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Is Allah God?
netWMD - The War to Mobilize Democracy ^ | June 28, 2005 | Daniel Pipes

Posted on 06/28/2005 12:47:49 PM PDT by forty_years

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To: forty_years

God is by definition beyond definition.


81 posted on 06/28/2005 5:06:53 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
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To: AzaleaCity5691
Actually, the term Jehovah dates back to the Masoretic Jews' translations of the Old Testament (or TaNaKh, as the Jews call it) in the 11-12th centuries. It had nothing to do with "gettin back" at Catholics.

It comes from taking the four consonants of the Tetragrammaton (ancient Hebrew did not use vowels) and superimposing the Masoretic vowel markers for the word "adonai," the Hebrew word for Lord.

82 posted on 06/28/2005 5:06:57 PM PDT by The Grammarian (Postmillenialist Methodist)
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To: Dark Skies

Muslims are forbidden to drink wine.


83 posted on 06/28/2005 5:13:51 PM PDT by Mylo
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To: Mylo; Fred Nerks; USF

Not in paradise.


84 posted on 06/28/2005 5:17:11 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

I could be wrong, but I've seen no reason to think there are mystical supernatural forces.


85 posted on 06/28/2005 5:20:12 PM PDT by G32
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To: Mylo
"But do Jews and Christians worship the same God? A Jew would look at the theology of the trinity, then at their own monotheism and say "no".

To Jews, Jesus isn't God, and they reject Him as such. Christians OTOH look to God in the OT as Jesus...ironic or paradoxical? In any event, if Jesus was correct, Jews who reject him are no more saved than Muslims, since they have to pay for their own sins..which of course they cant.

86 posted on 06/28/2005 5:23:14 PM PDT by Windsong (FighterPilot)
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To: Mylo; Fred Nerks; USF
But I'll make it easy for you..."wine and virgins" means "self-gratification."

It means self...it means greed...Gimme.

It is the language of Shayateen...it is the language of Allah, the moon god. He is a liar and a murderer.

Follow him at your eternal risk.

87 posted on 06/28/2005 5:25:50 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: G32

See #80 above. Tell me what you think.


88 posted on 06/28/2005 5:27:23 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: G32
You seem like a brave person...don't chicken out. Dig deep. If there is nothing there, you have nothing to fear. Be courageous and open-minded. Ask a loving God (if He might exist) to reach out to you...challenge Him...push Him.

What have you got to lose. Listen only to the voice of Good and Love.

Take charge...demand an answer and keep on demanding.

If there is a spirit of Love...He will answer.

He loves you...more than you can imagine (of course I could be wrong...but find out for yourself).

89 posted on 06/28/2005 5:34:10 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

I have asked out. In return I started having epileptic seizures when my life started falling apart a few years.

It eventually go better, but without any supernatural help I can guarantee you. For me, I asked out, and heard nothing back whatsoever.

I believe anyone that 'hears' things like that are suffering from delusional thinking. It appears that our desire to have a god is genetically based, so I really can't say it's abnormal or unexpected that many people do feel supernatural powers.


90 posted on 06/28/2005 5:40:47 PM PDT by G32
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To: G32
Thx...I am bipolar...but I still trust my instincts...and I can imagine that you do too.

It's your business, of course, but what have you got to lose.

You can imagine the reason I might care. It isn't about selling or proselitizing. It is about asking a fellow man to look. Seek it and seek it diligently...if it isn't there, you will learn that.

But if He is there (and He has been for me), your life will kick up so high that you won't even care if you have arms or legs.

I came back from a bad place...nothing worse than depression. Depression is as bad as is needed for you to feel rotten.

Best of luck and much love.

91 posted on 06/28/2005 5:50:55 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Dark Skies

Thanks. I don't belittle people that do find something when they look.. But I did look, and there's nothing to be found for me at least.


92 posted on 06/28/2005 5:52:39 PM PDT by G32
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To: Oberon

"I don't expect you to agree; I simply hope that I have communicated effectively, and that you understand my point."

Well, I, at least, understand that you are not the actual king of the elves. It's disappointing, but I understand it.


93 posted on 06/28/2005 5:53:34 PM PDT by jocon307 (Can we close the border NOW?)
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To: forty_years

Any religion that attempts to establish a world-wide, temporal authority in the name of God is acting in the name of Satan. "My kingdom is not of this world," is what the true God wishes to instill in the hearts and minds of man. A good many understand this, but it is nevertheless a little flock.


94 posted on 06/28/2005 5:58:17 PM PDT by Fester Chugabrew
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To: G32
Don't give up so easily...aren't you a fighter. Kick some butt.

Or are you afraid of the answer? Are you afraid that life might be worth living? You must find out for yourself...it is after all, your life.

Come on...be a man...or a woman.

Stand up for something. Don't lose your life because you are afraid to fight for it.

95 posted on 06/28/2005 5:59:17 PM PDT by Dark Skies
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To: Mad Mammoth

in him all the fullness of the Godhead dwells, bodily.

the muzzies say jesus is NOT god.

Thus allah and jesus are clearly NOT the same god.


96 posted on 06/28/2005 6:09:35 PM PDT by Robert_Paulson2 (I remember when conservative meant, CUTTING the government's POWER and SIZE down.)
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To: Dark Skies; Mylo; Fred Nerks
Re Wine.

I asked a nice imam once to explain the prohibition on alcohol to me, and asked about the wine in islams paradise. He reaffirmed the belief that Allah will be providing them with non-alcoholic wine in those rivers of wine, milk and honey that will run thru the gardens of Allahs celestial whorehouse.

Of course, one of the few ways to guarantee that I would get my "houris" and beautiful young boys would be to become a shaheed, but then, that's exactly how they find other outcasts in their society and get then to "redeem themselves" in allahs eyes...

97 posted on 06/28/2005 7:11:45 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: Dark Skies
Excellent post.

I once had a Muslim ask me (online, on an Islamic forum) how I would feel if I died and then found myself in Islams heaven facing their Allah.

To be honest, if I ever ended up in the same place as their shaheeds, I would know instantly that I would be in hell.

They can keep Allahs temptations and perversions for themselves...

98 posted on 06/28/2005 7:19:55 PM PDT by USF (I see your Jihad and raise you a Crusade ™ © ®)
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To: jocon307
Well, I, at least, understand that you are not the actual king of the elves.

Oddly enough I am a distant cousin of King Oberon, and hold a largely ceremonial position in the Elves' Office of the Exchequer. It causes no end of confusion...misrouted memos, undelivered mail...At one time I nearly changed my name to Puck simply to put an end to it.

Wiser heads prevailed.

99 posted on 06/28/2005 7:24:07 PM PDT by Oberon (What does it take to make government shrink?)
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To: chs68
"Are you suggesting that because I profess belief in the Trinity that I worship more than one God?"

As I understand it, the Trinity is 1 x 1 x 1 = 1. Some would say that the Trinity is 1 + 1 + 1 = 3.

100 posted on 06/28/2005 7:31:15 PM PDT by Eastbound (Jacked out since 3/31/05)
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