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O Canada! Why do you hate Amerika so?
Bucks County Courier Times ^ | 6-28-05 | J.D. Mullane

Posted on 06/28/2005 8:06:39 AM PDT by veronica

Canada, to me, was always that mild-mannered nation to the north, full of friendlies who liked Americans and admired America.

I've been there several times and always felt welcomed.

The streets were scrubbed. The gardens were radiant. The people beamed.

Watching TV at a Toronto hotel bar, I recall seeing a local news broadcast where the street reporters wore matching polo shirts and carried tiny video cameras (which they pointed at themselves) as they rushed about the city delivering news on ribbon cuttings, check passings, dropped candy bar wrappers and such.

"This is paradise," I thought as I lit up a Cuban cigar, which, unlike Toronto, didn't live up to its hype.

But then came teenager Travis Biehn, the Canadian citizen living here in Bucks County.

Cops say Biehn spent the spring plotting to blow up his high school, Central Bucks East.

Since I wrote about Biehn, I've been dogged by a creepy e-mailer with a Canadian Yahoo! address bearing the enigmatic handle "antiamerikan2000@yahoo.com.ca."

A sample:

"When I consume, I now make a conscious effort to minimize my purchase of AmeriKan-made products. When my family travels in the winter, we go to Cuba instead of Florida; in summertime, it's Europe (which pleases my wife as she's European and you folks generally disgust her)."

And this:

"Today, on our way home from work, we were following an old couple from Texas. At every stop I yelled at them, "[Bleep]Bush!" ... a half dozen times at least.

"I yelled loud and, judging by their movements, they indeed heard me. (Every time I screamed, they turned to each other).

"When it came time for us to pass them, I gave them the finger and yelled into their open window, "[Bleep] You Iraqi Children Murderers!"

Here's one from last Thursday, commenting on terrorists killing American soldiers in Iraq: "I suppose you won't be surprised when I tell you that I'm overjoyed every time an AmeriKan Invader is killed by the resistance."

Crackpot stuff, right?

Maybe not. I recall my experience with several Canadian journalists last summer in Boston at the Democratic National Convention.

One afternoon, Michael Moore, the lefty mockumentary director, and Howard Dean, a former Democratic presidential candidate, were on a double bill to speak at a hotel outside of town.

The first five or so rows in the hotel ballroom were media.

Reporters all around me applauded both men. In fact, when Moore finished, some media members joined the ovation.

On the way out, I struck up a conversation with three enthusiastic media applauders. They told me they were covering the event for several Canadian news outfits.

I asked why they applauded. One told me she hated Bush. Another said Americans are warmongers and "jingoistic."

How widespread is this attitude in Canada?

Last year, a survey of Canadian teenagers found 40 percent see America as a force of "evil" in the world. More than 60 percent of French-Canadian teens said the same. (French. It figures.)

I don't know if my e-mailer is French-Canadian. When I asked him to reveal his name, he wouldn't. This is because he owns his own business and many of his accounts are in the United States, he said.

I guess if his clients knew he adores the island paradise of Cuba, shouts obscenities at old folks from Texas and cheers the death of American kids in Iraq, he'd jeopardize all that evil AmeriKan cash he pockets.


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To: Sabatier

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Yeah, instead of boo-ing our Natl. Anthem they could make up funny words to sing. That would be sooo cute.
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41 posted on 06/28/2005 9:25:05 AM PDT by I see my hands
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To: Snowyman

The majority of Candians, just like the majority of Americans, are good, decent people. Canada is plagued with a minority of dimwit liberals as are we. I have always enjoyed my visits in Canada. As I do here in the states, I ignore the idiots.


42 posted on 06/28/2005 9:43:42 AM PDT by MSM Hater ("Ohio must be de-RINOized")
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To: veronica
How twisted these people must be that they feel it necessary to scream repeated obscenities at folks based only on the license plate on their car. Hatred is never healthy.

There are a lot of sick people in this world.

43 posted on 06/28/2005 9:54:31 AM PDT by SaveTheChief (There are 10 types of people -- those who understand binary, and those who don't.)
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To: veronica
As I analyze this article, I see them talking about the lamestream media at the Democratic Convention. Why am I not surprised by them hating Bush and America. Their press is not so different than ours in this respect.

Coverage of a boy trying to get a rise out of American's in America. All I can say is "Puerile". We have young folks like this in our country too.

I'm sorry but I am not buying this reporters premise because of such wimpy proof and IMHO, neither should any of you.

44 posted on 06/28/2005 9:58:51 AM PDT by sr4402
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To: Snowyman
Do you know how many Canadians volunteered and fought in Vietnam?

No I don't. You imply that you do. So tell us already.

After reading the posts here I doubt if any of them would have cared what the US was doing. Certainly not now. Envy has nothing to do with it and humour only goes so far.

I may be the only one one this thread who has absolutely no idea what you are trying to say here, but I doubt it.

45 posted on 06/28/2005 10:46:01 AM PDT by rogue yam
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To: sr4402

I see your point regarding one reporter's take on the situation, however I am from that country, and have watched the relationships deteriorate for years.

It is bad there, it is worse now than it has ever been - and they take it back now to our late entry into WWII - a war which they as members of the Commonwealth and in defense of England, were committed to whether they agreed or not.

Some fools relive the conflict of 1812 teaching their children the U.S. was soundly whipped by the "Canadians" who didn't even exist at the time.

It is deadly serious and whether you believe this one report or not, you should tune into the CBC some days and watch their 'jingositic' hatred of the U.S. spew forth.

Their children are being taught to hate us as well and you know where that leads a country.

There isn't a minority of people who hate the U.S., there is a majority, and the liberal government want to Europeanize Canada - want stronger ties to Europe and unfortunately they are stuck with the nation connected to the south who continues to support their manufacturing, their natural resources, and protects them militarily.

If that is cause for envy and hate....then so be it... it is fact.

Personally if a large impassable wall were erected, I would applaud the effort.


46 posted on 06/28/2005 10:52:53 AM PDT by imintrouble
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To: imintrouble
They make it known to far and wide they completely ignore the U.S. for vacations unless necessary trips for business and family are made.

Actually, I've spent a lot of time in Canada. Anti-Americanism is exagerated, imho. The chattering classes are anti-American, but not anymore than in Boston, San Francisco or London (UK/not ONT). There's a certain mild resentment, nothing too brutal.

I recall a commercial about Canadians on vacation, the highway signs were interstate signs, *not* Canadian. Vacation in the U.S. seems to be almost the default position.

47 posted on 06/28/2005 10:57:06 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: imintrouble
They make it known to far and wide they completely ignore the U.S. for vacations unless necessary trips for business and family are made.

Actually, I've spent a lot of time in Canada. Anti-Americanism is exagerated, imho. The chattering classes are anti-American, but not anymore than in Boston, San Francisco or London (UK/not ONT). There's a certain mild resentment, nothing too brutal.

I recall a commercial about Canadians on vacation, the highway signs were interstate signs, *not* Canadian. Vacation in the U.S. seems to be almost the default position.

48 posted on 06/28/2005 10:57:34 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Deadcheck the embeds first.)
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To: veronica

Kahnada, or rather Toronto is in the grips of leftism much like NY and LA. And Boston. Western Canada, from MB to Alberta is nothing like that. The poor buggers are trapped under a liberal dictatorship, simular to what lefties want to happen here.


49 posted on 06/28/2005 11:13:05 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: veronica

AT the core, I suspect it's the same old thing that's been at the core of countless examples of hatred: JEALOUSY.

MM


50 posted on 06/28/2005 11:14:26 AM PDT by MississippiMan (Americans should not be sacrificed on the altar of political correctness.)
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To: Snowyman
I don't discount Canada's contribution in Vietnam or during WWII. In fact, I generally like Canadians. However, I've noticed a trend with most of the Canadians I have come in contact with over the last 3 or 4 years, particularly a roommate from Ontario whom I had a few years ago: they get particular enjoyment out of pointing out everything that's wrong with the U.S. and Pres. Bush. I honestly don't know why this is the case. Also, they love to generalize about how ignorant the average American is about Canada. My roommate was utterly shocked that I new the Canadian provinces, their capitals, and the current and former prime minister.

I agree with you in that it might not have anything to do with envy, but I do sense a certain level of self-righteousness. As many other posters here have pointed out, it almost seems that they aren't necessarily proud to be Canadian, but that they are proud to not be American. As if being American automatically classifies you as stupid, ignorant, violent, etc., and somehow in constant need of being lectured from others about how you are these very things. I have often wondered if there is some sort of mandatory course in school that provides a step-by-step on how to be condescending to Americans.

I'm not saying that all Canadians are like this, of course, but it has definitely been my experience in most cases.
51 posted on 06/28/2005 11:21:06 AM PDT by VegasBaby
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To: Mase
" The fact that 80% of them live within 100 miles of our border is indicative of just how dependent they are on our economy.

that's not true at all. While they do depend on the economy (and make no mistake, Canada is the biggest supplier of our oil imports, as well as natural gas and metals that we wouldn't be able to drive cars without) that's not the reason that 80% of them live close to the boarder. it's just that it's the warmest spot they can find. Nobody want's to freeeze their arses off living in more northern regions, and getting aten alive by mosquitoes during their short summer.

52 posted on 06/28/2005 11:22:57 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: veronica
The author included the Canadian horse's ass's email: antiamerikan2000@yahoo.com.ca.

Perhaps we should send him some billets doux to show him how much we appreciate him and his country.

53 posted on 06/28/2005 11:27:18 AM PDT by quidnunc (Omnis Gaul delenda est)
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To: rogue yam

About 5000 Canadians joined the US army and voluteered, while a hell of a lot more Americans ran the other way. those are your Canadian "American hating leftists" in Canada today or their offspring.


54 posted on 06/28/2005 11:33:08 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: VegasBaby

I travel for work in Western Canada every week, so I know that's not the attitude it those parts. they have a hostility towards those leftists in Ontario as well, you should hear the talk radio in Canada! They bash those leftist bigots every chance they get. I wouldn't be suprized if western Canada separates over liberal corruption and government monopoly in the next few years. Those lefty's are destroying the country, just like they are here.


55 posted on 06/28/2005 11:39:37 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: VegasBaby
Here's a conservative site ( kinda like a sister site to FR in Canada

http://www.freedominion.ca/phpBB2/portal.php

If you want to get Canadian news and discussion other than the leftist crap from Ontario.

56 posted on 06/28/2005 11:42:51 AM PDT by Nathan Zachary
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To: Nathan Zachary
it's just that it's the warmest spot they can find.

Actually it's arable land that , when farming was the major industry , attracted settlement.. It's found near the border.

The best accepted estimate for volunteers that went to Vietnam from Canada is 34,000 . I've seen some as high as 50k but both figures would include those with American citizenship living in Canada who returned to enlist. Over 100 were killed, at least one received the MoH .

57 posted on 06/28/2005 12:12:57 PM PDT by Snowyman
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To: Nathan Zachary
that's not true at all.

Actually, 90% of their population lives within 160 km of our border.

The World Fact Book

Canada is the most export dependent country in the G8. I believe Canada has become even more dependent on the U.S. since the article linked below was written, with more than 80% of Canada's exports going to the U.S.

Certainly NAFTA has a great deal to do with this but, these numbers further reinforce just how critical trade with the U.S. has become for them.

I understand that this does not prove that they live close to our border for this reason alone. However, I would argue that this kind of dependence makes locating near our border a very good idea.

The Americanization of Canada

58 posted on 06/28/2005 12:20:41 PM PDT by Mase
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To: Mikey_1962

You lived in the Detroit River? Good thing it doesn't freeze in the winter.


59 posted on 06/28/2005 12:20:47 PM PDT by BaBaStooey (Ethiopia: The New Happiest Place on Earth.)
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To: coydog

I feel bad for you. It must be terrible. I felt the same way in New York City, except I bet it's much worse for you as at least my family was not socialist.


60 posted on 06/28/2005 12:32:57 PM PDT by winner3000 (part)
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