democrats is motivated by fear there are only a few months more in which a precipitous American withdrawal from Iraq could lead to a Vietnam-like defeat.

Six months from now, after an Iraqi constitution has been adopted and a permanent government elected under it, and after more Iraqi army and police units have been fielded, it may be too late to prevent an American/Iraqi victory. A year from now, it almost certainly will be.

It is hard to say which is sadder, that Democrats are lost in a Vietnam time warp, or that they regard our abandonment of an ally in 1975 as a precedent to be emulated

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Philosophy; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: criticisms; defeat; democrats; generals; humiliation; iraq; kennedy; military; pelosi; presidentbush; strategy; vietnam; withdrawal

1 posted on 06/29/2005 6:19:32 PM PDT by CHARLITE
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To: CHARLITE
After all the speeches Sheets Byrd and Kennedy gave about Iraq the only way they can save face is for us to lose the battle in Iraq. If Hitlery gets in in 08 you can count on things going haywire in Iraq.
2 posted on 06/29/2005 6:23:06 PM PDT by John Lenin (Liberalism: Where defeat is victory)
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To: CHARLITE
There is a reason they are concerned about our winning over there:

See this:

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Horowitz’s Unholy Alliance, writes John Haynes, the noted historian of American Communism, “is an insightful, brilliant examination of the mental world of the radical left. Horowitz shows how today’s radicals, unwilling to reflect on the internal flaws that destroyed Marxism-Leninism from within, have embraced an all-consuming nihilism in its place. This has led them to a hatred of American institutions and a solidarity with Islamic terrorists that makes the radical left more properly regarded as dangerous than loony.”

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3 posted on 06/29/2005 6:25:42 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: CHARLITE

There's a song from the 70's(?) which goes, "I love you more today then yesterday...but not as much as tomorrow.."(or something to that affect) Anyway substitue "loathe" for "love" & that's how I'm beginning to feel about the Rats.


4 posted on 06/29/2005 6:31:20 PM PDT by CO Gal (Liberals should be seen, but not heard..)
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To: CHARLITE

Disaster is always a possibility in any war. That is why you fight resolutely. You do not whine your way to victory, as the Democrats are attempting to do.


5 posted on 06/29/2005 6:31:29 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: CHARLITE

Can you imagine, if back in 1943, the likes of Boxer, Kennedy, Feinstein and Biden were in Congress, whining about the excessive casualties, and the mistreatment of the "poor" German prisoners at the hands of the American soldier? They would be clamoring for the troops to quit and come home.

I doubt that we would have been victorious.


6 posted on 06/29/2005 6:31:55 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: CHARLITE

The Democrats of today are reminding me of the Democrats in the Union during the Civil War. They are more than willing to put political advantage, and their own comfort, ahead of principle - any principle.


7 posted on 06/29/2005 6:38:30 PM PDT by popdonnelly
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To: CHARLITE

Encouraging report! Read the whole article.


8 posted on 06/29/2005 6:39:46 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which liberalism coheres is that NOTHING actually matters but PR.)
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To: conservatism_IS_compassion; CHARLITE; DRMac
Some good thoughts here:

One Iraq, Two Wars

9 posted on 06/29/2005 6:48:26 PM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (History is soon Forgotten,)
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To: Bobkk47
Can you imagine, if back in 1943, the likes of Boxer, Kennedy, Feinstein and Biden were in Congress, whining about the excessive casualties, and the mistreatment of the "poor" German prisoners at the hands of the American soldier? They would be clamoring for the troops to quit and come home.

Nope. They wouldn't be in Congress for long, and probably would not be residents of the United States of America very long, either.

10 posted on 06/29/2005 6:48:49 PM PDT by Morgan's Raider
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To: CHARLITE
It is hard to say which is sadder, that Democrats are lost in a Vietnam time warp, or that they regard our abandonment of an ally in 1975 as a precedent to be emulated

The latter.

The first they can conceivably be rescued from. The second is an acceptance of a moral deficiency. An inability to distinguish between good and evil. A Conscious decision to turn against this country because in their warped decision process it is for the 'greater good'.

11 posted on 06/29/2005 7:07:10 PM PDT by Soul Seeker
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